Re: [Vo]: 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

2007-03-30 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:50:53 -0500: Hi, [snip] > >The effects are real, a nuclear reaction is involved but may be >the nuclear reaction is not of the fusion kind after all. > >2 out of 3 ain't bad! ;-) [snip] Even addition of a neutron is a form of fusion, though

[Vo]: Khufu solved?

2007-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
If you are (deeply) into Egyptology, have an hour or so to be doing something else while waiting on downloads even with DSL, including special 3D software, and want to view a bizarre but possibly accurate French theory on the construction of Khufu's pyramid - using an internal ramp structure, t

Re: [Vo]: OFF topic was: Re: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Terry Blanton
On 3/30/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Nick Palmer wrote: TB >> Oh? Have you had the pleasure of watching "V, the Vendetta"? > Never heard of it before but Wikipedia brought me up to date. Missed that one too but the theme sounds very similar to 'Brazil', no? Hmmm, maybe. Thin

Re: [Vo]: The Oil Gang -- The Empire continues its assault

2007-03-30 Thread thomas malloy
Taylor J. Smith wrote: Jed wrote: ``Against this backdrop, Washington is consumed with "ethanol euphoria." President Bush in his State of the Jack Smith PS Look for action to take out the Iranian oil fields. My comment Tonight on the Glenn Beck Show, Glenn's guests will be answering th

Re: [Vo]: Katharine Sanderson - Nature

2007-03-30 Thread Steven Krivit
I don't think they were there. At 10:43 PM 3/29/2007 -0500, you wrote: Perhaps Physics Today will carry something in its April issue... Harry

Re: [Vo]: Magnetic Electric Plasma Confinement

2007-03-30 Thread thomas malloy
Charles M. Brown wrote: With Perpetual Motion of the Second Kind any fusion machine producing energy releasing nuclear reactions will create surplus energy. I think the diode array will be more of a general purpose electrical energy and refrigeration source. A modified ME vessel may be usful

[Vo]: Fw: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday March 30, 2007

2007-03-30 Thread Akira Kawasaki
-Forwarded Message-from Akira Kawasaki >From: What's New <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Mar 30, 2007 2:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [BOBPARKS-WHATSNEW] What's New Friday March 30, 2007 WHAT'S NEW Robert L. Park Friday, 30 Mar 07 Washington, DC 1. INTELLIGENT DESIGN: THE LHC WI

Re: [Vo]: OFF topic was: Re: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
Nick Palmer wrote: TB >> Oh? Have you had the pleasure of watching "V, the Vendetta"? Never heard of it before but Wikipedia brought me up to date. Missed that one too but the theme sounds very similar to 'Brazil', no? All of the fascination with future Brit dystopia probably derives from

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread leaking pen
This may make wood alchohol production useful again, as you can now break down both the lignin AND the cellulose. On 3/30/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: leaking pen wrote: > Theres direct cellulose conversion now? Yup. Only this year has the Rumpelstiltskin effect come into fruit

[Vo]: OFF topic was: Re: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Nick Palmer
<> Never heard of it before but Wikipedia brought me up to date. Seriously, it was only the Iraqi potential "use of WMD in 45 minutes" that got our Government on side. When that proved to be a lie, everything else since has just been face saving and bullshit.

[Vo]:

2007-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Taylor J. Smith wrote: "By their works you shall know them." Before we dismiss the the Oil Gang as bumbling fools . . . Nobody dismisses them! . . . remember that making ethanol from corn requires a net increase in oil consumption and helps keep the price of oil up in the face of the worl

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
leaking pen wrote: Theres direct cellulose conversion now? Yup. Only this year has the Rumpelstiltskin effect come into fruition - with at least three companies moving from pilot plants to full production. One leading contender is called Dyadic. They are a bit tight-lipped, but the plan

Re: [Vo]: Re: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Terry Blanton
Oh? Have you had the pleasure of watching "V, the Vendetta"? T On 3/30/07, Nick Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jones Beene wrote:- <> Hey, us Brits COULD do it, but it is unthinkable that we would - we're not mad and our Government has recovered from their search for WMD madness - shame t

[Vo]: Re: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Nick Palmer
Jones Beene wrote:- <> Hey, us Brits COULD do it, but it is unthinkable that we would - we're not mad and our Government has recovered from their search for WMD madness - shame that another Gubmint hasn't...

