date:20120420

Hi. My version of the Storms paper is 344 kB, compressed with PDF
Converter Professional. The one Ed sent you is 782 kB so you might want to
use mine:

http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEastudentsg.pdf

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Storms paper

Oops. That was supposed to go to Ruby. Anyway, my version is smaller than
the others that are circulating, plus I fixed the page numbers.

- Jed

[Vo]:Papers from Robert Bass

Robert Bass recently sent me several papers. I uploaded 6. There are a few
others pending. See:

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1097

- Jed

RE: [Vo]:Papers from Robert Bass

Amazing that the first paper from 1990 no less, could be relevant to
Rossi/DGT/Ni-H with only a few changes and updates. 

Bass was already thinking about control issues and poor reliability back
then. In retrospect - the solutions are just short of obvious and generic.
Alain recently posted to vortex an updated version: in which Rossi is said
to use MPC - Model Predicting Control - a classic, yet modern method,
adapted to complex, and eventually non linear systems. Apparently working
with Siemens now, as NI has moved to DGT.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_predictive_control

Not only that - this document from Bass probably puts much of this tech,
relative to control issues, into the public domain. 

We should have little doubt that within the last year, patent trolls have
tried to cover it, including Bill Gates' mega-trollers. Too bad for them.


From: Jed Rothwell 

Robert Bass recently sent me several papers. I uploaded 6.
There are a few others pending. See:

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1097 

- Jed



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[Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread fznidarsic

50 nano-meters ..is the magic domain that produces a detectable cold fusion 
reaction 
Jed Rothwell, Infinite Energy, Issue 29, 1999, page 23.




50nm times ir freq = 1 million meters per sec;  Znidarsic's constant.


Frankz

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

Where does the charge go?

Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin and
angular momentum are combined...

-m

_
From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] 
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:19 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron


-Original Message-
From: Alan J Fletcher

Terry Blanton wrote:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/splitting_the_electron/

But where does the CHARGE go ... either? both? If it were to go ONE way then
the other would be charge-less and could maybe enter a proton. Once in, it
could call its charged buddy to come and join it.

(Usual ignorant speculation disclaimer comes here). 

It is a good question, and the buddy system is not far off metaphorically
(as in a condensate). In 1997 we saw the first modern direct evidence that
electric current can be carried by quasiparticles with fractional charge
(Weitzman Inst). But older experiments including those of Robert Millikan
himself, probably saw found this. Here is a good article with relevant
background:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasiparticle

Millikan is regarded by some as one of the founders of American science -
but 
he was also guilty of pathological science, ignoring evidence and fudging
experiments. 
He held-back progress for a half-century on fractional charge, partly
because of an underserved reputation, not to mention the flawed experiment
(he only used about a third of his actual results - the ones where data fit
into the desired outcome). 

An updated, automated (and equally flawed) Millikan-type experiment was
undertaken at SLAC but it was seriously doomed by the assumption that
nothing less than about 15% of the electron charge would be found. And
nothing was found by them. That constraint changed the way the experiment
can be meaningfully run, since - given the ubiquity of the fine structure
constant, they should have designed a wide range experiment that would at
least look for charge as low as e/137.

The results of the many experiments agree with a theory which was formulated
by Robert 
Laughlin to explain the fractional quantum Hall effect FQHE. According to
Laughlin, 
electrons in strong magnetic fields form an exotic collective state, similar
to 
the BEC state. This does not rule out Shoulder's claims.

But any BEC-like agglomeration of electrons, although it may fit in with the
experimental work of Ken Shoulders, will need to hide charge somewhere.
Where? You ask.

The sea, of course. 

Dirac's sea. Probably located just around the corner in reciprocal space
g

Jones

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Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread David Roberson


It is an excellent idea to think out of the box Mark as in this case.  Keep 
your ideas coming!

Dave

-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 1:14 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron


Where does the charge go?
Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin and
ngular momentum are combined...
-m

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

SEE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(physics)



On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote:

 Where does the charge go?

 Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin and
 angular momentum are combined...

 -m

 _
 From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net]
 Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:19 PM
 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron


 -Original Message-
 From: Alan J Fletcher

 Terry Blanton wrote:
 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/splitting_the_electron/

 But where does the CHARGE go ... either? both? If it were to go ONE way
 then
 the other would be charge-less and could maybe enter a proton. Once in, it
 could call its charged buddy to come and join it.

 (Usual ignorant speculation disclaimer comes here).

 It is a good question, and the buddy system is not far off metaphorically
 (as in a condensate). In 1997 we saw the first modern direct evidence
 that
 electric current can be carried by quasiparticles with fractional charge
 (Weitzman Inst). But older experiments including those of Robert Millikan
 himself, probably saw found this. Here is a good article with relevant
 background:

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quasiparticle

 Millikan is regarded by some as one of the founders of American science -
 but
 he was also guilty of pathological science, ignoring evidence and fudging
 experiments.
 He held-back progress for a half-century on fractional charge, partly
 because of an underserved reputation, not to mention the flawed experiment
 (he only used about a third of his actual results - the ones where data fit
 into the desired outcome).

 An updated, automated (and equally flawed) Millikan-type experiment was
 undertaken at SLAC but it was seriously doomed by the assumption that
 nothing less than about 15% of the electron charge would be found. And
 nothing was found by them. That constraint changed the way the experiment
 can be meaningfully run, since - given the ubiquity of the fine structure
 constant, they should have designed a wide range experiment that would at
 least look for charge as low as e/137.

 The results of the many experiments agree with a theory which was
 formulated
 by Robert
 Laughlin to explain the fractional quantum Hall effect FQHE. According to
 Laughlin,
 electrons in strong magnetic fields form an exotic collective state,
 similar
 to
 the BEC state. This does not rule out Shoulder's claims.

 But any BEC-like agglomeration of electrons, although it may fit in with
 the
 experimental work of Ken Shoulders, will need to hide charge somewhere.
 Where? You ask.

 The sea, of course.

 Dirac's sea. Probably located just around the corner in reciprocal space
 g

 Jones

[Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion

2012-04-20 Thread Harry Veeder

Sterlling Allan interviews Brilliuon Energy.
At 39 minutes  someone says CBS is talking to Mckubre about following
up their 2009 story on cold fusion .

http://www.mevio.com/episode/313695/fen.120417

Harry

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Alan J Fletcher



At 10:28 AM 4/20/2012, Axil Axil wrote:
SEE 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(physics)
Thanks ... and Nature now has an abstract

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature10974.html#/contrib-auth

and an article:

http://www.nature.com/news/not-quite-so-elementary-my-dear-electron-1.10471

Re: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion

2012-04-20 Thread Harry Veeder

actually its closer to 37 minute mark.

