Alan Fletcher wrote:

A suspicious observer might say Rossi reduced his promised COP to 6 from 30 to give him an excuse for requiring an input; for why he can't close the loop.


His problem isn't GETTING the COP -- it's CONTROLLING it. It has to be unconditionally stable -- and the original eCAT wasn't doing that.

That is correct. Levi says they saw the cell run for a while with zero input, and it seemed to be dangerously out of control. Rossi confirms that a closed loop cell or a cell powered by anything other than reliable mains electricity is not safe, and it will take some time to engineer a safe version.

People who demand a closed-loop self sustaining demonstration are simply going to have to wait a while. That's all there is to it.

I myself consider this demand absurd. If you do not trust power meters and flow calorimetry, or you do not understand them, you will not appreciate a closed-loop demonstration either.

From 1904 to 1909, the Wright brothers used a large launching derrick to take off. They did that because there was not much wind in Dayton, OH, and what wind they had often shifted. Also because the Wrights launched from a wooden monorail which was a pain in the butt to lay down and move around, so they wanted to keep the launch track short, and take off in a short distance. (See photo here: http://www.thewrightbrothers.org/1904.html). Since the airplane did not take off on its own power during these years, technically, these were not "flights" as defined by aviation experts at the time.

When Orville was preparing to fly in France, on August 8 1908, and the experts arrived early. Some saw the derrick and were outraged, saying this was a circus trick, not a real flight. Orville went on with his careful, methodical preparations, which took hours. The experts' outrage vanished that evening when Orville finally took to the air. They were awestruck. They realized that their objection to the derrick was mere quibbling. The derrick did not detract from the accomplishment at all. It was obvious that the airplane could take off on its own, with wheels instead of a monorails, and a sufficiently long runway. Some naysayers continued to quibble, especially French aviators who wanted to convince the world that they were the first to fly, and the Wrights had not actually flown at all -- technically, at least. Orville eventually got fed up with this nonsense. Toward the end of the year (or in early 1909 -- I don't recall the date) he equipped the airplane with wheels and took off without the derrick. He also flew for an hour continuously at a time when others could barely stagger off the ground in uncontrolled flights.

People today who claim they will not believe cold fusion, and the Rossi device in particular, until it is shown in self-sustaining mode, are being ridiculous. They are as ridiculous as the French aviators who refused to give credit where it is due, even after Orville flew in front of huge crowds for an hour.

Frankly, I suggest you stop this idiotic carping, and accept the fact that calorimetry works.

Also, by the way, people who say that cold fusion is "too hard" or "anyone should be able to do it" should think hard about Orville on August 8, 1908. He spent all day preparing to make one short flight. Tightening wires, looking at the machine from all angles, running up the engine several times, waiting for the wind to be just right. It was as difficult as launching the SpaceShipOne X-prize winner is today. If Orville had made a serious mistake, he would have killed himself. (He did, in fact, make a mistake and he nearly did kill himself in that flight, but only he knew it.)

I can look out my window to the airstrip here at PDK and see people casually walking out to the airstrip, getting into airplanes and taking off a few minutes later. You can do that with a mature technology, after others have done it millions of times. You cannot do it with a newly invented technology such as a cold fusion cell today. People who demand that this be made "easy" or available to anyone at this stage do not understand technology. They have no clue how difficult this is. Conversely, people who say that because it is difficult today, it will always be difficult, are equally misguided.

- Jed

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