Re: [Vo]: "Bettery" on-the-way?

Jed Rothwell wrote: I think electric cars would be easier to implement than people realize, and most of the concerns about limited operating range are either unimportant, or they could easily be fixed. If the world had run short of oil back in 1960, you can be sure we would have implemented elect

Re: [Vo]: FW: $25 million prize for greenhouse gas removal

The winning concept only has to look good on paper. At least that is my impression after I quickly scanned the competition's website . Harry Stiffler Scientific wrote: Isn't that a big funny? If life is about to end because of global warming why is removal of Gre

Re: [Vo]: FW: $25 million prize for greenhouse gas removal

FW: $25 million prize for greenhouse gas removal Stiffler wrote... Isn't that a big funny? If life is about to end because of global warming why is removal of Green House Gasses only worth $25Mil, yet a way to produce or filter water is worth $200 Billion? I doubt I would even start for

[Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday February 9, 2007

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RE: [Vo]: FW: $25 million prize for greenhouse gas removal

FW: $25 million prize for greenhouse gas removalIsn't that a big funny? If life is about to end because of global warming why is removal of Green House Gasses only worth $25Mil, yet a way to produce or filter water is worth $200 Billion? I doubt I would even start for $25 Million when 60% goes to

[Vo]: FW: $25 million prize for greenhouse gas removal

New Scientist - NEWS ALERT - $25 million prize for greenhouse gas removal Come up with a system for removing a billion tonnes of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, and you could win the biggest prize in history, says its spons

Re: [Vo]: Empathy (was Re: More about the skeptics' mindsets)

OK this sounds more sensible, we have gone even beyond the stage of a hypothesis (I myself have witnessed such bad CF experiments). CF presented in this more realistic light, mistakes and all, looks more like real science. A lot of weeding would have to be done, but that's another story. Best is

Re: [Vo]: Empathy (was Re: More about the skeptics' mindsets)

Edmund Storms wrote: Let me throw my two cents into this discussion. Of course some people doing cold fusion have made mistakes and reported bad data. Right. And this is like saying that some programmers write programs with bugs, some doctors accidentally kill patients, and some people drive

Re: [Vo]: Empathy (was Re: More about the skeptics' mindsets)

Let me throw my two cents into this discussion. Of course some people doing cold fusion have made mistakes and reported bad data. This is not the issue. When this happen in normal science, people go back to the lab and try again. In cold fusion, the error is used to discredit the whole idea. Th

Re: [Vo]: Empathy (was Re: More about the skeptics' mindsets)

Michel Jullian wrote: I said imagine one CF experimenter, just one for a start, has been wrong and won't admit it . . . No problem. Heck, I know many CF researchers who have been wrong and will not admit it. Just about everyone at the NHE lab was wrong. I know some false negatives such as C

Re: [Vo]: Water Vortex Video

On 2/9/07, David Thomson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had said I would make a video of my water vortex generator and have been putting it off. This morning I remembered I had made a video record for my self. It was kewl. But it made me have to go pee. Terry

Re: [Vo]: Empathy (was Re: More about the skeptics' mindsets)

I said imagine one CF experimenter, just one for a start, has been wrong and won't admit it, and you keep throwing various things at me to avoid the perspective. Why? Can't you question your beliefs even as a mere hypothesis? I am not saying this is so, just imagine. Michel - Original Mess

Re: [Vo]: Empathy (was Re: More about the skeptics' mindsets)

Michel Jullian wrote: I never asked what was the probability (which you underestimated BTW, in all fields of science there is at least _one_ renowned scientist who has made an error, can't you think of examples?) Not just one! I know HUNDREDS of renowned scientists who have made huge errors

Re: [Vo]: "Bettery" on-the-way?

In a bettery future you'll be able to live life at your own pace, rather than at the average pace. This will mean more action for those who feel under-stimulated, and less action for those who feel over-stimulated. Harry > > - Original Message - > From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Vo]: "Bettery" on-the-way?

Why sure, but what I meant is that imagining we have the supercapacitor betteries, there would be no point in swapping them rather than transferring the juice. With such betteries swapping just wouldn't fit in the picture, although as you say there would be no other option for lead-acid batterie

Re: [Vo]: Empathy (was Re: More about the skeptics' mindsets)

Dear Jed, This was a bit weak, I must say you did much better in your previous empathy exercise! I never asked what was the probability (which you underestimated BTW, in all fields of science there is at least _one_ renowned scientist who has made an error, can't you think of examples?), only

RE: [Vo]: Water Vortex Video

Hi Jones, > Looks like you were going for an artistic/ecosystem approach. I built this a couple years ago and intended to be looking at it constantly. There are no mountain streams here in the middle of Illinois, so it was necessary to observe an engineered vortex in my house. > Have you consi

RE: [Vo]: Speed of light confirmed

Hi Stephen, >Yeah, I'll probably fiddle around some more with this, just because it >seems like the "pre-ring" is going the wrong way and I'd like to >understand why. That's good. While the scope precludes you from doing any interesting shock wave experiments ( way too slow ) you can certainly

Re: [Vo]: Empathy (was Re: More about the skeptics' mindsets)

Michel Jullian wrote: Now try another impersonation. Imagine yourself in the place of a hypothetical CF experimenter who realizes years later that his past overunity claims were erroneous for some unobvious reason, but still believes (rightly so maybe) that there must be a way to make CF work

Re: [Vo]: Water Vortex Video

Looks like you were going for an artistic/ecosystem approach. Have you considered using just the tapered cone for energy experimentation? Richard M. will be pleased with the nice tight helical channel in the cone, no doubt using less HP than he is using in his super-size-it water purifier. G

Re: [Vo]: "Bettery" on-the-way?