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:
 Sterlling Allan interviews Brilliuon Energy.
 At 39 minutes  someone says CBS is talking to Mckubre about following
 up their 2009 story on cold fusion .

 http://www.mevio.com/episode/313695/fen.120417

 Harry

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

Thanks Dave. I even have a hat that has the phrase, Think outside the Box!

 

I've haven't been able to contribute to the idea-tossing within the
Collective for awhile because I've been busy with discussions/presentations
with an investment group for our technology to do noninvasive (painless)
glucose measurement for diabetics.  So far, I've presented the technical
evidence three times, the latest to the CTO, so we're making it up the
decision-maker hierarchy.  Wish us me luck!

 

We have been working quietly for the last two years, but are preparing to
make our results more widely known. to that end, I have begun to put
together a website with some details and no frills nor advertisements. I'd
appreciate some feedback on the site as to whether the information is
succinct and understandable. does it communicate the results to the reader
in an understandable manner?

 

http://webpages.charter.net/markiverson/index.htm

 

Thanks,

-Mark

 

From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 10:20 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

 

It is an excellent idea to think out of the box Mark as in this case.
Keep your ideas coming!

 

Dave

-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 1:14 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

Where does the charge go?
 
Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin and
angular momentum are combined...
 
-m

Re: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test

2012-04-20 Thread Guenter Wildgruber






 Von: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt.stea...@gmail.com
An: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Gesendet: 23:41 Donnerstag, 19.April 2012
Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test
 

Hoyt, 
You probably know John Walker, the founder of autodesk.
He seems to be an interesting person, capable of thinking outside the box.
On his website You can find eg  his 'Introduction to Probability and
Statistics'.

See here:
http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/statistics.html

He is quite open to topics like reversal of time and psychokinesis.
Not that I would endorse that. 

I just try to keep an open mind, and not refuse that by some definition, whose 
foundations are equally dubious.


These topics have a lot of similarity to LENR wrt acceptance.
They do not fit into the dominant narrative.
The Princeton-group was eliminated, because the dominant narrative classified
them as quacks.
see: http://skepdic.com/pear.html

A couple of years ago I did a -just for fun- analysis of the outcomes of
lottery numbers in German  lottery over some 30 years.
the numbers are 1..49, 

Drawings: 1 per week, later 2.
So there were some 2000 drawings in total.

The numbers should smooth out. 
Right?
Every
student of statistics, computing the result of 2000 drawings , should be quite
content with the significance.
Number of samples, gaussian distribution, ergodicity, etc.


The numbers do, in a sense, obey the 'laws', but what astonished me, was that 
the number '13' was drawn
significantly LESS than the expected value.
As far as I can remember, it was about 1:1000 chance for any number to be drawn
with such a low probability.
'13' is not a 'lucky'  number in the german context.
And if you have 49 numbers, the chance that one of them falls below 1:1000, is 
not THAT impossible.

This is one of the reasons why I do not discard the 'Princeton' findings 
altogether. 


Re
intercultural comparability: This is difficult, because I have no idea what the
mental force is, to reject negative / enforce positive numbers.
Its significance
is quite different with cultures. those who are quite neutral re ‘13’, and
those who have other ‘negative’
There are no data to study this interculturally, eg the Mexican, the US,  the 
Spanish, who all seem to be crazy betters,
but onto different targets.
So we have NO good database here.
Such  is the situation.

Germans are bean-counters in a sense, which seems -in this case- to have some
positive aspect. ;)

My conclusion at that time, when I investigated this, was:
that there  is something worth investigating,  but  I
lacked the time and resources to really go to the bottom of the issue.

I have some hope,  that the Net could make
a difference, to really find out what is going on here.


a)    Akin
to the LENR-field, there are some other fields, which could profit from
good-mannered crowd- intelligence,
b)   or as an opposite: dissident-
intelligence,
c)    Which
are in a sort of a fight, where common belief and individual ingenuity battle
each other.

OK?
Just a bold theory.
 
(Just as a
sidenote:  there is a similarly strange
effect, which is the 1/f noise. Mandelbrodt, among others, pondered that, but 
with
no conclusion.1/f noise is somewhat similar to the idea of fractals, but is not 
mathematical,
but physical in its own sense, in that there are mathematical equivalents to
that, like the distribution of prime numbers, BUT ‘nature ‘ produces  different 
sorts of 1/f noises, which cannot be
mapped onto mathematical equivalents.)
 
anyway,
best regards,
and sorry for the log post,

Guenter

--

I've 
personally witnessed and done influencing dice throws in craps!  The 
dealers in Las Vegas are quite astounded at the results.  Most of the bets 
are hardways with payouts of about 30:1 .   Surprisingly the casinos 
appear to like this as it brings quite large crowds around the 
tables.
 
http://www.synccreation.com/vegas-adventure
-Original Message-
From: Guenter Wildgruber  [mailto:gwildgru...@ymail.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:52  PM

 
 
... Radioactive decay is assumed to be pure  random.
So much that it even is used as THE source of pure randomness, 
  ie,THE ideal random-number generator.
I always doubtet that.
There are 
  some hints, that our conceptions of randomness, which in the mathematical 
  domain eg are gaussian distributions and ergodicity, do NOT apply to the REAL 
  world. 
Only to such artificial  constructions as throwing dice.
Which are, if You think about  it, are mental constructions, and as such 
collapse to tautologies. ...

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Terry Blanton

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
 Where does the charge go?

 Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin and
 angular momentum are combined...

The article speaks about orbital momentum.

T

Re: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion

2012-04-20 Thread Guenter Wildgruber






 Von: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Gesendet: 19:34 Freitag, 20.April 2012
Betreff: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion
 
This is one of Allans better takes, it seems to me.

Question:
Why is Brilloin/Godes not able to collect a meager 5million? (I asked this 
already).
Whereas Rossi claims to have enough capital to build two plants?
From the paper-evidence it seems that Brillouin has the better technology and 
theory.
And there are some heavy-hitters on the Brilloiun advisory board.

But Rossi acquired ca 50x the capital Brillouin would need to reach 
breakthrough!?

Strange that.

What does money talk?
(usually lots of nonesense, to be sure)
--
Sterlling Allan interviews Brillouin Energy.
At 39 minutes  someone says CBS is talking to Mckubre about following
up their 2009 story on cold fusion .

http://www.mevio.com/episode/313695/fen.120417

Harry

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

Aren't angular momentum and orbital momentum are the same thing?
-m

-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:41 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net
wrote:
 Where does the charge go?

 Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin 
 and angular momentum are combined...

The article speaks about orbital momentum.

T

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

I wonder if electron based quasiparticles can be involved or even causative
in the cold fusion mechanism.

In physics, fractionalization is the phenomenon whereby the quasiparticles
of a system cannot be constructed as combinations of its elementary
constituents. One of the earliest and most prominent examples is the
fractional quantum Hall effect, where the constituent particles are
electrons but the quasiparticles carry fractions of the electron charge.

Fractionalization can be understood as deconfinement of quasiparticles that
together are viewed as comprising the elementary constituents. In the case
of spin–charge separation, for example, the electron can be viewed as a
bound state of a 'spinon’ and a 'chargon', which under certain conditions
can become free to move separately.

The Mills cold fusion mechanism shows indications of fractionalization of
the orbiton/holon, the orbital quasiparticle component of the electrons
quantum properties.

This fractionalization may be indicative of spin change separation as
important and active in the cold fusion mechanism.

Spin–charge separation is one of the most unusual manifestations of the
concept of quasiparticles. This property is counterintuitive, because
neither the spinon, with zero charge and spin half, or the chargon, with
charge minus one and zero spin, can be constructed as combinations of the
electrons, holes, phonons and photons that are the constituents of the
system.

It is an example of fractionalization, the phenomenon in which the quantum
numbers of the quasiparticles are not multiples of those of the elementary
particles, but fractions.

Since the original electrons in the system are fermions, one of the spinon
and chargon has to be a fermion, and the other one has to be a boson. One
is theoretically free to make the assignment in either way, and no
observable quantity can depend on this choice. The formalism with bosonic
chargon and fermionic spinion is usually referred to as the slave–fermion
formalism.

If chargon is a boson, it could support a condensate that enables a charge
accumulation mechanism whereby the large negative electric charge localized
is a small volume can remove the coulomb barrier to allow fusion to occur.

Mileys observations of superconductive behavior of pockets of hydrogen ions
may also be other indications of some sort of quasiparticle
fractionalization at work.





On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/splitting_the_electron/

 Swiss, German physicists split the electron

 Spin here, orbit there
 By Richard Chirgwin

 19th April 2012 00:01 GMT

 An international research team has observed an electron being split
 into two “quasi particles”, one carrying the original particle’s spin,
 the other carrying its orbital movement.

 Spin (giving rise to magnetism) and angular momentum (the path the
 electron follows around the nucleus of an atom) are two out of the
 electron’s three quantum properties (the other is charge). These
 properties attach to a single electron – unless, it seems, you pump
 the right substance with the right amount of energy.

 more

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread David Roberson


Does the statement that no observable quantity can depend upon the assignment 
suggest the multi-universe theory?  In that case the spinon and chargon types 
would be one choice in one universe and the second choice appearing within the 
other.  Our observation would reveal which universe we happen to be within at 
that point in time.

I personally have strong reservations regarding the existence of multiverses 
but it is certainly an interesting subject.  Why would the particles care about 
our observation?   If the concern is that the process of observing causes 
change due to coupling (such as by photon interaction), then at least there is 
a physical operation associated with the problem.  My suspicion is that one day 
we will understand the reason for the paradox and it will no longer be an issue.
  
Dave



-Original Message-
From: Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 3:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron


[...snip]

Since the original electrons in the system are fermions, one of the spinon and 
chargon has to be a fermion, and the other one has to be a boson. One is 
theoretically free to make the assignment in either way, and no observable 
quantity can depend on this choice. The formalism with bosonic chargon and 
fermionic spinion is usually referred to as the slave–fermion formalism.

.

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Terry Blanton

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:14 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote:
 Aren't angular momentum and orbital momentum are the same thing?

Well, technically no since there is spin angular momentum and orbital
angular momentum.  I was simply clarifying what it meant to separate
spin from the orbital momentum.

T

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread integral.property.serv...@gmail.com


Mark,

Perhaps adding references to your web page such as : 
http://photonicssociety.org/newsletters/apr98/overview.htm
may allow a viewer to grasp the complexity and and importance of your 
efforts.


Warm Regards,

Reliable

MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:


Thanks Dave… I even have a hat that has the phrase, “Think outside the 
Box”!


I’ve haven’t been able to contribute to the idea-tossing within the 
Collective for awhile because I’ve been busy with 
discussions/presentations with an investment group for our technology 
to do noninvasive (painless) glucose measurement for diabetics. So 
far, I’ve presented the technical evidence three times, the latest to 
the CTO, so we’re making it up the decision-maker hierarchy. Wish us 
me luck!


We have been working quietly for the last two years, but are preparing 
to make our results more widely known… to that end, I have begun to 
put together a website with some details and no frills nor 
advertisements… I’d appreciate some feedback on the site as to whether 
the information is succinct and understandable… does it communicate 
the results to the reader in an understandable manner?


http://webpages.charter.net/markiverson/index.htm

Thanks,

-Mark

*From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
*Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2012 10:20 AM
*To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
*Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

It is an excellent idea to think out of the box Mark as in this 
case. Keep your ideas coming!


Dave

-Original Message-
From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net 
mailto:zeropo...@charter.net

To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 1:14 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

Where does the charge go?
 
Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin and

angular momentum are combined...
 
-m

RE: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion

I think it is a cultural difference. 

 

Rossi insinuates having 50 mill, yet is essentially bankrupt.

 

Brillouin claims to need 5 mill, when they already have 5 and want 25.

 

 

 

From: Guenter Wildgruber 


Question:
Why is Brilloin/Godes not able to collect a meager 5million? (I asked this
already).
Whereas Rossi claims to have enough capital to build two plants?
From the paper-evidence it seems that Brillouin has the better technology
and theory.
And there are some heavy-hitters on the Brilloiun advisory board.

But Rossi acquired ca 50x the capital Brillouin would need to reach
breakthrough!?

Strange that.

What does money talk?
(usually lots of nonesense, to be sure)
--

RE: [Vo]:bass and jed

Interesting.  45.6nm is also ? the Rydberg wavelength and the natural unit
of length in Dewey Larson's Reciprocal System of physics.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US


 -Original Message-
From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 9:37 AM
To: fznidar...@aol.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:bass and jed


  50 nano-meters ..is the magic domain that produces a detectable cold
fusion reaction
  Jed Rothwell, Infinite Energy, Issue 29, 1999, page 23.




  50nm times ir freq = 1 million meters per sec;  Znidarsic's constant.