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread leaking pen
Theres direct cellulose conversion now? I'm behind on the technology, obviously. On 3/30/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: leaking pen wrote: > I for one never understood CORN being used. grow something with a > higher fruit yeild per acre, and sugar yeild per pound. The decision f

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: As Pimentel has pointed out ... Utterly meaningless. The guy is an antiquated and misguided zealot . . . Because he does biology, and presents quantitative, reality-based arguments, I suppose. I agree that in the new era of fact-free touchy-feeling "truthiness" this kind

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
leaking pen wrote: I for one never understood CORN being used. grow something with a higher fruit yeild per acre, and sugar yeild per pound. The decision for growing corn is not 'ordered' at even a regional level but is made at a much lower level - the individual farmer. From the perspecti

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread leaking pen
I for one never understood CORN being used. grow something with a higher fruit yeild per acre, and sugar yeild per pound. On 3/30/07, Jones Beene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Recent negative comments on Vortex on this subject are short-sighted and counter productive, despite the fact that ethanol

[Vo]: The new watt-coms, a new era is approaching

2007-03-30 Thread Steven Vincent Johnson
SUBJECT: The new watt-coms, a new era is approaching Good news in AE R&D arena: See: http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/trilliondollar-prize-turns-dotcom-into-wattcom/2007/03/30/1174761748983.html http://tinyurl.com/2fvtj4 Excerpts: > SILICON Valley's dotcom era might be giving way to > the

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
Jed Rothwell wrote: As Pimentel has pointed out ... Utterly meaningless. The guy is an antiquated and misguided zealot with zero credibility among the decision makers on either side of the aisle- as witnessed by the massive changes already underway. As for developing improved ethanol, if

[Vo]: 2 out of 3 ain't bad.

2007-03-30 Thread Harry Veeder
The effects are real, a nuclear reaction is involved but may be the nuclear reaction is not of the fusion kind after all. 2 out of 3 ain't bad! ;-) Harry Robin van Spaandonk wrote: > In reply to Harry Veeder's message of Thu, 29 Mar 2007 22:37:58 -0500: > Hi, > [snip] >> In your opinion, is

Re: [Vo]: Lots of press reports about cold fusion

2007-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: "I will ignore all ideas and new works and engines of war, the invention of which has reached its limits and for whose improvement I see no further hope." - Julius Frontinius, chief military engineer to the Roman Emperor Vespasian, 1st century A.D. That's supposed to be "I will igno

Re: [Vo]: Ultra low momentum neutron catalyzed nuclear reactions

2007-03-30 Thread Harry Veeder
Please excuse the multiple postings. I forgot to delete vortex-l from the 'To' address box. Harry

Re: [Vo]: Lots of press reports about cold fusion

2007-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
R.C.Macaulay wrote: Howdy Jed, Positive in that 5 reports are now in print, negative in the words "laced" within the reports. Yup. But please note that 4 out of 5 says something good about CF, in addition to the usual negative garbage. Google Alerts brings me dozens of articles about cold f

Re: [Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene wrote: It is all about infrastructure, 'stepping stones', stop-gap solutions, and the ramping up of domestic farm production with what we have now - in anticipation of what we will have in two to three years time. As Pimentel has pointed out, if we were to convert every scrap of n

[Vo]: Biofuel Bonanza

2007-03-30 Thread Jones Beene
Recent negative comments on Vortex on this subject are short-sighted and counter productive, despite the fact that ethanol itself is not a desirable transportation fuel. It is all about infrastructure, 'stepping stones', stop-gap solutions, and the ramping up of domestic farm production with w

Re: [Vo]: Lots of press reports about cold fusion

2007-03-30 Thread R.C.Macaulay
Jed wrote, They all seem to be positive. I do not recall ever seeing five positive press reports on cold fusion in a single day. Jed's response, "Space is not the issue. Your comment was factually incorrect and misleading. A factually correct statement would not have taken up more space. You w

Re: [Vo]: Lots of press reports about cold fusion

2007-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is some interesting follow up on these stories: They all seem to be positive. I do not recall ever seeing five positive press reports on cold fusion in a single day. Symposium to discuss Cold Fusion

Re: [Vo]: Lots of press reports about cold fusion

2007-03-30 Thread Edmund Storms
Interesting that the ACS seems to create more press interest than does the APS where the same papers were given a month earlier. Nevertheless, this exposure is good news and will give other writers the courage to say something positive about CF. Ed Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is an article in N

[Vo]: Lots of press reports about cold fusion

2007-03-30 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is an article in Norwegian, apparently pro-CF (judging by an automatic transaction): http://www.forskning.no/Artikler/2007/mars/1174909392.3 Google Alerts brought me five stories plus one about Hair Extensions: Symposium to discuss

[Vo]: The Oil Gang -- The Empire continues its assault

2007-03-30 Thread Taylor J. Smith
Jed wrote: ``Against this backdrop, Washington is consumed with "ethanol euphoria." President Bush in his State of the Union address set a production goal for 2017 of 35 billion gallons of alternative fuels, including grain-based and cellulosic ethanol, and liquefied coal.'' Kyle wrote: If any

[Vo]: Magnetic Electric Plasma Confinement

2007-03-30 Thread Charles M. Brown
I contributed the first part of this to the fusion topic at wired: May I present a possibly practical hot fusion machine that I have been thinking of for years that combines magnetic and electric fields for critique as an open source offering. The magnetic part is provided by hoop coils in a

[Vo]: Ion source

2007-03-30 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
Hi, Can someone who seen a 10mA ion source tell me approximately how big they tend to be (order of magnitude)? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation, Cooperation (communism) provides the means.