Thanks to voice input and force of habit, I wrote: A recharge station similar to a 12 page gasoline station would require a large bank of super capacitors and also a 1 MB or 2 MB power supply . . . That is supposed to be a 12-bay gasoline station and a 1 MW or 2 MW power supply! Good grief.

Re: [Vo]: "Bettery" on-the-way?

Michel Jullian wrote: Battery swapping has been mentioned, why not just empty the "gas" station's full one into the car's empty one? That is what we have in mind when we talk about a "bank" of supercapacitors. With something like a lead-acid battery which takes a long time to recharge, swapp

Re: [Vo]: "Bettery" on-the-way?

Ah, I was wondering what that unit could be :) Battery swapping has been mentioned, why not just empty the "gas" station's full one into the car's empty one? Michel - Original Message - From: "Jed Rothwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [

Re: [Vo]: The Parasol Fix

thomas malloy wrote: As for your Parasol Fix to Climate Change, You should have posted it on a science fiction list Jed. They just spent $100 billion and 20 years to build the ISS. Based on that, just how many trillion $, over how many decades, do you think what your parasol project will cost

Re: [Vo]: "Bettery" on-the-way?

I wrote: ". . . would require a large bank of super capacitors and also a 1 MB or 2 MB power." Mega-WATT not byte! Megabytes hardly count these days. They used to cost $1000 and now they cost 0.05 cents. - Jed

Re: [Vo]: "Bettery" on-the-way?

Mike Carrell wrote: I have read that to propel a standard car at 60 MPH over a level highway takes only some 20+ horsepower delivered to the wheels. That's about 14 kW. Do that for three hours and you have 42 kWH. Right. 14 kWh per hour. 60 mph = 100 kph. (Okay, 97 kph to be exact.) Divide 1

Re: [Vo]: "Bettery" on-the-way?

Mike Carrell wrote: I replied to Jed's earlier post before seeing this one. The number he uses 0.2-0.3 kWH/km is creeping in 'rush hour' traffic, not at expressway speeds . . . No, that's for highway speeds. The next idea is the battery swap, but who will trust that the swapped battery is

Re: [Vo]: "Bettery" on-the-way?

thomas malloy wrote: Suppose you want to recharge a dozen cars at one time, ten times per hour (six minutes each) during the peak rush hour. That's 120 I have a simple answer, you plug the car in when you shut it off. I'm talking about a garden variety, 20 Amp plug in. That's fine for short t

[Vo]: Water Vortex Video

I had said I would make a video of my water vortex generator and have been putting it off. This morning I remembered I had made a video record for my self. It has plenty of good footage in it to show that the vortex is strictly a downward flow in the center, as evidenced by the air bubbles being

Re: [Vo]: Now this is a website!

Ah, a fellow etymologist! There are occasions when I just can't be satisfied with a word until I know all about its origin. I felt such impulse about "anode" (Gk ana, up and odos, way) and "cathode" (kata, down and odos, way), what the hell was it that goes up or down in those electrodes? I was

Re: [Vo]: Now this is a website!

Everyday is judgement day. Harry John Berry wrote: I'm all for Apocalypse: Apocalypse (Greek : ?¼ok?luyiV - translit. APOKALYPSIS, literally: the lifting of the veil), is a term applied to the disclosure

[Vo]: Empathy (was Re: More about the skeptics' mindsets)

Empathy: the ability to imagine oneself in another's place and understand the other's feelings, desires, ideas, and actions... (Encyclopaedia Britannica) Congratulations Jed, few people if any are capable of such a high level of empathy, sincerely! Now try another impersonation. Imagine yourse

Re: [Vo]: Now this is a website!

I'm all for Apocalypse: *Apocalypse* (Greek : Ἀποκάλυψις -translit. APOKALYPSIS, literally: the lifting of the veil), is a term applied to the disclosure to certain privileged persons of something hidden fr

Re: [Vo]: Now this is a website!

surely http://www.helicola.com is better? On 09/02/07, thomas malloy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Vortexians; Those of you who have been on the list for a while know that I have a fascination with the apocalypse, and a gallows sense of humor. The author of this website was interviewed this morn

[Vo]: Now this is a website!

Vortexians; Those of you who have been on the list for a while know that I have a fascination with the apocalypse, and a gallows sense of humor. The author of this website was interviewed this morning on C to C AM, no matter what you think about his theories, you will, IMHO, appreciate the ar