  Frankz

Re: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion

2012-04-20 Thread Guenter Wildgruber






 Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Gesendet: 22:19 Freitag, 20.April 2012
Betreff: RE: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion
 
Jones,
 for some fun see here:

In
memoriam: After years of health problems, Facts has finally died.
...

Poovey, however, who knew Facts as well as anyone,
said Facts' demise is undoubtedly factual.
American society has lost confidence that
there's a single alternative, she said. Anybody can express an
opinion on a blog or any other outlet and there's no system of verification or
double-checking, you just say whatever you want to and it gets magnified. It's
just kind of a bizarre world in which one person's opinion counts as much as
anybody else's.

Facts is survived by two brothers, Rumor and Innuendo,
and a sister, Emphatic Assertion.
...

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-04-19/news/ct-talk-huppke-obit-facts-20120419_1_facts-philosopher-opinion
-

 
I think it is a cultural
difference. 
 
Rossi insinuates having 50
mill, yet is essentially bankrupt.
 
Brillouin claims to need 5
mill, when they already have 5 and want 25.

RE: [Vo]:bass and jed

The Rydberg wavelength is a natural unit in all physics, given that hydrogen
is 90% of the known universe. Nothing novel there.

The problem - in making any sense out of Frank's constant is that (as he
well knows) IR light is not a single frequency, nor even a characteristic
frequency, but instead has a wide range of approximately 1 to 400 THz.

If we were to use an average of 200 THz to be IR frequency then he could
make an interesting prediction at 50 nm, but what about the fact that the
trigger temperature in Ni-H is nowhere close to 200 THz. 

Oops... oh well... let's let an Alien Scientist try to rationalize or
gloss-over that little problem ?

Thus, the mild skepticism that megahertz-meter is anything more than a
maybe at best, or a dart throw at worst...

I like Frank, and his perseverance - and hope he is right, since it would be
useful if correct - but there are too many lose ends here to get
enthusiastic or even to use this value to design a meaningful experiment
around.


From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. 

Interesting.  45.6nm is also ½ the Rydberg wavelength and
the natural unit of length in Dewey Larson's Reciprocal System of physics.
  
 
 -Original Message-
From: fznidar...@aol.com 
50 nano-meters ..is the magic domain that produces a
detectable cold fusion reaction 
Jed Rothwell, Infinite Energy, Issue 29, 1999, page 23. 


50nm times ir freq = 1 million meters per sec;  Znidarsic's
constant.

Frankz
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RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test

I don't know John Walker, but I posted his studies on editing the past 
previously. I didn't know he founded autodesk.

There's a famous example supporting the concept of multiple pasts regarding 
Nelson Mandela. Some people have evidence and believe that he died in prison ( 
newspaper articles, etc. as I recall) and others say he's still alive ( other 
articles ).  A collison of probable pasts. I think this happens quite often but 
is ignored.
It does create hostilities and war because each side is convinced and can 
prove that the other side is completely wrong.

That's interesting about the lottery.  A few years ago I did a year long study 
for my own satisfaction by buying a ticket every week and choosing the numbers 
using map dowsing i.e. picking the numbers that a pencil naturally tended to 
seek on the forms.  There was a 1:37 chance of winning something, but over the 
year I won 1:5!
(Not much money, but it proved the point to me ).  Another effect was that on 
some occasions, the winning numbers were shifted up/down/left/right one space 
on the form.

Hoyt Stearns
Scottsdale, Arizona US
  -Original Message-
  From: Guenter Wildgruber [mailto:gwildgru...@ymail.com]
  Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:23 AM
  To: hoyt.stea...@gmail.com; Vortex
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test







--
  Von: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt.stea...@gmail.com
  An: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Gesendet: 23:41 Donnerstag, 19.April 2012
  Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test



  Hoyt, 
  You probably know John Walker, the founder of autodesk.
  He seems to be an interesting person, capable of thinking outside the box.
  On his website You can find eg  his 'Introduction to Probability and 
Statistics'.

  See here:
  http://www.fourmilab.ch/rpkp/experiments/statistics.html
   ...

[Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

2012-04-20 Thread Michele Comitini

Hello vortex-l,

Not to be seen before 2020.

IBM speeds push for 500-mile EV battery - CNET News
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57417588-76/ibm-speeds-push-for-500-mile-ev-battery/


mic

[Vo]:Remote viewing conference

These are always fun to attend:

Our speaker line up is complete for the IRVA 2012 anniversary conference,
and we are honored to announce Christopher (Kit) Green, MD, PhD, as our
keynote speaker. Dr. Green is a former analyst at the CIA's Office of
Scientific and Weapons Intelligence, and the CIA contract monitor assigned
to the Stanford Research Institute project. He worked closely with Hal
Puthoff, Ingo Swann, Pat Price and Russell Targ at SRI.

Topics to be explored by IRVA speakers will include the history of remote
viewing, remote viewing in the future, alternative training, improving
skills, law enforcement cases, and more.

IRVA Speaker List

- Marsha Adams, SRI International RV researcher and trainee
- F. Holmes (Skip) Atwater, The Monroe Institute
- Courtney Brown, Ph.D., President, The Farsight Institute
- Leonard (Lyn) Buchanan, President, ProblemsSolutionsInnovations
- Jim Channon, President, First Earth Battalion
- Pam Coronado, Intuitive Investigation
- Tom McNear, Star Gate Member
- Melvin Morse, M.D., Spiritual Scientific: Academia Without Walls
- Marty Rosenblatt, President, Physics-Intuition-Applications
- Angela Thompson Smith, Ph.D., President, Mindwise Consulting
- Paul H. Smith, Ph.D., President, Remote Viewing Instructional Services,
Inc.
- Russell Targ, espresearch.com
- Lance Beem  Debra Katz, 2011 Warcollier Prize Winners
- Glenn B. Wheaton, Co-Founder and President, Hawaii Remote Viewers' Guild
- Lori Williams, Controlled Remote Viewing Instruction and Services

For more information, please visit http://www.irvaconference.org

Re: [Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

2012-04-20 Thread Akira Shirakawa


On 2012-04-20 23:42, Michele Comitini wrote:

Not to be seen before 2020.

IBM speeds push for 500-mile EV battery - CNET News
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57417588-76/ibm-speeds-push-for-500-mile-ev-battery/


How much time will it take to recharge these batteries? With energy 
coming from what energy sources? How are national power grids going to 
cope with the load of millions of EVs requiring dozens of kilowatts of 
electrical power to get fully recharged in a practical amount of time?


Battery capacity (= car range) is a serious issue for electric cars in 
the short term, but unfortunately, not the only one in the medium to 
long term.


Cheers,
S.A.

