Michel Jullian wrote:
The lifter
will simply rise if the force exceeds its weight, in which case its
acceleration is (force - weight)/mass, as long as the aerodynamic drag
remains
negligible as is the case in all practical lifters.
Would the lifter also have to overcome a lorenz force?
Zell, Chris wrote:
What conspiracy fans miss is that if all their theories are
correct, it's all futile and irrelevant. How so?
In the first hour of C to C AM last night Alex Jones of infowars and
prisonplanet.com was interviewed. I didn't notice any of the conspiracy
thread mentioning
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 2/20/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could this provide a possible explanation for why Iran may actually be
interested in a civilian nuclear power generation capability?
A 50 MW heavy water reactor??
Surely you jest.
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From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Tubular Lifter (again)
For this to be plausible the tube could never be neutral. In fact, if the
tube's charge were to fall below some minimum
No, because any net Lorentz force (due to the geomagnetic field?) would be not
only very small, but at 90° from the thrust direction.
Michel
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Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 8:57 AM
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From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Army paper on lifters
Ion is a Greek word isn't it?
Ion means something that goes in Greek. Scientific term introduced by Faraday
in his
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From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters
Ok, now I understand the essentials of this explanation.
Good.
However, concerning the tubular lifter, I would argue that the
The author of this website was interviewed on C to C AM. He says that
the human brain is full of magnetite crystals. These crystals are
affected by seismic activity and might produce various exstactic states,
one of which is the religious experience. the page which this link opens
talks about
Of course, only one or a few whales per herd would have to be equipped.
Alternatively, one or a few sphepherd (whalherd?) iron dispensing ships
leading large whale herds could be used. They could be unmanned for cost
reduction, or on the contrary exploited for whale watching tourism in order to
The thought that it is futile is what makes it so.
On 2/23/07, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zell, Chris wrote:
What conspiracy fans miss is that if all their theories are
correct, it's all futile and irrelevant. How so?
In the first hour of C to C AM last night Alex Jones of
The motion of the ions does not generate a magnetic field?
Harry
Michel Jullian wrote:
No, because any net Lorentz force (due to the geomagnetic field?) would be not
only very small, but at 90° from the thrust direction.
Michel
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Michel Jullian wrote:
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From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Tubular Lifter (again)
For this to be plausible the tube could never be neutral. In fact, if the
tube's charge were
thomas malloy wrote:
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote:
Terry Blanton wrote:
On 2/20/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could this provide a possible explanation for why Iran may actually be
interested in a civilian nuclear power generation capability?
A 50 MW heavy
Harry Veeder wrote:
reactor is a plutonium 239 generator, which is how the Canadians and
Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I don't
think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either.
we built the bomb?
Sure. Why else do you think Bush has not invaded
On 2/23/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
reactor is a plutonium 239 generator, which is how the Canadians and
Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I don't
think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either.
we built the bomb?
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
reactor is a plutonium 239 generator, which is how the Canadians and
Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I don't
think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either.
we built the bomb?
Sure. Why else do you think
I realize that completely eliminating all contamination is difficult but
if protons can be popped out of the vacuum by an arc discharge, then I
think we need
to take another look at the Steady State theory of the universe. This
could be one of those little experiments with big implications.
Michel Jullian wrote:
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From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 6:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Re: Army paper on lifters
Ion is a Greek word isn't it?
Ion means something that goes in Greek. Scientific term
Harry Veeder wrote:
Jed Rothwell wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
reactor is a plutonium 239 generator, which is how the Canadians and
Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I don't
think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either.
we built the bomb?
Sure. Why else
Harry
The BBC showed some footage of the nuclear facilities. What interested
me the most, is the line that was producing heavy water. A heavy water
reactor is a plutonium 239 generator,
You are making an incorrect jump in logic here which leads to the direct
*opposite* conclusion.
All
Michel Jullian wrote:
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From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters
Ok, now I understand the essentials of this explanation.
