[Vo]:No new posts?

2014-11-12 Thread Alan Fletcher
Is it just me, or . 



Re: [Vo]:No new posts?

2014-11-12 Thread Alan Fletcher
... everybody except me



Re: [Vo]:No new posts?

2014-11-12 Thread Foks0904 .
Has been pretty busy for a while now...I think it's OK to have it slow down
a bit, no? Forums aren't the healthiest of outlets sometimes...

2014-11-12 14:46 GMT-05:00 Alan Fletcher a...@well.com:

 ... everybody except me




RE: [Vo]:About iron and cobalt in Rossi's fuel

2014-11-12 Thread Robert Ellefson
(Cross-posted from e-catworld )

 

Axil,


Although some aspects of this reaction may be occurring, I suspect that the 
large crystal sizes for both the iron and lithium aluminum hydrate suggest that 
this fuel does not have sufficiently dispersed nano-scale reactants, which this 
article discusses as a distinguishing feature. Instead, I suspect that the iron 
is a large grain of fractured electrical steel which is used in bulk form to 
modulate the induced EMF stimulation into locally-enhanced gradients and 
spectral distributions, for SPP pumping. That is certainly how it appears in 
the fuel photograph, (particle 3, pages 43-44) at about 150x200 microns in 
size, with no apparent abrasions from ball milling or similar processes.

The LiAlH4 also appears to be (particle 2, pages 43-44) a solid grain of 50x100 
microns, and shows yield fractures and signs of being cut from a compressed 
form, which I believe is the tablet version of LiAlH4, rather than the powdered 
version. The tablet form is known to be much more stable in air than the 
powder. Sigma-Aldrich carries the tablets as product #323403. I suspect that 
1-5 micron carbonyl-process nickel grains were tumbled with partially crushed 
or cut tablet grains, such as particle 2 shows, to prep for reactor startup. 
Ultrasonic stimulation of the nickel particles is known to promote clustering 
as well, and I suspect this may be a part of the fuel preparation process also.

I suspect that Rochelle Salt (aka Potassium Sodium Tartrate) is being used as 
to bind the AlH4 ligands during startup, which may be a source of some of the 
potassium and sodium observed. The unlabeled particles that appear in Figure 3a 
on page 44, just below and touching the label box for particle 1, both exhibit 
a similar morphology that is distinct from that of particles 1, 2 and 3. I 
suspect these particles could be Rochelle Salt.

As Bob Higgins pointed out previously, the role of other chemical getters, such 
as used in vacuum tube manufacturing and other controlled-atmosphere reactions, 
seems likely, and could be a source for other fuel elements not yet attributed 
to specific reactants.

 

Best wishes,

-Bob Ellefson

 

 

 

From: Axil Axil   Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2014 9:35 AM
Subject: [Vo]:About iron and cobalt in Rossi's fuel

This might explain why iron and cobalt was found in the Rossi fuel charge.

CONCLUSIONS

In summary, the dehydrogenation properties of LiAlH4 doped
with Fe2O3 and nanoparticles exhibit a dramatic
improvement compared with that of as-received LiAlH4. 



Re: [Vo]:No new posts?

2014-11-12 Thread Daniel Rocha
We are all enjoying Rossi's barbecue. You were the only one that was not
invited!

-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com


[Vo]:The pale blue dot

2014-11-12 Thread Axil Axil
One of the sticking point that lodges deeply in the gullets of real
science is that LENR is just too perfect to be believed. They are wrong. In
point of fact, it is beyond too perfect, it is absolutely perfect. The
corruption of the mind that is our legacy inherited from the mindless
primitive from which we evolved rebels against the concept of such
perfection. Such perfection cannot exist in this life. Such perfection can
only exist and be truly enjoyed in the next. From the pride and prejudice
born deep within that primordial dark place, mankind does not deserve to
drink fully this sweet ambrosia of the immortals.

LENR goes way beyond a great way to produce energy, it is a doorway to a
new science whose implications when fully appreciated and developed will
lift mankind up to trod upon brave new worlds spread like dust before
eternity. A door for humankind will open to savor the power and the
prerogatives of the gods. When man is wise enough to step through this
doorway past the impossible that LENR lays open into timeless and unending
existence, mankind will spread like a rising tide throughout the universe.

This perfection of LENR is its own threat to its credibility and its
science is here 1000 years before its proper time. What aborigines from the
dawn of our past corruption would rightly understand the wonders of our
present civilization without quaking with fear at the reality of such
wonders? The science that LENR will reveal and the future that it portends
it just too awesome to contemplate.