RE: [Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

2012-04-20 Thread Mark Goldes

See the Aqueous Fuel Cell invented in Vietnam for a solution. Someone posted it 
here a few months ago.

Moving Beyond Oil and Cheap Green, on the Aesop Institute website, both contain 
a few details.

The only fuel is fresh or salt water. A 2 kW home generator is moving toward 
the market, priced at $1,600.

It is later intended to power vehicles.

Mark

Mark Goldes
Co-founder, Chava Energy
CEO, Aesop Institute
301A North Main Street
Sebastopol, CA 95472

www.chavaenergy.com
www.aesopinstitute.org

707 861-9070
707 497-3551 fax

From: Akira Shirakawa [shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 3:19 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

On 2012-04-20 23:42, Michele Comitini wrote:
 Not to be seen before 2020.

 IBM speeds push for 500-mile EV battery - CNET News
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57417588-76/ibm-speeds-push-for-500-mile-ev-battery/

How much time will it take to recharge these batteries? With energy
coming from what energy sources? How are national power grids going to
cope with the load of millions of EVs requiring dozens of kilowatts of
electrical power to get fully recharged in a practical amount of time?

Battery capacity (= car range) is a serious issue for electric cars in
the short term, but unfortunately, not the only one in the medium to
long term.

Cheers,
S.A.

[Vo]:Chad Schaffer pleads guilty in Mallove murder trial

2012-04-20 Thread Dr. Mitchell Swartz

*THE GOOD, THE BAD, and THE UGLY
* April 20, 2012
At last, Chad Schaffer has pled guilty today to the brutal
execution murder of our friend and colleague, Dr. Eugene Mallove. I
spoke with
Gene by telephone on his last day. We were in the middle of a
cold fusion experiment which produced excess energy. The data is up

at the Cold Fusion Times Website. http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html
If Gene had lived, the development and integration of cold
fusion would be far ahead of where it is today. America and the rest of
the
world have suffered, and will continue to, because of the
coverup called Heavywatergate -- and the murder of Eugene Mallove..
Gene often reminded me, Ad astra per aspera. May some
peace finally begin to come to Gene and his family.

Mitchell Swartz

*
===

Chad Schaffer pleads guilty in Mallove murder trial*
Greg Smith
http://www.norwichbulletin.com/news/x1364620539/Schaffer-accepts-plea-deal-in-Mallove-murder-trial#axzz1scKOQ8CV
NorwichBulletin.com - April 20, 2012 - A murder trial in Norwich was
abruptly halted today when Chad Schaffer of Norwich entered a guilty
plea to
the charges of first-degree manslaughter and accessory to robbery in
connection with the 2004 beating death of 56-year-old Eugene Mallove. As
part of
a plea agreement reached with the prosecution, Schaffer is to serve a
total of 16 years in prison --- a disheartening number for members of
the Mallove
family who have been attending the trial. ... Schaffer had faced a
possible 60 years in prison if convicted by the jury. This is not
justice, said a tearful
Rebecca Woodard, sister to Ethan Mallove's sister's husband. This
sentence doesn't come close to righting this wrong.

*Witness: Boyfriend forced me to help kill Mallove*
Apr 18, 2012 - A key witness for the prosecution, Foster took the stand
Wednesday in the ongoing murder trial of her former boyfriend, Chad
Schaffer,
34, of Norwich. Both are charged with murder in Mallove's May 14, 2004,
death, but she is hoping for leniency in exchange for her testimony. She
maintains Schaffer and his cousin, Mozzelle Brown, beat Mallove and
returned with her to the scene so she could drive Mallove's van and help
make the
incident look like a robbery. Foster said she arrived to find Mallove
facedown on the ground. There was blood coming out of his mouth, she
said.
Did he say anything? asked prosecutor Paul Narducci. 'Help me,'
Foster said.
Did you? Narducci asked. No, she said While Schaffer and
Brown continued to beat Mallove, Foster said, Schaffer smacked her in
the face to
get her to participate. Foster, 32, and Schaffer are Mallove's former
tenants.

=
More, and more links, at the *Cold Fusion Times Website*.
http://world.std.com/~mica/cft.html

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

Hi Reliable,
Thx for the feedback...

I understand the suggestion and the link to an example... I have hundreds of
peer-reviewed and other literature on noninvasive glucose,
bioelectromagnetics, the effects of poor glucose control on a person's
biology, etc...

The history of noninvasive glucose is quite interesting (and frustrating for
me)... The paper you linked to is all about optical technologies. Over the
last 30 years, well over a billion dollars, and probably closer to $2B or
$3B, has been put into the field, and 95% of that has been for optical
(mostly near-IR) based technologies.  We are using RF and microwave
frequencies which do not have the drawbacks that light-based technologies
have.  I don't think that ANY of the optical techs that I've seen have been
able to achieve predictive accuracy over weeks and months without a
Recalibration finger stick or two... if we had these kinds of results back
in the 90s when I was also working on this same tech, we would have had no
problem getting funding.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
[mailto:integral.property.serv...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 2:01 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

Mark,

Perhaps adding references to your web page such as : 
http://photonicssociety.org/newsletters/apr98/overview.htm
may allow a viewer to grasp the complexity and and importance of your
efforts.

Warm Regards,

Reliable

MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote:

 Thanks Dave. I even have a hat that has the phrase, Think outside the 
 Box!

 I've haven't been able to contribute to the idea-tossing within the 
 Collective for awhile because I've been busy with 
 discussions/presentations with an investment group for our technology 
 to do noninvasive (painless) glucose measurement for diabetics. So 
 far, I've presented the technical evidence three times, the latest to 
 the CTO, so we're making it up the decision-maker hierarchy. Wish us 
 me luck!

 We have been working quietly for the last two years, but are preparing 
 to make our results more widely known. to that end, I have begun to 
 put together a website with some details and no frills nor 
 advertisements. I'd appreciate some feedback on the site as to whether 
 the information is succinct and understandable. does it communicate 
 the results to the reader in an understandable manner?

 http://webpages.charter.net/markiverson/index.htm

 Thanks,

 -Mark

 *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
 *Sent:* Friday, April 20, 2012 10:20 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

 It is an excellent idea to think out of the box Mark as in this 
 case. Keep your ideas coming!

 Dave

 -Original Message-
 From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net 
 mailto:zeropo...@charter.net
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com mailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 1:14 pm
 Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

 Where does the charge go?
  
 Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin 
 and angular momentum are combined...
  
 -m

Re: [Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote:

How much time will it take to recharge these batteries?


That could be a problem.



 With energy coming from what energy sources?


