[Vo]:New RAR photos

2014-02-11 Thread ucar
Hi, Some new photos have been added to RAR pages showing progress and Mr. Renato family and others at Illinois site. http://rarenergia.com.br/

Re: [Vo]:New RAR photos

2014-02-11 Thread Craig
On 02/11/2014 05:52 AM, ucar wrote: Hi, Some new photos have been added to RAR pages showing progress and Mr. Renato family and others at Illinois site. http://rarenergia.com.br/ Why are they spending so much money building a full size model? Wouldn't a smaller prototype be a first step?

Re: [Vo]:New RAR photos

2014-02-11 Thread a.ashfield
This is a repeat of the thread further down the page, called RAR gravity engine.

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: You are missing the money. Who will fund this X-prize? Dick Smithhttp://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2012/02/24/dick-smith-rossi-e-cat-too-fantastic-to-be-true/ The the Ansari X-Prize was leveraged to the full $10M by what amounted to a bet

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote: I was impressed with Swartz's presentation on the 5th day of the MIT lectures series. He seems like a real enthusiastic researcher and inventor with a very significant invention, although small, based on a LENR process, whatever it turns out to be,

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: http://bettigue.blogspot.de/ This guy has very cool stirling engines. I wonder how much heat energy you need to run these, though perhaps they could be optimized for a Nanor device. A thermoelectric chip would probably be more practical. A

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Eric Walker wrote: The research has been driven so far underground that if Rossi or DGT or one of the others does not succeed in sparking widespread interest, and much more time goes by, the whole field could remain latent for generations. They are taking a gamble with the whole trade secret

Re: [Vo]:New RAR photos

2014-02-11 Thread David Roberson
This device is amazing. These guys most likely do not have to be concerned about garage shop copies for competition! They could dispel a lot of question about whether or not the device actually runs without external power application merely by letting it start from a standstill and continue

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
There are many things about Swartz's techniques that I do not understand. My biggest question is: Why doesn't he gang up a number of these Nanor devices? If one puts out 100 mW, why not gang up 20 of them to put out 2 W? That is much easier to measure with confidence than 100 mW. The input power

Re: [Vo]:Energy and momentum / was RAR

2014-02-11 Thread H Veeder
I think the rules imply it is true for both linear and angular momentum. No amount of the total momentum of a system can be converted into heat. However, some amount of the total energy of a system can be converted into heat. Is it possible to convert all of the energy into heat? Harry On Mon,

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
'The people at Cherokee have time. I don't think so. If nanor goes out, it will be the big splash. Rossi will just be a johnny come lately and it will be known as the Swartz Effect On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 8:01 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Eric Walker wrote: The research

Re: [Vo]:New RAR photos

2014-02-11 Thread ucar
From the design, I see horizontal mass movements are not relevant. What is left is vertical movement. I don't think any sinusodial movement lead to energy production this way, otherwise we should notice such anomalies from innumerable industrial devices. Therefore we should examine the waveform

Re: [Vo]:Energy and momentum / was RAR

2014-02-11 Thread David Roberson
That is a good question Harry. I believe that under one circumstance all of the energy can be converted into heat, but that is very specific. A linear momentum case is an excellent one to use as the example. If an observer happens to be located on a reference frame that is at rest relative

Re: [Vo]:New RAR photos

2014-02-11 Thread David Roberson
I agree that vertical force is likely the direction of drive. I can visualize that the vertical force originating from the tides has a gradient that changes with time along the long dimension of the device. That must be true for normal tides which can be seen by the behavior of water movement

Re: [Vo]:New RAR photos

2014-02-11 Thread ucar
From the design, I see horizontal mass displacement are not relevant. What is left is vertical movement. I don't think any sinusoidal movement lead to energy production this way, otherwise we should notice such anomalies from innumerable industrial devices (?). Therefore we should examine

[Vo]:Fusion by Pseudo-Particles: completed

2014-02-11 Thread Axil Axil
Fusion by Pseudo-Particles Part 1 http://www.egely.hu/letoltes/Fusion-by-Pseudo-Particles-Part1.pdf Part 2 http://www.egely.hu/letoltes/Fusion-by-Pseudo-Particles-Part2.pdf Part 3 http://www.egely.hu/letoltes/Fusion-by-Pseudo-Particles-Part3.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread H Veeder
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.comwrote: Note there could be a problem with heat between nanors interfering with one another. Perhaps the devices only work well at near ambient temperature. Just like people. Harry