Carl Sagan explained the emotion behind our current science and cosmology
when he wrote Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space. Sagan
played for high stakes in this attempt to de-deify our entire species.
His beautiful, secular psalm dedicated to our demotion is unsurpassed. In
Psalm 8, King David described us as only a little lower than the angels
while in Pale Blue Dot, Sagan takes great pains to obliterate any sense of
cosmic significance.

Sagan says of that picture taken from by a spacecraft from a viewpoint far
out in space: “We succeeded in taking that picture and, if you look at it,
you see a dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you
know, everyone you love, everyone you've ever heard of, every human being
who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and
sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic
doctrines. Every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator
and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple
in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and
explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every
superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of
our species, lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam”.

With the help of LENR, this view claustrophobic view of human existence is
about to change.


[Vo]:DCE and LENR could be merging soon

2014-11-12 Thread Jones Beene
There has been a missing cross-connection between nuclear and
electromagnetic theories at the nanoscale which has hobbled the
understanding for LENR. For instance, many observers on vortex have been
under the false impression that the Casimir force is much weaker than
nuclear. which is not necessarily true, especially at elevated temperatures.

New findings suggest that there is a near equivalence between the Casimir
electrodynamic force and weak nuclear interactions. The paper in question:
Ninham, B.W. et al Casimir Forces in a Plasma: Possible Connections to
Yukawa Potentials
http://www.epj.org/images/stories/news/2014/10.1140--epjd--e2014-50484-8.pdf

At small distances the formulae are approaching equivalence to the effect of
the force of an electron-positron plasma in the space between the
interacting ideal plates, according to the study. Thus the dynamic Casimir
force can be weakened or accentuated by a plasma. In this context, the
mesons of the nuclear interaction theory become plasmons, which are
collective excitations in the sea of electron-positron pairs in the vacuum.
This ties in directly to the effect of SPP on Casimir cavities.

As mentioned in recent postings on the Rossi dog-bone reactor, which is
made of sintered alumina (which is a fabulous repository of dielectric
Casimir cavities): a viable explanation for gain involves SPP pumping of
hydrogen captured in ceramic Casimir cavities.

If the conclusions suggested in this paper proves correct, the implications
are profound for many scientific areas ranging from electrochemistry to
nanotechnology . not to mention that the prime candidate for thermal gain in
LENR - which is NOT the authors' concern here (never mentioned), probably
shifts away from a nuclear explanation to the DCE, or Dynamical Casimir
Effect.

Jones


Re: [Vo]:The pale blue dot

2014-11-12 Thread Lennart Thornros
Hi Axil,
When you say :
With the help of LENR, this view claustrophobic view of human existence is
about to change.
You are sure that we will not have to go the other way - the whole solar
system is that speckle of dust :)?
My experience is, that when one get a better understanding,
one always get to see, that it is much more to be explored, than it was
before that discovery.

Best Regards ,
Lennart Thornros

www.StrategicLeadershipSac.com
lenn...@thornros.com
+1 916 436 1899
202 Granite Park Court, Lincoln CA 95648

“Productivity is never an accident. It is always the result of a commitment
to excellence, intelligent planning, and focused effort.” PJM

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 One of the sticking point that lodges deeply in the gullets of real
 science is that LENR is just too perfect to be believed. They are wrong. In
 point of fact, it is beyond too perfect, it is absolutely perfect. The
 corruption of the mind that is our legacy inherited from the mindless
 primitive from which we evolved rebels against the concept of such
 perfection. Such perfection cannot exist in this life. Such perfection can
 only exist and be truly enjoyed in the next. From the pride and prejudice
 born deep within that primordial dark place, mankind does not deserve to
 drink fully this sweet ambrosia of the immortals.

 LENR goes way beyond a great way to produce energy, it is a doorway to a
 new science whose implications when fully appreciated and developed will
 lift mankind up to trod upon brave new worlds spread like dust before
 eternity. A door for humankind will open to savor the power and the
 prerogatives of the gods. When man is wise enough to step through this
 doorway past the impossible that LENR lays open into timeless and unending
 existence, mankind will spread like a rising tide throughout the universe.

 This perfection of LENR is its own threat to its credibility and its
 science is here 1000 years before its proper time. What aborigines from the
 dawn of our past corruption would rightly understand the wonders of our
 present civilization without quaking with fear at the reality of such
 wonders? The science that LENR will reveal and the future that it portends
 it just too awesome to contemplate.