Good.
However, concerning the tubular
Jones Beene wrote:
Harry
You should be addressing Thomas.
Harry
The BBC showed some footage of the nuclear facilities. What interested
me the most, is the line that was producing heavy water. A heavy water
reactor is a plutonium 239 generator,
You are making an incorrect jump in logic
Sergio Bacchi has translated paper by Edmund
Storms into Brazilian Portuguese. He worked for
several months translating my book into
Portuguese, and yesterday he finally finished. I
uploaded the book in stages. It is now complete under a new file name:
Of course it does, but nothing much, no more than a wire a few mm long carrying
a few mA current.
Michel
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Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters
The motion of the ions does
Michel Jullian wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
However, concerning the tubular lifter, I would argue that the
elevated tube when the lifter is _accelerating upwards is evidence that the
_internal forces_ don't add up to zero.
The elevated tube is merely a deformation due to internal forces.
Ok.
Harry
Michel Jullian wrote:
Of course it does, but nothing much, no more than a wire a few mm long
carrying a few mA current.
Michel
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From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 3:11 PM
Subject: Re:
In an email exchange Kiril Chukanov wrote:
Such people are: Perendev (do you know somebody to see an working MEG or
somebody who use these ghost generators?), Akoil (Russia), etc. Those
people are charlatans (black-maiilers) and they damage the reputation of
the Free Energy branch of New
Only a guess (maybe) but how about; Some See It and Some Don't ?
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From: thomas malloy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 3:13 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]: Frolov update
In an email exchange Kiril Chukanov wrote:
Such people
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WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 23 Feb 07 Washington, DC
1. OF PANDERING AND PEOPLE: WHO
??? Look, this tubular lifter has nothing special, it just has a loose skirt
moving under internal forces. Think of the paddle wheel having a loose axle.
The axle will jump forward, trying to leave the boat behind, when you engage
the clutch in forward gear, and then will stay there as long as
Or maybe it generates ghosts?
Michel
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Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 10:38 PM
Subject: RE: [Vo]: Frolov update
Only a guess (maybe) but how about; Some See It and Some Don't ?
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Did you watch the video and listen to the commentary closely?
Harry
Michel Jullian wrote:
??? Look, this tubular lifter has nothing special, it just has a loose skirt
moving under internal forces. Think of the paddle wheel having a loose axle.
The axle will jump forward, trying to leave the
I understand your example and I can see how it applies to this lifter.
Never mind me...I was just deluding myself.
Harry
Michel Jullian wrote:
??? Look, this tubular lifter has nothing special, it just has a loose skirt
moving under internal forces. Think of the paddle wheel having a loose
John Berry wrote:
The thought that it is futile is what makes it so.
On 2/23/07, *thomas malloy* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Zell, Chris wrote:
What conspiracy fans miss is that if all their theories are
correct, it's all futile and irrelevant. How
Harry Veeder wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
Canadians and Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I
don't think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either.
we built the bomb?
Harry
I think that Canada is a nuclear power, maybe not. They did however
build
thomas malloy wrote:
Harry Veeder wrote:
thomas malloy wrote:
Canadians and Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation,
I don't think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either.
we built the bomb?
Harry
I think that Canada is a nuclear power, maybe
Jones Beene wrote:
Harry
I Wrote:
The BBC showed some footage of the nuclear facilities. What
interested me the most, is the line that was producing heavy water.
A heavy water reactor is a plutonium 239 generator,
You are making an incorrect jump in logic here which leads to the
Michel,
Reading your attachment, I noticed the derived formula for the force on the
ions appears to be specific to a particular anode and cathode geometry.
i.e. It says d = distance point-plane, which I take to mean
the gap between a wire-like anode and the upper edge of skirt-like cathode.
Yes, a long time ago. Why?
Michel
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From: Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 1:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]: Lifters
Did you watch the video and listen to the commentary closely?
Harry
Michel Jullian wrote:
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