[Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, On May 4th, 2012 there will be a an international conference in Turin, Italy, on recent developments and research on nuclear technology, with a focus on LENR. Poster: http://www.22passi.it/downloads/The%20Atom%20Unexplored.pdf Summary: During the last year, many events

Re: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-04-19 11:21, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, I forgot to add that all this information came from 22passi: http://22passi.blogspot.it/2012/04/latomo-inesplorato-torino-4-maggio-2012.html Cheers, S.A.

[Vo]:E-Cat LENR devices will be manufactured in Italy too, according to Rossi

2012-04-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, A new tidbit in the following Italian interview to Andrea Rossi might interest European E-Cat followers, and more in particular Italians: http://www.fantascienza.com/magazine/notizie/16367/e-cat-story-intervista-con-andrea-rossi/ * * * Interviewer: [...] Will the European

[Vo]:Cold Fusion--Fraud...James Randi and Robert Park...hmmmmm

2012-04-19 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L: It was nice to see that the McArthur Foundation had so much money that they could bestow James Randi a Fellowship. Nothing worse than wasting money on good scientific research !!! Randi a good magician ...kept his gay-ness hidden until recently- 2010..is this Great

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion--Fraud...James Randi and Robert Park...hmmmmm

2012-04-19 Thread Daniel Rocha
And your point is...? 2012/4/19 Ron Kita chiralex.k...@gmail.com Greetings Vortex-L: It was nice to see that the McArthur Foundation had so much money that they could bestow James Randi a Fellowship. Nothing worse than wasting money on good scientific research !!! Randi a good

RE: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
Fabulous cover-art image - reminiscent of a Serpinski fractal - Menger sponge. etc. Metaphorical to the Casimir-instigated Ni-H reaction of Roarty, et al. Anyone know the artist? -Original Message- From: Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, I forgot to add that all this

Re: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Akira, I forgot to add that all this information came from 22passi: http://22passi.blogspot.it/2012/04/latomo-inesplorato-torino-4-maggio-2012.html Jones sez: Fabulous cover-art image - reminiscent of a Serpinski fractal - Menger sponge. etc. Metaphorical to the Casimir-instigated

Re: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-19 Thread Vorl Bek
From Akira, I forgot to add that all this information came from 22passi: http://22passi.blogspot.it/2012/04/latomo-inesplorato-torino-4-maggio-2012.html Jones sez: Fabulous cover-art image - reminiscent of a Serpinski fractal - Menger sponge. etc. Metaphorical to the

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion--Fraud...James Randi and Robert Park...hmmmmm

2012-04-19 Thread teampositive
Here is the point: http://www.google.com/url?sa=trct=jq=esrc=ssource=webcd=3ved=0CDEQFjACurl=http%3A%2F%2Flenr-canr.org%2Facrobat%2FMalloveEthepseudos.pdfei=8RKQT87KKajs0gHD1LmeBQusg=AFQjCNEjyhqjKX82ijdEYeO95Nu_HgFLTAsig2=4uBkWtfnxnIS6Kop-dhjYw Daniel Rocha wrote: And your point is...?

Re: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-19 Thread Vorl Bek
From Akira, I forgot to add that all this information came from 22passi: http://22passi.blogspot.it/2012/04/latomo-inesplorato-torino-4-maggio-2012.html Jones sez: Fabulous cover-art image - reminiscent of a Serpinski fractal - Menger sponge. etc. Metaphorical to the

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion--Fraud...James Randi and Robert Park...hmmmmm

2012-04-19 Thread Daniel Rocha
But this is old news... 2012/4/19 teamposit...@gmx.us Here is the point:

Re: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Akira, I forgot to add that all this information came from 22passi: http://22passi.blogspot.it/2012/04/latomo-inesplorato-torino-4-maggio-2012.html ... The link is blocked where I work. I screwed it up. It should be http://www.1proxy.de Both sites are blocked as well. Drat. Regards

Re: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-04-19 15:33, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: Can anyone copy a piccy of the cover-art to a less offensive link? Try this: http://i.imgur.com/zTn9A.jpg I don't like much using image hosting services, however. Most of them have recently started adopting a policy of deleting