 Carl Sagan explained the emotion behind our current science and cosmology
 when he wrote Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space. Sagan
 played for high stakes in this attempt to de-deify our entire species.
 His beautiful, secular psalm dedicated to our demotion is unsurpassed. In
 Psalm 8, King David described us as only a little lower than the angels
 while in Pale Blue Dot, Sagan takes great pains to obliterate any sense of
 cosmic significance.

 Sagan says of that picture taken from by a spacecraft from a viewpoint far
 out in space: “We succeeded in taking that picture and, if you look at it,
 you see a dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you
 know, everyone you love, everyone you've ever heard of, every human being
 who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and
 sufferings, thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic
 doctrines. Every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator
 and destroyer of civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple
 in love, every hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and
 explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every
 superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the history of
 our species, lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam”.

 With the help of LENR, this view claustrophobic view of human existence is
 about to change.



Re: [Vo]:DCE and LENR could be merging soon

2014-11-12 Thread Terry Blanton
I always thought the strong force *was* a Casimir force.  The diameter
of the hydrogen nucleus is 10^-15m and the Planck length is 10^-35m.
Assuming Planck to be the high frequency cutoff of the ZPF, the vast
majority of the energy lies within these two wavelengths.



Re: [Vo]:The pale blue dot

2014-11-12 Thread Bob Cook
Axil--

Nice prose or poetry--take your pick.

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: Axil Axil 
  To: vortex-l 
  Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 1:31 PM
  Subject: [Vo]:The pale blue dot


  One of the sticking point that lodges deeply in the gullets of real science 
is that LENR is just too perfect to be believed. They are wrong. In point of 
fact, it is beyond too perfect, it is absolutely perfect. The corruption of the 
mind that is our legacy inherited from the mindless primitive from which we 
evolved rebels against the concept of such perfection. Such perfection cannot 
exist in this life. Such perfection can only exist and be truly enjoyed in the 
next. From the pride and prejudice born deep within that primordial dark place, 
mankind does not deserve to drink fully this sweet ambrosia of the immortals.


  LENR goes way beyond a great way to produce energy, it is a doorway to a new 
science whose implications when fully appreciated and developed will lift 
mankind up to trod upon brave new worlds spread like dust before eternity. A 
door for humankind will open to savor the power and the prerogatives of the 
gods. When man is wise enough to step through this doorway past the impossible 
that LENR lays open into timeless and unending existence, mankind will spread 
like a rising tide throughout the universe.


  This perfection of LENR is its own threat to its credibility and its science 
is here 1000 years before its proper time. What aborigines from the dawn of our 
past corruption would rightly understand the wonders of our present 
civilization without quaking with fear at the reality of such wonders? The 
science that LENR will reveal and the future that it portends it just too 
awesome to contemplate.


  Carl Sagan explained the emotion behind our current science and cosmology 
when he wrote Pale Blue Dot: A Vision of the Human Future in Space. Sagan 
played for high stakes in this attempt to de-deify our entire species. His 
beautiful, secular psalm dedicated to our demotion is unsurpassed. In Psalm 8, 
King David described us as only a little lower than the angels while in Pale 
Blue Dot, Sagan takes great pains to obliterate any sense of cosmic 
significance.


  Sagan says of that picture taken from by a spacecraft from a viewpoint far 
out in space: “We succeeded in taking that picture and, if you look at it, you 
see a dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you know, 
everyone you love, everyone you've ever heard of, every human being who ever 
was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of all our joys and sufferings, 
thousands of confident religions, ideologies and economic doctrines. Every 
hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of 
civilizations, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every 
hopeful child, every mother and father, every inventor and explorer, every 
teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every superstar, every supreme 
leader, every saint and sinner in the history of our species, lived there--on a 
mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam”.


  With the help of LENR, this view claustrophobic view of human existence is 
about to change.


RE: [Vo]:DCE and LENR could be merging soon

2014-11-12 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton 

I always thought the strong force *was* a Casimir force.  The diameter of the 
hydrogen nucleus is 10^-15m and the Planck length is 10^-35m.
Assuming Planck to be the high frequency cutoff of the ZPF, the vast majority 
of the energy lies within these two wavelengths.


Possible... at some point in the progression, it becomes 'semantics' as much as 
physics
http://vixra.org/pdf/1403.0006v1.pdf




Re: [Vo]:DCE and LENR could be merging soon

2014-11-12 Thread Terry Blanton
There are others as whacked out as me.