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps there is a reason he has not ganged them up. Maybe he does not have 20, and it is difficult to fabricate them? I don't know, but it mystifies me. THis is precisely what he's doing. He says it takes about a month to build each

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread James Bowery
You left out my implicit request for a response from you: Sound criteria would include an experimental protocol is submitted to Dick Smith that, when followed by independent scientists, reliably generates excess energy. Other details of the criteria need to be established but it seems entirely

[Vo]:WAY, WAY OFFTOPIC : not ALL Cold Fusion news is bad

2014-02-11 Thread Alan Fletcher
Amy Willerton Bikini Pictures Red With Deep Swiss Lust http://www.egotastic.com/2014/02/amy-willerton-bikini-pictures-red-with-deep-swiss-lust/ I'm assuming it's a hot tub, or perhaps her ridiculously sextastic body just causes some kind of cold fusion event to occur. I'm feeling some kind of

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: Sound criteria would include an experimental protocol is submitted to Dick Smith that, when followed by independent scientists, reliably generates excess energy. If we had that, why would we need Dick Smith, or an X-prize? - Jed

RE: [Vo]:New RAR photos

2014-02-11 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Do you see a Whitworth Quick Return Mechanism http://iel.ucdavis.edu/projects/mechanism/quickreturn/ in there? Any magnets? Some technical papers from Steorn show energy anomalies from asymmetric paths towards permanent magnets, especially with ferrites as part of the magnetic path.

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread James Bowery
if by it you mean the experimental protocol, the point of the prize is to get it. If by it you mean the criteria by which a given experimental protocol is judged to be worthy of a prize award, then I don't understand your question. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:07 PM, Jed Rothwell

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread James Bowery
Erratum: it - that On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 2:27 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: if by it you mean the experimental protocol, the point of the prize is to get it. If by it you mean the criteria by which a given experimental protocol is judged to be worthy of a prize award, then I

Re: [Vo]:WAY, WAY OFFTOPIC : not ALL Cold Fusion news is bad

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Hey! I get Google Alerts for cold fusion but I did not get this one. No fair. - Jed

[Vo]:X-prize proposal

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
I am confused. I do not follow what James Bowery means about the X-prize. Let me reset the conversation with a new title. Bowery wrote: Sound criteria would include an experimental protocol is submitted to Dick Smith that, when followed by independent scientists, reliably generates excess

Re: [Vo]:X-prize proposal

2014-02-11 Thread James Bowery
What I'm asking for is something similar to what I asked of proponents of alternative fusion technologies when writing up the fusion prize legislation back in 1992http://www.oocities.org/jim_bowery/BussardsLetter.html : If you were considering competing for a cold fusion prize to be awarded for a

Re: [Vo]:X-prize proposal

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: What I'm asking for is something similar to what I asked of proponents of alternative fusion technologies when writing up the fusion prize legislation back in 1992http://www.oocities.org/jim_bowery/BussardsLetter.html : If you were considering

[Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
They are predicting a monster ice storm in Atlanta on Wednesday. The National Weather Service this morning said: Lets just start by saying this winter storm may be of historic proportions for portions of the area. We are looking at significant snowfall totals north /especially northeast/ and

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
See: http://www.ajc.com/news/news/atlanta-fire-chief-were-preparing-for-worst-case-s/ndLGL/ Power outages are the biggest concern. I don't have much of a generator these days. I have a 2 kW inverter which I connect to the car battery. Enough to keep the lights on, but no heat. I wish I could

Re: [Vo]:X-prize proposal

2014-02-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
Jed: I can see that we think alike. I was about to set up a new thread for the X Prize. Enclosed is my proposal sent to Singularity University honchos I met last week. I do not include any responses because I have not gotten permission to release the correspondence.

[Vo]:Wrote a song form cold fusion. 11 MB type wmv

2014-02-11 Thread fznidarsic
http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temporary/Quack.wmv Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-11 Thread Terry Blanton
The worst was the ice storm of 1973. I was in school at GaTech and we all went over to Grant Field and sat in the stadium watching the blue flashes every few seconds as limbs took down power lines. 200,000 were without power for days. That storm brought 1/2 inch of radial ice on branches and is

[Vo]:Coming in out of the cold: nuclear fusion, for real

2014-02-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0606/p25s01-stss.html Coming in out of the cold: nuclear fusion, for real By Michelle Thaller, csmonitor.com / June 6, 2005 PASADENA, CALIF. For the last few years, mentioning cold fusion around scientists (myself included) has been a little like mentioning

