Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:20:29 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The upper positive wire produces a positive ion cloud beneath so they repel
each other. If I have understood the EHD account correctly, the force of
repulsion is predicted to be
Taken as whole this differs from Michel's explanation.
No it doesn't, this is exactly it. The only thing missing in Robin's excellent
explanation is that the ion cloud in its downwards motion pushes against the
neutral ambient air it ploughs through (otherwise there would be no net lift)
The
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:57:25 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The wire creates a positive cloud. The tube attached to the negative terminal
is
negative, and hence attracts the positive air cloud. This pulls the tube up,
and
the cloud down. When the positive cloud comes in
I see nothing misleading in either term Harry, drift describes accurately what
the ions do wrt the neutrals, and wind describes accurately what the neutrals
do while entrained by the drifting ions.
I agree ion wind is misleading though, because it could easily be mistaken
for ionic wind (a
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:25:32 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Perhaps the fact that the president of Iran asserted that their goal is
to erase Israel from the map has something to do with it.
The actual phrase, reported in LeMonde IIRC, was something like rayer
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:08:28 +1100:
Hi,
[snip]
As I understood it at the time, he should Israel should be
^^ said
Regards,
Robin van Spaandonk
http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/
Competition (capitalism)
What conspiracy fans miss is that if all their theories are correct,
it's all futile and irrelevant. How so?
Because it would mean that vast numbers of people in and out of
government are utter traitors and sociopaths - and that they are little
more than obsequious thralls
to a nearly all
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
Whether or not Israel has nuclear weapons, everyone in the
middle-east believes they do . . .
I am sure they do. I have it on good authority, and besides, it has
often been described in the news. They do not have many warheads, but
measured in targeting ability,
Well aren't we the little pessimist?
Tell me, is Hitler still in power?
On 2/23/07, Zell, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What conspiracy fans miss is that if all their theories are correct,
it's all futile and irrelevant. How so?
Because it would mean that vast numbers of people in and
Standing Bear wrote:
Remember the Hindenberg? What, not old enough? Well we all saw the
frantic newscast and the fiery pictures often enough if we have even been
marginally educated. Most commentators blamed the Germans for being
'stupid' for building a hydrogen derigible or at least
From: John Berry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:34 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Challenge for Jed, and any other unsure.
Tell me, is Hitler still in power?
No, but his evident followers apparently are
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
And the surprising truth, learned years later, was that the hydrogen
had little or nothing to do with the fire.
This was discussed in the book, Tomorrow's Energy. See the essay,
Don't paint your airship with rocket fuel. Frankly, I disagree. No
doubt the burning
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:25:32 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Perhaps the fact that the president of Iran asserted that their goal is
to erase Israel from the map has something to do with it.
The actual phrase, reported in LeMonde IIRC,
A formula found on a web site says that, for a uniform flywheel, the
energy stored is given by:
E = mr^2w^2 / 4
So, for a mass of 1 kg with a radius of 0.25 m and a rotational rate
of 120 RPM (4 pi rad/s) the energy stored is 2.47 J. Does this sound
right?
Does anyone know how to calculate
Tape this tonight, folks; it may never be shown again.
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Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007
That sounds way low to me -- only 2.47 watts for a second to spin up
something that big -- just my impression, though.
-Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 9:53 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]: Momentum
A formula
Yeah, same here; but, I just got one of our ME's to confirm it.
AAMOF, he missed it on the first try since he had all the mass at the
rim like a bicycle wheel (k=1). :-)
Terry
On 2/22/07, Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That sounds way low to me -- only 2.47 watts for a second to
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 22 Feb 2007 02:57:25 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
The wire creates a positive cloud. The tube attached to the negative
terminal
is
negative, and hence attracts the positive air cloud. This pulls the tube up,
and
the cloud down.
http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/Science-Fiction-News.asp?NewsNum=939
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- Original Message -
From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters
...
...Sigmond's derivation for the lifter thrust (or rather it's opposite
namely the force
exerted by the ions on the air
...
Howdy Mark,
Interesting your post today coincided with a series of contrails across
south central Texas today stretching from Houston to San Antonio.
There were impressive in they appeared as a giant tick tack toe
checkerboard crisscrossing. the sky as far as could be seen.
Wow!.
Our
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:11:03 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Michel Jullian wrote:
The tube doesn't oscillate because the process Robin described is continuous.
For this to be plausible the tube could never be neutral. In fact, if the
tube's charge were to fall below some
On Thursday 22 February 2007 10:14, Jed Rothwell wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
And the surprising truth, learned years later, was that the hydrogen
had little or nothing to do with the fire.
This was discussed in the book, Tomorrow's Energy. See the essay,
Don't paint your airship with
BlankHowdy Vorts,
Yes, the Hindenburg project suffered from the cutoff of a supply of Helium gas
by the US Gov't.
Helium is a strategic element. The US privatized the main US source of Helium
into the hands of a subsidiary of Bechtol.
Considering the importance of Helium to atomic energy and
Michel Jullian wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 8:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters
...
...Sigmond's derivation for the lifter thrust (or rather it's opposite
namely the force
exerted
Michel Jullian wrote:
I see nothing misleading in either term Harry, drift describes accurately what
the ions do wrt the neutrals, and wind describes accurately what the neutrals
do while entrained by the drifting ions.
Drift and wind in everyday language connote circumstances
and forces
Robin van Spaandonk wrote:
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 22 Feb 2007 14:11:03 -0500:
Hi,
[snip]
Michel Jullian wrote:
The tube doesn't oscillate because the process Robin described is
continuous.
For this to be plausible the tube could never be neutral. In fact, if the
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