Conventional electricity.


How are national power grids going to cope with the load of millions of EVs
 requiring dozens of kilowatts of electrical power to get fully recharged in
 a practical amount of time?


Not a problem. Gasoline automobiles are incredibly inefficient. If they
were converted to electricity, the total energy consumed would be only a
small fraction of electric power generated. Especially if most are
recharged during off-peak hours there is plenty of spare capacity to handle
them. This would consume more fuel, of course.

To be more specific, transportation now consumes about 27 quads, whereas
only 12 quads of electricity are delivered. That sounds bad! But it isn't
so bad because:

With electric cars, transportation would only consume ~9 quads

AND

Nearly all 12 quads of electric energy are delivered during the day,
between 10 a.m. and 7 p.m. So you could easily deliver another 9 quads
between 8 at night and 8 the next morning. You just have to burn more coal,
gas, or fission more uranium. Or build a bunch of wind turbines and use
smart metering.

See:

http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/NRELenergyover.pdf

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

If you remember our discussions on degenerate electrons in the thread:

*New physical attraction between ions in quantum plasmas*

Centered around the paper

http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.5556.pdf

with the  title:

*Novel Attractive Force between Ions in Quantum Plasmas*

Discussion:

Electrons can be placed in a degenerate state by the Pauli Exclusion
Principle having been forced into a condition of overabundance where the
excess number of electrons cannot find a ground state to reenter therein.

This situation has been shown to generate a new attractive force between
ions that are shielded by these degenerate electrons in quantum plasmas.

The underlying cause is the reversal of charge repulsion. This mechanism
could be based on a superconductive like restriction of electron flow into
a one dimensional direction regime. Here, the electron can either flow in a
backward or forward direction caused by unique topologic constructions in
the cold plasma possibly due to the formation of some exotic forms of
hydrogen crystallization.

This type of one dimensional electron flow may cause electron
fractionalization as is suspected to happen in superconductivity where
charge can accumulate as a fractionalization phenomenon irrespective of the
location of the associated electrons.

The charge fraction of the electron may aggregate to form a hard core
negative part that serves to shield the positive charge of the ions.



Regards: Axil



On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 I wonder if electron based quasiparticles can be involved or even
 causative in the cold fusion mechanism.

 In physics, fractionalization is the phenomenon whereby the quasiparticles
 of a system cannot be constructed as combinations of its elementary
 constituents. One of the earliest and most prominent examples is the
 fractional quantum Hall effect, where the constituent particles are
 electrons but the quasiparticles carry fractions of the electron charge.

 Fractionalization can be understood as deconfinement of quasiparticles
 that together are viewed as comprising the elementary constituents. In the
 case of spin–charge separation, for example, the electron can be viewed as
 a bound state of a 'spinon’ and a 'chargon', which under certain conditions
 can become free to move separately.

 The Mills cold fusion mechanism shows indications of fractionalization of
 the orbiton/holon, the orbital quasiparticle component of the electrons
 quantum properties.

 This fractionalization may be indicative of spin change separation as
 important and active in the cold fusion mechanism.

 Spin–charge separation is one of the most unusual manifestations of the
 concept of quasiparticles. This property is counterintuitive, because
 neither the spinon, with zero charge and spin half, or the chargon, with
 charge minus one and zero spin, can be constructed as combinations of the
 electrons, holes, phonons and photons that are the constituents of the
 system.

 It is an example of fractionalization, the phenomenon in which the quantum
 numbers of the quasiparticles are not multiples of those of the elementary
 particles, but fractions.

 Since the original electrons in the system are fermions, one of the spinon
 and chargon has to be a fermion, and the other one has to be a boson. One
 is theoretically free to make the assignment in either way, and no
 observable quantity can depend on this choice. The formalism with bosonic
 chargon and fermionic spinion is usually referred to as the slave–fermion
 formalism.

 If chargon is a boson, it could support a condensate that enables a charge
 accumulation mechanism whereby the large negative electric charge localized
 is a small volume can remove the coulomb barrier to allow fusion to occur.

 Mileys observations of superconductive behavior of pockets of hydrogen
 ions may also be other indications of some sort of quasiparticle
 fractionalization at work.





 On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/19/splitting_the_electron/

 Swiss, German physicists split the electron

 Spin here, orbit there
 By Richard Chirgwin

 19th April 2012 00:01 GMT

 An international research team has observed an electron being split
 into two “quasi particles”, one carrying the original particle’s spin,
 the other carrying its orbital movement.

 Spin (giving rise to magnetism) and angular momentum (the path the
 electron follows around the nucleus of an atom) are two out of the
 electron’s three quantum properties (the other is charge). These
 properties attach to a single electron – unless, it seems, you pump
 the right substance with the right amount of energy.

 more

Re: [Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

2012-04-20 Thread mixent

In reply to  Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:52:54 -0400:
Hi,

This
http://www.almaden.ibm.com/institute/2009/resources/2009/presentations/JeffDahn-AlmadenInstitute2009.pdf

IBM paper compares some different battery technologies. On page 7 there are some
graphs detailing the problem of temperature rises. Note that at about 250 ºC,
there is an exponential rise in temperature. This could be due to a feedback
mechanism in internal leakage, but perhaps it's also a sign of CF? The rise is
most pronounced when Ni is included in the mix.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

Excellent insight, Axil.