Re: [Vo]:DCE and LENR could be merging soon

2014-11-12 Thread Bob Cook

Terry--

More wacky ideas:

What about the gravitational attraction between two quarks--energy 
packets--on the small distant scales associated with 10 e-35 meters and on 
to 0.  The force between small energy packets--quarks-- could get large 
until they disappear from sight.  Is that why quarks can not be seen?  They 
could be just black holes with charge and spin whatever those things are; 
unless quarks have a significant dimension such that they can not present a 
point of mass that is less than about `10 e-15 meters.


These thoughts suggest that whatever establishes the dimension of a quark 
also establishes the distributed source of the gravitational field that the 
energy/mass of the quark generates.


Bob


- Original Message - 
From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:DCE and LENR could be merging soon



There are others as whacked out as me.






Re: [Vo]:DCE and LENR could be merging soon

2014-11-12 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:
 Terry--

 More wacky ideas:

 What about the gravitational attraction between two quarks--energy
 packets--on the small distant scales associated with 10 e-35 meters and on
 to 0.

Whoa!  There can be no zero!  Unless you are a Buddhist. [?]


[Vo]:Surface plasmon induced drag effect (SPIDEr)

2014-11-12 Thread Axil Axil
 The properties and behavior of the Surface plasmon polaritons(SPP) varies
as a function of its lifetime. A short lived SPP performs a different job
than its longer lived brothers. A short lived SPP will only exists on a
femtosecond time scale. Metals support SPPs that exert forces on electrons
causing an SPP-enhanced photon drag effect (PDE). A pronounced drag effect
begins to take hold under the conditions of strong nanoplasmonic
confinement, when the SPP localization radius is less than the skin depth
(∼ 25 nm), has not been studied or exploited theoretically or
experimentally in nanoplasmonics.

A giant surface plasmon induced drag effect (SPIDEr) in metal nanowires,
which is very fast, with response on the femtosecond time scale. Recent
research shows that the ultra short, nanolocalized SPP pulses exert great
forces on electrons in thin nanowires, inducing giant THz electromotive
force (emf) along the SPP propagation direction.

In thin (∼ 5 nm radius) nanowires this emf can reach ∼ 10 V, with
nanolocalized THz fields as high as ∼ 1 MV/cm. Such THz field have
previously been generated in the far zone, where they produce
non-perturbative effects, but not on the nanoscale.

In contrast, the plasmonic metal nanowires can serve as nanolocalized
sources of high THz emf fields exerting accelerating force on electrons of
its associated dipole.

In LENR, one of the functions that Surface plasmon polaritons(SPP) perform
is to transfer the energy carried by heat (IR) photons and inject that heat
energy into the dipoles vibrations that form the matter based component of
the SPP.

There exists a energy concentration mechanism that feeds power into
energetic electrons when these electrons are accelerated by the linear
momentum contained in the IR photons that comprise the SPP.

A SPP that dies quickly, produces more EMF force than one that exists for a
long time and then dies slowly. There is an analogy to the dynamics of
sparks. This SPP behavior seems to correspond to the proportional
amplification of instantaneous power produced by a very short lived sparks.
A spark that dies off quickly must shed all its power in a very short time
frame. This lends itself to intense power amplification. The shorter lived
the spark, the higher the instantaneous  power that the spark produces when
it dies. The following seems to be the relationship involves with this SPP
ultra short collapse mechanism.
EMF power is proportional for any given SPP power level to nanoplasmonic
confinement. Nanoplasmonic confinement is related to the time that the SPP
exists. A short lived SPP has a large and relatively leak proof
nanoplasmonic confinement. Like a wakefield accelerator, a rapidly
collapsing SPP will push electrons at high force levels proportional to its
rate of collapse. The linear momentum of the SPP is transferred to the
electrons with a great force giving the electron a high level of
instantaneous power.

A very small the nanoparticle and it associated contact plasma channel that
the SPP forms with another touching nanoparticle, the higher the
nanoplasmonic confinement and the shorter is that SPP lifetime.

The EMF force produced by the SPP is inversely proportional to the cube of
the diameter of the plasma channel. That is to say, a tiny sub-nanometer
channel means a huge EMF power amplification factor.

When two nanoparticles touch, the size of their point of contact defines
their EMF instantaneous power amplification factor.

The EMF force produced by the SPP is inversely proportional to the cube of
the diameter of the plasma channel. That is to say, a tiny channel means a
huge EMF amplification factor applied to the electron in the dipole at that
point of contact.

A small nanoparticle will produce a smaller point of contact and a
proportionally larger EMF force application factor.

In this way, the energy in the heat applied to the system is transferred to
the dipoles as a huge increase in electron power.

Now this electron has the ability to pair up with a EMF photon of even a
higher frequency. In a short time, the SPP system will gradually clime an
acceding frequency ladder to EMF levels in the extreme ultra violet (XUV)
range.


