Re: [Vo]:RE: Proton radius in question, after 3 years the textbooks may need to be corrected...

2013-03-10 Thread Axil Axil
In the current view of things, it’s not the ZPE, it’s the Higgs field that produces mass. How does the Higgs field and gravity interact, and general relativity, energy, not to mention the other force carriers? Here is one opinion http://www.spacetime-model.com/higgsboson/index.htm Does anybody

Re: [Vo]:RE: Proton radius in question, after 3 years the textbooks may need to be corrected...

2013-03-10 Thread Harry Veeder
Mathematically and historically the concept of inertia (mass) preceeded the concept of energy. Energy is a secondary concept because it is built on the primary concept of inertia. It would seem most theoretical physicists are ignorant about the conceptual history of their own subject. The answer

Re: [Vo]:Speculation on Rossi from OILPRICE.com

2013-03-10 Thread James Bowery
The price would bottom out at the OM cost of refined products -- the stored capacity of refined products being a small fraction of the ~10 year deployment of substantial LENR technology. Capital can be written off. On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: James

Re: [Vo]:lesson about metaphors

2013-03-10 Thread Alan Fletcher
Back to my writing: can you please send me alternative metaphors of LENR? Great project! Not a metaphor -- but a colon-punctuated perversion of a true statement, representing a negative mind-set Hot Fusion IS : NOT Cold Fusion

Re: [Vo]:lesson about metaphors

2013-03-10 Thread Peter Gluck
Thanks! Can you please explain a bit more? Negative discoveries and negative definitions,as e.g. my 20 Problem Solving Rules represent a mode of thinking, however I have not considered negative metaphors. Peter On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Back to my

Re: [Vo]:RE: Proton radius in question, after 3 years the textbooks may need to be corrected...

2013-03-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Sat, 9 Mar 2013 23:10:56 -0800: Hi, [snip] I take it that the proposed interaction with the ZPE adds mass to the exposed nucleons and doesn't to the shielded ones? What is the possible mechanism involved here? Is there a name for the proposal? Does the ZPE

RE: [Vo]:RE: Proton radius in question, after 3 years the textbooks may need to be corrected...

2013-03-10 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com in reply to Eric Walker's message: I take it that the proposed interaction with the ZPE adds mass to the exposed nucleons and doesn't to the shielded ones? What is the possible mechanism involved here? Is there a name for the proposal? Does

Re: [Vo]:RE: Proton radius in question, after 3 years the textbooks may need to be corrected...

2013-03-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Mar 10, 2013, at 13:30, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: The idea is that the ZPE is the provider of *all* mass to all things. Is this an elaboration of or a replacement for the Higgs field? Eric

Re: [Vo]:RE: Proton radius in question, after 3 years the textbooks may need to be corrected...

2013-03-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 10, 2013, at 13:30, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: The idea is that the ZPE is the provider of *all* mass to all things. Is this an elaboration of or a replacement for the Higgs field? I don't think Higgs is a

Re: [Vo]:RE: Proton radius in question, after 3 years the textbooks may need to be corrected...

2013-03-10 Thread mixent
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Sun, 10 Mar 2013 22:12:51 -0400: Hi, [snip] On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 10, 2013, at 13:30, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: The idea is that the ZPE is the provider of *all* mass to all things. Is this an