Re: [Vo]:International Conference The Atom Unexplored - May 4th, 2012

2012-04-19 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Akira, ... Try this: http://i.imgur.com/zTn9A.jpg Cover Image came through. Thanx. Some of the imagery is in the style of the famous artist: M. C. Escher's work. Vaguely, that is. http://www.mcescher.com/ http://www.mcescher.net/ Escher was way ahead of his time. He created meticulous

RE: [Vo]:Cold Fusion--Fraud...James Randi and Robert Park...hmmmmm

2012-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
Let me answer a criticism to Ron's post. It is not homophobic. It is about living a lie. The point is that blind skepticism, even if it manages to expose nasty con-men (or poor magicians) 99% of the time, can be harmful to society in net results - if the 1% of time is so completely in error -

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion--Fraud...James Randi and Robert Park...hmmmmm

2012-04-19 Thread Xavier Luminous
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 07:01:17AM -0700, Jones Beene wrote: Let me answer a criticism to Ron's post. It is not homophobic. It is about living a lie. http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/swift-blog/914-how-to-say-it.html Not telling others you are gay isn't living a lie, it's just nobody's damn

Re: [Vo]:E-Cat LENR devices will be manufactured in Italy too, according to Rossi

2012-04-19 Thread Xavier Luminous
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:17:10PM +0200, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, A new tidbit in the following Italian interview to Andrea Rossi might interest European E-Cat followers, and more in particular Italians:

RE: [Vo]:Cold Fusion--Fraud...James Randi and Robert Park...hmmmmm

2012-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
You still do not get it, Xavier. The lie is not his personal predilections or sexuality - it is pretending to be an expert in a field in which he has not trained, and completely incompetent. Because he is a magician - he is trained at deceit. IOW he is a trained deceiver (liar) and a master at

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion--Fraud...James Randi and Robert Park...hmmmmm

2012-04-19 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-l I grew up in the Sixties.Live and Let Live. Re: Randi. the man who came out of the closet..should be glad to see cold fusion ..to coin a phrase...See Cold Fusion- Come Out of the Closet. The Cold Fusion Bashers killed the careers of Pons and Fleichman...no prisioners..

Re: [Vo]:New Cantwell PowerPoint slides

2012-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Thanks Akira. Rick is asking some others to send me papers. I think papers are better than PowerPoint slides. I will add a news item pointing to the ICMNS.org slides. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Cold Fusion--Fraud...James Randi and Robert Park...hmmmmm

2012-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Xavier Luminous xavier.lumin...@googlemail.com wrote: Not telling others you are gay isn't living a lie, it's just nobody's damn business but your own. I agree, this is a personal matter. My only objection to T. A. Randi is that he knows nothing about this subject yet he pontificates about it

[Vo]:Sen. Tarr Visits the JET Energy NANOR IAP Demo at the MIT

2012-04-19 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, I found this recent interesting news on Cold Fusion Times (almost by chance, since this is an old-style, single-page static website with no automated RSS or email notifications): http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html April 19, 2012 - Massachusetts Senate Minority Leader Bruce

[Vo]:Wind Turbine Blades Keep Growing

2012-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2012/04/wind-turbine-blades-keep-growing It does not say how long they are, but only that they are 20% longer than they were a few years ago. Anyway, the longer the blade, the larger the cross-section it sweeps, and the more power you

RE: [Vo]:Wind Turbine Blades Keep Growing

2012-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
Another use of wind - http://www.geek.com/articles/geek-cetera/prototype-wind-turbine-condenses-10 00-liters-of-water-a-day-from-desert-air-20120418/ but it makes economic sense mostly in places like Arabia - where water can be worth more than oil... From: Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:It's only chemistry : ISCMNS Workshop presentations

2012-04-19 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:04 PM 4/12/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: One of the papers in http://www.iscmns.org/work10/Abstracts.pdf says it's only water : Control of excess heat production in Pd-impregnated alumina powder O. Dmitriyeva, R. Cantwel, M. McConnel, and G. Moddel A lot of the presentations are now

Re: [Vo]:It's only chemistry : ISCMNS Workshop presentations

2012-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: *Control of excess heat production in Pd-impregnated alumina powder *O. Dmitriyeva, R. Cantwel, M. McConnel, and G. Moddel A lot of the presentations are now available at http://www.iscmns.org/work10/program.htm -- but NOT this one That's one of