From: Axil Axil 

If you remember our discussions on degenerate electrons in the thread:
New physical attraction between ions in quantum plasmas
Centered around the paper 
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.5556.pdf
with the  title:
Novel Attractive Force between Ions in Quantum Plasmas
Discussion:
Electrons can be placed in a degenerate state by the Pauli
Exclusion Principle having been forced into a condition of overabundance
where the excess number of electrons cannot find a ground state to reenter
therein. 
This situation has been shown to generate a new attractive
force between ions that are shielded by these degenerate electrons in
quantum plasmas.
The underlying cause is the reversal of charge repulsion.
This mechanism could be based on a superconductive like restriction of
electron flow into a one dimensional direction regime. Here, the electron
can either flow in a backward or forward direction caused by unique
topologic constructions in the cold plasma possibly due to the formation of
some exotic forms of hydrogen crystallization.
This type of one dimensional electron flow may cause
electron fractionalization as is suspected to happen in superconductivity
where charge can accumulate as a fractionalization phenomenon irrespective
of the location of the associated electrons.
The charge fraction of the electron may aggregate to form a
hard core negative part that serves to shield the positive charge of the
ions. 
Regards: Axil
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Axil Axil
janap...@gmail.com wrote:
I wonder if electron based quasiparticles can be involved or
even causative in the cold fusion mechanism.
In physics, fractionalization is the phenomenon whereby the
quasiparticles of a system cannot be constructed as combinations of its
elementary constituents. One of the earliest and most prominent examples is
the fractional quantum Hall effect, where the constituent particles are
electrons but the quasiparticles carry fractions of the electron charge.
Fractionalization can be understood as deconfinement of
quasiparticles that together are viewed as comprising the elementary
constituents. In the case of spin-charge separation, for example, the
electron can be viewed as a bound state of a 'spinon' and a 'chargon', which
under certain conditions can become free to move separately.
The Mills cold fusion mechanism shows indications of
fractionalization of the orbiton/holon, the orbital quasiparticle component
of the electrons quantum properties.
This fractionalization may be indicative of spin change
separation as important and active in the cold fusion mechanism.
Spin-charge separation is one of the most unusual
manifestations of the concept of quasiparticles. This property is
counterintuitive, because neither the spinon, with zero charge and spin
half, or the chargon, with charge minus one and zero spin, can be
constructed as combinations of the electrons, holes, phonons and photons
that are the constituents of the system. 
It is an example of fractionalization, the phenomenon in
which the quantum numbers of the quasiparticles are not multiples of those
of the elementary particles, but fractions.  
Since the original electrons in the system are fermions, one
of the spinon and chargon has to be a fermion, and the other one has to be a
boson. One is theoretically free to make the assignment in either way, and
no observable quantity can depend on this choice. The formalism with bosonic
chargon and fermionic spinion is usually referred to as the slave-fermion
formalism.
If chargon is a boson, it could support a condensate that
enables a charge accumulation mechanism whereby the large negative electric
charge localized is a small volume can remove the coulomb barrier to allow
fusion to occur. 
Mileys observations of superconductive behavior of pockets
of hydrogen ions may also be other indications of some sort of quasiparticle
fractionalization at work.



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Re: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread Harry Veeder

At any rate the Frank Znidarsic quantity of (frequency) X (length) is
conceptually intriguing, because it does not exist within the
established oeuvre of  physical meaningful quantities.
Harry

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 The Rydberg wavelength is a natural unit in all physics, given that hydrogen
 is 90% of the known universe. Nothing novel there.

 The problem - in making any sense out of Frank's constant is that (as he
 well knows) IR light is not a single frequency, nor even a characteristic
 frequency, but instead has a wide range of approximately 1 to 400 THz.

 If we were to use an average of 200 THz to be IR frequency then he could
 make an interesting prediction at 50 nm, but what about the fact that the
 trigger temperature in Ni-H is nowhere close to 200 THz.

 Oops... oh well... let's let an Alien Scientist try to rationalize or
 gloss-over that little problem ?

 Thus, the mild skepticism that megahertz-meter is anything more than a
 maybe at best, or a dart throw at worst...

 I like Frank, and his perseverance - and hope he is right, since it would be
 useful if correct - but there are too many lose ends here to get
 enthusiastic or even to use this value to design a meaningful experiment
 around.


                From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.

                Interesting.  45.6nm is also ½ the Rydberg wavelength and
 the natural unit of length in Dewey Larson's Reciprocal System of physics.


                 -Original Message-
                From: fznidar...@aol.com
                50 nano-meters ..is the magic domain that produces a
 detectable cold fusion reaction
                Jed Rothwell, Infinite Energy, Issue 29, 1999, page 23.


                50nm times ir freq = 1 million meters per sec;  Znidarsic's
 constant.

                Frankz

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Daniel Rocha

There is nothing fundamentally new about this. A quasi particle is a state
that scatters  or propagate just as it were a particle,  but in fact, it
 is just an interference pattern perturbation of the medium considered. In
the article, they just made and electron disturb the media by isolating
independently 2 different states that a given electron had, its spin and
its angular momentum in relation to an atom. These 2 states disturbed the
media and the media carried to the  measuring device both of these states,
without mixing them.

This kind of disturbance is generally very weak, it will be destroyed way
before it can cause a fusion  process.

Re: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread fznidarsic

No one said this but you, Jones  said 200 tera hertz.


Twenty terahertz is more like it.


(20 exp +12 )( 50 x 10exp-9) = one million meters per second.


That's right in the middle of 10 exp12 and 10exp13 right in the center  IR band.
How long has Jones been working for Stevek?  As far as the spectrum spread and 
the Q of the
reaction, that's part of my provisional patent.


PS the Allien Scientist just earned his degree in Physics.  If you don't have 
one, don't cut upon him.
I am proud of that young man.  He is a national hero.


Frank Z





If we were to use an average of 200 THz to be IR frequency then he could
make an interesting prediction at 50 nm, but what about the fact that the
trigger temperature in Ni-H is nowhere close to 200 THz





-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 5:46 pm
Subject: RE: [Vo]:bass and jed


The Rydberg wavelength is a natural unit in all physics, given that hydrogen
is 90% of the known universe. Nothing novel there.

The problem - in making any sense out of Frank's constant is that (as he
well knows) IR light is not a single frequency, nor even a characteristic
frequency, but instead has a wide range of approximately 1 to 400 THz.

If we were to use an average of 200 THz to be IR frequency then he could
make an interesting prediction at 50 nm, but what about the fact that the
trigger temperature in Ni-H is nowhere close to 200 THz. 

Oops... oh well... let's let an Alien Scientist try to rationalize or
gloss-over that little problem ?

Thus, the mild skepticism that megahertz-meter is anything more than a
maybe at best, or a dart throw at worst...

I like Frank, and his perseverance - and hope he is right, since it would be
useful if correct - but there are too many lose ends here to get
enthusiastic or even to use this value to design a meaningful experiment
around.


From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. 

Interesting.  45.6nm is also ½ the Rydberg wavelength and
the natural unit of length in Dewey Larson's Reciprocal System of physics.
  
 
 -Original Message-
From: fznidar...@aol.com 
50 nano-meters ..is the magic domain that produces a
detectable cold fusion reaction 
Jed Rothwell, Infinite Energy, Issue 29, 1999, page 23. 


50nm times ir freq = 1 million meters per sec;  Znidarsic's
constant.

Frankz

Re: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread fznidarsic

The constant means something.  It is the frequency and geometry at which a 
proton conductor becomes dia-magnetic to the electromagnetic, 
gravitomagnetic,and nuclear spin orbit fields.  It expels all of these fields.


Using this condition I derived the energy levels of all atoms, the amplitude of 
harmonic motion, and the momentum of a photon.  That's not trivial.


http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/chapterf.html


In extension it show how to produce energy from cold fusion, how to implement 
genesis, and how to travel at superluminal velocities.  I am getting this 
together in my second book now.