Re: [Vo]:Surface plasmon induced drag effect (SPIDEr)

2014-11-12 Thread Axil Axil
Please allow this rewrite

http://arxiv.org/pdf/0907.1621v1.pdf

*Giant Surface Plasmon Induced Drag Effect (SPIDEr) in Metal Nanowires*

The properties and behavior of Surface plasmon polaritons(SPP) will vary as
a function of their lifetimes. In LENR, a short lived SPP performs a
different job than its longer lived brothers. The shortest lived SPP will
only exist on a femtosecond time scale. Metals support short lived SPPs
that exert forces on electrons causing an SPP-enhanced photon drag effect
(PDE). A pronounced drag effect begins to take hold under the conditions of
strong nanoplasmonic confinement, when the SPP localization radius is less
than the skin depth (∼ 25 nm). This effect has not been widely studied,
exploited theoretically or experimentally in nanoplasmonics.

In more detail. a giant surface plasmon induced drag effect (SPIDEr) in
metal nanowires acts very fast, with response on the femtosecond time
scale. Recent research shows that the ultra short, nanolocalized SPP pulses
exert great forces on electrons in thin nanowires, inducing giant THz
electromotive force (emf) along the SPP propagation direction.

In thin (∼ 5 nm radius) nanowires this emf can reach ∼ 10 V, with
nanolocalized THz fields as high as ∼ 1 MV/cm. Such THz fields have
previously been generated in the far zone, where they produce
non-perturbative effects, but not on the nanoscale.

In contrast, the plasmonic metal based naochannels can serve as
nanolocalized sources of high THz emf fields exerting accelerating force on
electrons of its associated dipole.

In LENR, one of the functions that SPP perform is to transfer the energy
carried by heat (IR) photons and inject that heat energy into the dipoles
vibrations that form the matter based component of the SPP.

There exists a energy concentration mechanism that feeds power into
energetic electrons when these electrons are accelerated by the linear
momentum contained in the IR photons that comprise the SPP.

A SPP that dies quickly, produces more EMF force than one that exists for a
long time and then dies slowly. There is an analogy to the dynamics of
sparks. This SPP behavior seems to correspond to the proportional
amplification of instantaneous power produced by a very short lived spark.
A spark that dies off quickly must shed all its power in a very short time
frame. This lends itself to intense power amplification. The shorter lived
the spark, the higher the instantaneous power that the spark produces when
it dies. The following seems to be the relationship involves with this SPP
ultra short collapse mechanism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulsed_power

EMF power is proportional for any given SPP power level to nanoplasmonic
confinement. Nanoplasmonic confinement is related to the time that the SPP
exists. A short lived SPP has a large and relatively leak proof
nanoplasmonic confinement. Like a wakefield accelerator, a rapidly
collapsing SPP will push electrons at high force levels proportional to its
rate of its collapse. The linear momentum of the SPP is transferred to its
associated electron with a great force giving the electron a high level
gain of instantaneous power.

A very small nanoparticle will produce a very thin contact plasma channel
when it touches another nanoparticle during nanoparticles arrogation. This
thin nanochannel results in higher and tighter nanoplasmonic confinement
and a shorter SPP lifetime.

When two nanoparticles come together, the size of their mutual point of
contact defines their EMF instantaneous power amplification factor.

Like nanowire, the EMF force produced by the SPP is inversely proportional
to the cube of the diameter of its connective plasma channel. Specifically,
a very thin sub-nanometer sized plasma channel means a huge EMF power
amplification factor.

A small nanoparticle will produce a smaller point of contact and a
proportionally larger EMF power application factor.

In this way, the energy in the heat photons applied to the system is
transferred to the dipoles as a huge increase in electron power, specially,
heavy high frequency electrons.

Now this heavy electron has the ability to pair up with a EMF photon of
even a higher frequency when there energy levels are equal. In a short
time, the SPP system will gradually climb an acceding frequency ladder to
EMF levels in the extreme ultra violet (XUV) range.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 The properties and behavior of the Surface plasmon polaritons(SPP) varies
 as a function of its lifetime. A short lived SPP performs a different job
 than its longer lived brothers. A short lived SPP will only exists on a
 femtosecond time scale. Metals support SPPs that exert forces on electrons
 causing an SPP-enhanced photon drag effect (PDE). A pronounced drag effect
 begins to take hold under the conditions of strong nanoplasmonic
 confinement, when the SPP localization radius is less than the skin depth
 (∼ 25 nm), has not been studied or