Re: [Vo]:Wind Turbine Blades Keep Growing

2012-04-19 Thread Robert Lynn
The larger wind turbines run into a wall with scaling of volume ³ (=mass and cost) vs swept area ² with increasing rotor diameter, so that the economics probably start to get worse at sizes beyond those already in use (apart from perhaps reducing maintenance costs). Makani

Re: [Vo]:It's only chemistry : ISCMNS Workshop presentations

2012-04-19 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:26 AM 4/19/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 12:04 PM 4/12/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: One of the papers in http://www.iscmns.org/work10/Abstracts.pdf says it's only water : Control of excess heat production in Pd-impregnated alumina powder O. Dmitriyeva, R. Cantwel, M. McConnel, and G.

Re: [Vo]:Wind Turbine Blades Keep Growing

2012-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Lynn wrote: So I don't think conventional wind has much of a future near term given incredibly low cost and massive availability of shale gas, and it is that low gas price that is also driving the western move away from nuclear due to lower cost. Beware of low cost solutions that

Re: [Vo]:Sen. Tarr Visits the JET Energy NANOR IAP Demo at the MIT

2012-04-19 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
An:vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:21 Donnerstag, 19.April 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:Sen. Tarr Visits the JET Energy NANOR IAP Demo at the MIT Hello group, I found this recent interesting news on Cold Fusion Times (almost by chance, since this is an old-style, single-page static website with no

RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test

2012-04-19 Thread William Beaty
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: It is also well established that the intent and expectation of the experimenter can influence radioactive decay, so it would be difficult to separate that out from the other possible influences. Since the research community assumes half-lives to

Re: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test

2012-04-19 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 22:12 Donnerstag, 19.April 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test William, I think You touched an important point here. I raised my doubts in other contexts

RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test

2012-04-19 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
I've personally witnessed and done influencing dice throws in craps! The dealers in Las Vegas are quite astounded at the results. Most of the bets are hardways with payouts of about 30:1 . Surprisingly the casinos appear to like this as it brings quite large crowds around the tables.

[Vo]:New edition of A Student’s Guide to Cold Fusion

2012-04-19 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms has written a new edition of A Student’s Guide to Cold Fusion. This is one of our most popular papers, first introduced in 2003. The filename is the same: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEastudentsg.pdf - Jed

[Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-19 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/splitting_the_electron/ Swiss, German physicists split the electron Spin here, orbit there By Richard Chirgwin 19th April 2012 00:01 GMT An international research team has observed an electron being split into two “quasi particles”, one carrying the

[Vo]:What is this?

2012-04-19 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Every time I post to Vortex-l I receive this immediately from Russia: Do you know what it's about? Header follows: Delivered-To: hoyt.stea...@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.118.134 with SMTP id v6csp307779vcq; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.85.230 with SMTP id

RE: [Vo]:What is this?

2012-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
YUP - Yandex is Russian for bot.net (joke) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex They are a Ruskie wannabe version of Google, but instead they indulge in borderline illegality. Your computer could be compromised. -Original Message- From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. Subject: [Vo]:What is

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
Hmmm ... two out of three sounds a bit like Ken Shoulder's EVO ? Ken will probably get a charge out of this story ... g -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/splitting_the_electron/ Spin (giving rise to magnetism) and angular momentum (the path

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Hmmm ... two out of three sounds a bit like Ken Shoulder's EVO ? Charge clusters and Hotson's ideas are s underappreciated. T

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-19 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 02:58 PM 4/19/2012, Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/splitting_the_electron/ But where does the CHARGE go ... either? both? If it were to go ONE way then the other would be chargeless and could maybe enter a proton. Once in, it could call its charged buddy to

Re: [Vo]:What is this?

2012-04-19 Thread William Beaty
On Thu, 19 Apr 2012, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. wrote: Every time I post to Vortex-l I receive this immediately from Russia: Do you know what it's about? Header follows: Delivered-To: hoyt.stea...@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.118.134 with SMTP id v6csp307779vcq; Thu, 19 Apr 2012 14:44:09 -0700

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-19 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Alan J Fletcher Terry Blanton wrote: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/splitting_the_electron/ But where does the CHARGE go ... either? both? If it were to go ONE way then the other would be charge-less and could maybe enter a proton. Once in, it could call