Re: [Vo]:Coming in out of the cold: nuclear fusion, for real

2014-02-11 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
Pyroelectric fusion, old news. Though elements of it are used in the finnish patent. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0606/p25s01-stss.html Coming in out of the cold: nuclear fusion, for real By Michelle Thaller,

Re: [Vo]:Coming in out of the cold: nuclear fusion, for real

2014-02-11 Thread James Bowery
I have to add this is an exquisitely sleazy kind of noise -- something that I would have thought below the Christian Science Monitor despite the fact that it is, as a lamestream media outlet, sleazy: When cold fusion announcements come forth in the not too distant future, the CSM can posture that

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-11 Thread ChemE Stewart
Battening down the hatches in Roswell. I charged up the flux capacitor, should be good for a couple days... On Tuesday, February 11, 2014, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: The worst was the ice storm of 1973. I was in school at GaTech and we all went over to Grant Field and sat in the

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-11 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 6:21 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote: Battening down the hatches in Roswell. I charged up the flux capacitor, should be good for a couple days... You should have bought a Rossi.

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread David L Babcock
On 2/11/2014 9:32 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com mailto:blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: http://bettigue.blogspot.de/ This guy has very cool stirling engines. I wonder how much heat energy you need to run these, though perhaps they could be

Re: [Vo]:Coming in out of the cold: nuclear fusion, for real

2014-02-11 Thread Kevin O'Malley
This is Crystal Fusion. I don't see how it qualifies as Pyroelectric fusion. There could be a clue to how fusion takes place in Condensed Matter, and that could forward our understanding of the Condensed Matter LENR reaction taking place inside Nickel or Palladium. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:16

Re: [Vo]:Coming in out of the cold: nuclear fusion, for real

2014-02-11 Thread James Bowery
I doubt it. This isn't cold at all. These nuclei are exceedingly hot and their fusion products are indistinguishable from hot fusion products. Again, the use of the word cold is pure sleaze. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Kevin O'Malley kevmol...@gmail.com wrote: This is Crystal Fusion.

Re: [Vo]:Coming in out of the cold: nuclear fusion, for real

2014-02-11 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
KEvin, this is almost 9 year old article. It's well covered on Wikipedia. They're using Pyroelectric crystals and call it Pyroelectric fusion. THe finnish patent recommends using pyroeltric crystals as a catalyst / particle accelerator to increase the energy gain with LENR. It's an interesting

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
It's 27:1 .. it might work! On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 3:40 PM, David L Babcock olb...@gmail.com wrote: On 2/11/2014 9:32 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote: http://bettigue.blogspot.de/ This guy has very cool stirling engines. I wonder how much heat

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-11 Thread Jim Dickenson
Hi - Just following the topic of power failures (our big storm is scheduled for Thursday into Friday in frozen CT) - but this article, which one of my co-workers forwarded is sobering: http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterdetwiler/2014/02/10/what-we-should-learn-from-theattack-

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
David L Babcock olb...@gmail.com wrote: http://bettigue.blogspot.de/ This guy has very cool stirling engines. I wonder how much heat energy you need to run these, though perhaps they could be optimized for a Nanor device. A thermoelectric chip would probably be more practical. A

RE: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-11 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Battening down the hatches in Roswell. I charged up the flux capacitor, should be good for a couple days... You should have bought a Rossi. Nah! Just eat a banana and throw the peels into the top of Mr. Fusion. Good luck! Stay warm. That goes for you too, Jed! Regards, Steven Vincent

Re: [Vo]:Atlanta is in a tizzy

2014-02-11 Thread Jed Rothwell
Hundreds of power company trucks have come from other states. The grocery stores are mobbed. Government officials are making automated phone calls every house telling people not to panic . . . If nothing much happens it will be anticlimactic. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Wrote a song form cold fusion. 11 MB type wmv

2014-02-11 Thread Ruby
Synths - retro organ - absurdist dada noise - I want to join your band! Gotta bend that toy though: http://casperelectronics.com/finished-pieces/circuit-bending-tutorial/ On 2/11/14 2:37 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temporary/Quack.wmv Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:Wrote a song form cold fusion. 11 MB type wmv

2014-02-11 Thread H Veeder
*claps* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyu82WG_edM Harry On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 5:37 PM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: http://www.angelfire.com/scifi2/zpt/temporary/Quack.wmv Frank Z

Re: [Vo]:Energy and momentum / was RAR

2014-02-11 Thread H Veeder
I should point out that after the collision the balls won't be damaged if they weren't rigid in the first place. It is also possible that after the balls stick together they do not vibrate or heat up. In this case in order for energy to be conserved, the combined mass would increase. The