Jed will like this.  I had a job interview this week.  I start up power plants 
in a contract basis.  The interview was conducted via webcam.  That's a first 
for me.


Frank Z



At any rate the Frank Znidarsic quantity of (frequency) X (length) is
conceptually intriguing, because it does not exist within the
established oeuvre of  physical meaningful quantities.
Harry





-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 8:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:bass and jed


At any rate the Frank Znidarsic quantity of (frequency) X (length) is
conceptually intriguing, because it does not exist within the
established oeuvre of  physical meaningful quantities.
Harry

On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
 The Rydberg wavelength is a natural unit in all physics, given that hydrogen
 is 90% of the known universe. Nothing novel there.

 The problem - in making any sense out of Frank's constant is that (as he
 well knows) IR light is not a single frequency, nor even a characteristic
 frequency, but instead has a wide range of approximately 1 to 400 THz.

 If we were to use an average of 200 THz to be IR frequency then he could
 make an interesting prediction at 50 nm, but what about the fact that the
 trigger temperature in Ni-H is nowhere close to 200 THz.

 Oops... oh well... let's let an Alien Scientist try to rationalize or
 gloss-over that little problem ?

 Thus, the mild skepticism that megahertz-meter is anything more than a
 maybe at best, or a dart throw at worst...

 I like Frank, and his perseverance - and hope he is right, since it would be
 useful if correct - but there are too many lose ends here to get
 enthusiastic or even to use this value to design a meaningful experiment
 around.


From: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.

Interesting.  45.6nm is also ½ the Rydberg wavelength and
 the natural unit of length in Dewey Larson's Reciprocal System of physics.


 -Original Message-
From: fznidar...@aol.com
50 nano-meters ..is the magic domain that produces a
 detectable cold fusion reaction
Jed Rothwell, Infinite Energy, Issue 29, 1999, page 23.


50nm times ir freq = 1 million meters per sec;  Znidarsic's
 constant.

Frankz

RE: [Vo]:bass and jed

-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 5:54 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:bass and jed

At any rate the Frank Znidarsic quantity of (frequency) X (length) is
conceptually intriguing, because it does not exist within the
established oeuvre of  physical meaningful quantities.
Harry

What do you mean?  FxL is a speed.  That has more significance than is first
apparent.

[Vo]:Znidarsic's constant

Hi Frank,

This is resent from last May (slightly edited):

This profound article is the only paper I know of that explains what a
magnetic field really is, and also contains a remarkable new look at
dimensional analysis:
The Dimensions of Motion




I think a satisfying view of time is that the universe consists of Nothing
But Motion, the physics of Dewey B. Larson's Reciprocal System -- that is
the primary constituent of the universe is a unit of motion which is
space/time and it can support 3 dimensions of motion, so space and time are
just aspects of motion and both are 3D.

This model explains many things that conventional physics has no clue about
and enables calculation of  fundamental values from basic premises alone,
such as planck's constant, lifetime of the neutron, melting points of
elements etc.
Only three values are needed to perform all calculations:  c, the Rydberg
frequency, and Avagadro's number.



http://rstheory.org/video/dbl-1978
http://rstheory.org/video/rs-101

Other Reciprocal System websites:


Early RS website
RS official website
Dr. Bruce Peret's website
LRC

A new periodic chart:

http://www.lrcphysics.com/wheel/

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

There is a discussion that is underway in the field of superconductivity
regarding the mechanism of cooper pair formation. The split of electron
quantum properties has been hypothesized for some time now as its ultimate
cause.

How can to particles with the same charge pair up and stay together for a
long period of time. I might add that I believe such cooper pairing also
happens in regards to protons. In these situations the coulomb is not a
factor.

As referenced in the article under discussion in this thread, what this
research shows is that the split-up of electron quantum properties has now
been verified and real as substantiated by experiment.

There are various mechanisms involved with the formation of condensates of
these quantum properties that cause cooper pairing. The amount the
competing theories terms discussed are “slave boson formalism” or “slave
Fermion formalisms”.

Recently, in regard to the theory of the cuprite superconductors Patrick
Lee suggests that the genuinely new idea that has been developed is:

the notion of emergence of gauge fields and fractionalized particles as
low-energy phenomena in systems that did not contain them in the starting
model.

He suggests that this idea is of comparable importance in condensed matter
theory to that of Goldstone bosons.

Gauge fields emerge when the electron or spin operators are represented in
an alternative manner such as in terms of Schwinger bosons, slave fermions,
slave bosons, or slave rotors. But a key question is for a given model
Hamiltonian, which is the appropriate representation.

For quantum spin models it seems that which side of the Charles River you
work on determines your preference for a particular representation? At
Harvard, Subir Sachdev favours bosonic spinons, while on the opposite of
the river, at MIT Patrick Lee favours fermionic spinons.

It has been apparent for me in recent months that cold fusion and
superconductivity are similar phenomena. I have been boning up on
superconductivity theory to help in my understanding of cold fusion. As a
generalist I am no expert….yet, but I smell some smoke in this wind and am
looking for the fire.



Regards: Axil
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 8:58 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote:

 There is nothing fundamentally new about this. A quasi particle is a state
 that scatters  or propagate just as it were a particle,  but in fact, it
  is just an interference pattern perturbation of the medium considered. In
 the article, they just made and electron disturb the media by isolating
 independently 2 different states that a given electron had, its spin and
 its angular momentum in relation to an atom. These 2 states disturbed the
 media and the media carried to the  measuring device both of these states,
 without mixing them.

 This kind of disturbance is generally very weak, it will be destroyed way
 before it can cause a fusion  process.

RE: [Vo]:bass and jed

Frank,

 

Wow – you mean we can finally pin down a real-world prediction?  Like what is 
the ideal particle size for nickel (a proton conductor) in pressurized hydrogen 
at its Curie temp (350 C)? Why does expelling other fields result in gain?

 

From there we want to ask: would it be the same parameter for palladium 
(another proton conductor)? IOW does the actual metal involved make no 
difference – what about metals that are marginal proton conductors but show no 
thermal gain (iron)? You are saying the every proton conductor has the same 
response to hydrogen? That would be the implication of a “constant” - if it is 
a real constant.

 

From: fznidar...@aol.com 

 

The constant means something.  It is the frequency and geometry at which a 
proton conductor becomes dia-magnetic to the electromagnetic, 
gravitomagnetic,and nuclear spin orbit fields.  It expels all of these fields.

Re: [Vo]:bass and jed