[VO]:Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread patrick
I have a copy of a Russian paper on a new physical method of disinfection of water that addresses a portion of the magnetic water theme. I will send a jpg to anyone that wishes to read it. Richard, Can you drop me a copy, please? [Sorry to mail this to list, rather than privately, but my

Re: [Vo]: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread patrick
I wrote: Does yours resemble any of these pictures? Terry wrote: Yes. But these seem to use an electrolyte. Schiffer is quite clear that he considers using an electrolyte is OK *if necessary*, and you're going for a relatively quick result. However, he also says that For the patient

Re: [Vo]: Re: Electrochemical Reduction of CO2 to Organic Fuels

2006-08-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
The nuts and bolts of it. http://www.osti.gov/bridge/ "The Information Bridge: DOE Scientific and Technical Information provides free public access to full-text documents and bibliographic citations of Department of Energy (DOE) research report literature. Documents are primarily from 1994

Re: [Vo]: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schiffer is quite clear that he considers using an electrolyte is OK *if necessary*, and you're going for a relatively quick result. I'll probably try it both ways. Distilled water at Walmart is only $0.68/gal. However, he also says

[Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread Jones Beene
Terry, Gee, I don't see how you can get 50 mA with 12 VDC with neat water. I'm only getting 1.1 mA with 9 VDC. Larger surface area? The cell Patrick is talking about has only two or three neutral plates - you have 16 total - 14 neutral, correct? Your plate-to-plate voltage drop in tiny.

RE: [Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
I went over our 12 plate (~ 1.0 cm spacing) with my cohort/lackey with a starting voltage of about 9 volts at 1.6 ma on the rechargeable power unit there were small bubbles on the water-plastic interface near the anode plate too. The rechargeable dc supply was brought up to ~ 13 vdc and the

Re: [Vo]: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread Frederick Sparber
Terry Blanton wrote. On 8/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Schiffer is quite clear that he considers using an electrolyte is OK *if necessary*, and you're going for a relatively quick result. I'll probably try it both ways. Distilled water at Walmart is only $0.68/gal.

Re: [Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/2/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With 16 plates you can probably use 20 volts. Do you have a wall-wart near that level? Some of the HP large block transformers that they used to sell with their printers are 24 volts ... What about using two wall-warts in series? you have so many

Re: [Vo]: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/2/06, Frederick Sparber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all those wired up plates, check the voltage between two of them to see how the resistivity rho = Resistance*Area/spacing, is looking. I won't insult your intellect by saying V = I*R. :-) So, why does current only flow between the

Re: [Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/2/06, Willis Jenkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What ever this may be worth, otherwise sorry for taking your time. No no!! This is just the information we need. I love it when a lurker joins in. I'm getting bored talking to the same old farts. ;-) Do you have a picture of your setup?

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2006-08-02 Thread Anthony
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[Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread Jones Beene
Terry I've found a volunteer to test the final hydrobooster in one of his fleet vehicles which gets 17.1 mpg. He said if I can get a 30% boost in his mileage, I can do all his fleet for $600 each. Whoa... that might be a bit hasty. I think you will see a 30% boost if the device is

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2006-08-02 Thread leaking pen
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[Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread Willis Jenkin
I promise not to be a lurking pest, so I will impart a few more caveats before moving back into the shadows. I'm sure you all know that the current increase is not a linear function, it increases in steps, you will add voltage and see very little difference and then bam! up a few or 10's of mA.

[Vo]: Cavitation Propulsion?

2006-08-02 Thread Zell, Chris
Has anyone ever attempted to use cavitation as a form of propulsion? Perhaps that's what Schauberger or Clem were doing.

[Vo]: Hydrogen boosting

2006-08-02 Thread Jones Beene
This page has a fairly complete listing of companies making electrolysis cells for the add-on market for cars and trucks. http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Fuel_Efficiency_Hydrogen_Injection I suspect that long-haul trucking is the biggest and most demanding customer for these. Here is

Re: [Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water

2006-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/2/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoa... that might be a bit hasty. I think you will see a 30% boost if the device is properly built and sized, etc. but there are so many unanswered questions about long term corrosion, etc. John Steck mentioned this briefly. If the valves go

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2006-08-02 Thread ThomasClark123
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Re: [Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water Picture

2006-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
WJ's setup is here: http://geocities.com/terry1094/wtrchg.jpg Willis, How long have you been charging in this photo? Is there an electrolyte? If so, what kind (NaCl, KOH, etc)? Voltage and current? TIA Terry On 8/2/06, Willis Jenkin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is a simple unit, 500ml

[Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water Picture

2006-08-02 Thread Jones Beene
Terry Willis already answered your questions in the same post ... must be a hot afternoon in Hot-lanta... g Here is a simple unit, 500ml distilled (farm grade), 12mm carbon cathode, two 2mm SS rod anodes. Input voltage 4.6V at 6.4mA. That seems to prove his point about carbon being

Re: [Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water Picture

2006-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/2/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Terry Willis already answered your questions in the same post ... must be a hot afternoon in Hot-lanta... g Yeah, and since Iana.org took over the Inet, nothing has been right. However, I have some bad news. I tested experimental and control

[Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water Picture

2006-08-02 Thread Willis Jenkin
If any of you are going to work with carbon (graphite) rods, save some money, this is where we obtain them. http://www.graphitestore.com/cat.asp/spcat_id/1

[Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water Picture

2006-08-02 Thread Jones Beene
Ok, darn... so Terry is telling me that the exposiveness in a microwave oven of my charged water is due only to the small NaCl content. If 100% true, that makes it slightly less interesting in a way, but that does not account for the much greater amount of gas derived from this water during

Re: [Vo]: Re: Magnetic Vortices Charged Water Picture

2006-08-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On 8/2/06, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Still hopeful that Terry can make some unsalted BAM water ... It's still chargin'! BTW, Blanton distilleries make some premium bourbon: http://www.blantonsbourbon.com But don't snipe at that:

Re: [Vo]: Re: Aqueous-Electrolytic CO2 Catalyzed H2 Producrtion

2006-08-02 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Terry Blanton's message of Wed, 2 Aug 2006 10:07:41 -0400: Hi Terry, [snip] There are 16 plates and no electrolysis was anticipated. Also, Jones had recommended an even lower voltage. The goal was to charge the water, not make gas. Then perhaps you should simply disconnect the