[VO]: Year 2008 predictions in science

2008-02-01 Thread R.C.Macaulay
BlankHowdy Vorts,

Predictions for the year include a new theory in the fundamental understanding 
of electricity and it's potential implications.

Richard


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Re: [VO]: Year 2008 predictions in science

2008-02-01 Thread Terry Blanton
And maybe magnetism by 2012?  :-)

Terry

On Feb 1, 2008 8:22 AM, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Howdy Vorts,

 Predictions for the year include a new theory in the fundamental
 understanding of electricity and it's potential implications.

 Richard






Re: [Vo]:cold running

2008-02-01 Thread Terry Blanton
On Jan 31, 2008 5:39 PM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 A regular poster to Vo, who will remain unnamed, may
 want to chime-in with an appropriate anecdote here,
 about a magnetic motor being developed which shows a
 much greater dT than what JLN has shown... or not.

Odd, I just finished discussing this topic with a colleague less than
one hour ago.  There is a lot of discussion on the web these days
about permanent magnets and work.  There is no question that a
permanent magnet can perform work; but, there is a great deal of
discussion about whether there can be a net energy gain in any
magnetic cycle.  If indeed there is a net energy gain in any permanent
magnetic cycle from whence does this energy come?

Soon, I hope to be placed in contact with Horst Stormer (1998 Nobel
physics - fractional quantum hall effect) to discuss the defense of a
European patent application for such a magnetic cycle.  I actually
used Hotson's first treatise as a talking point for the electron being
capable of acting as a negative entropy pump.  I am hoping that Dr.
Stormer can provide some insight as to the physical structure of the
electron (or all fermions for that matter).

It is conjectured at this time that a net energy gain in a magnetic
cycle may come from the angular momentum of half-integer spin
particles.  A seriously outlandish idea is that a negative energy
photon is moved from beyond the zero energy point into our 3 space.
However, it would explain some experimental evidence of which I am not
presently at liberty to discuss.

Terry



Re: [Vo]:cold running

2008-02-01 Thread Harry Veeder
On 1/2/2008 11:30 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:

 On Jan 31, 2008 5:39 PM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 A regular poster to Vo, who will remain unnamed, may
 want to chime-in with an appropriate anecdote here,
 about a magnetic motor being developed which shows a
 much greater dT than what JLN has shown... or not.
 
 Odd, I just finished discussing this topic with a colleague less than
 one hour ago.  There is a lot of discussion on the web these days
 about permanent magnets and work.  There is no question that a
 permanent magnet can perform work; but, there is a great deal of
 discussion about whether there can be a net energy gain in any
 magnetic cycle.  If indeed there is a net energy gain in any permanent
 magnetic cycle from whence does this energy come?

Does it really matter?
I mean shouldn't we be more concerned with the _effects_ of energy
production and distribution rather than trying to balance the energy books
all the time.

Harry


 Soon, I hope to be placed in contact with Horst Stormer (1998 Nobel
 physics - fractional quantum hall effect) to discuss the defense of a
 European patent application for such a magnetic cycle.  I actually
 used Hotson's first treatise as a talking point for the electron being
 capable of acting as a negative entropy pump.  I am hoping that Dr.
 Stormer can provide some insight as to the physical structure of the
 electron (or all fermions for that matter).
 
 It is conjectured at this time that a net energy gain in a magnetic
 cycle may come from the angular momentum of half-integer spin
 particles.  A seriously outlandish idea is that a negative energy
 photon is moved from beyond the zero energy point into our 3 space.
 However, it would explain some experimental evidence of which I am not
 presently at liberty to discuss.
 
 Terry
 



Re: [VO]: Year 2008 predictions in science

2008-02-01 Thread R.C.Macaulay

Howdy Terry,

The ever increasing understanding of both electricity and magnetism may 
allow us to merge what was in the past, considered different.
Nature is full of clues, take the color spectrum for example. The early 
indians of the western

hemisphere considered the color blue and green to both be the same color..
The same may be so in sound. Consider that sound research demonstrate sound 
may be entirely cancelled by.. what else? .. Sound.That may not seem 
important to the casual viewer, however it is most profound to consider. 
When studying there type relationships we may consider that sound. like 
electricity may be released by cancellation whereas the power released is 
greater than the cancelling power. Within this comment lurks another thought 
lurks regarding the identifying marker we describe as LENR.
Beyond the close kin between electricity amd magnetism, we may find much of 
what we perceive as different not so, but extremely close kin.. some 
elements may be transmuting before our eyes.  At present we view many 
chemical reactions as reactions when we may began to view them as 
tranmutation phenomena. Frank Grimer has an inkling of a thought that will 
be expanded as time goes by regarding chemistry and transmutation.


Now if I could just get the Dime Box ancient alchemy home brew kits we sell 
to turn water into wine,.. well .. err.. maybe not go that far..

Richard



And maybe magnetism by 2012?  :-)

Terry

On Feb 1, 2008 8:22 AM, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Howdy Vorts,

Predictions for the year include a new theory in the fundamental
understanding of electricity and it's potential implications.

Richard







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Re: [VO]: Year 2008 predictions in science

2008-02-01 Thread Terry Blanton
Turn the water into beer, or better still, tequila.  I'm sure both
will sell better at the Dime Box than wine.

Speaking of Grimer.  His response to a recent post of mine on the B-Atm group:

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From:   Frank Grimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:   Fri, 01 Feb 2008 17:20:40 -
Subject: [Beta-atmosphere_group] Re: Electric Field Contains B-Atm


Interesting. In effect the negative electrons in the metal are the
equivalent of the pore water in clay and it is the electrical
pressure difference between the inside and the outside of the metal
which gives the metal its strength. Putting a positive charge outside
increases the pressure difference and so squeezes the metal more
closely together sealing up the cracks.

The corollary is that if you put a negative charge outside you would
open up the cracks and cause the metal to break up. I wonder if this
is related to the Hutchison effect in some way or other.



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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://www.upi.com/NewsTrack/Science/2008/01/30/new_way_found_to_stop_metal_stress_cracks/8493/

 New way found to stop metal stress cracks

 Published: Jan. 30, 2008 at 1:19 PM

 AMHERST, Mass., Jan. 30 (UPI) -- U.S. engineers have discovered a strong
 electrical field can stabilize the surface of metals, inhibiting the formation
 of stress fractures.

 The University of Massachusetts researchers said the technology, which can 
 also
 be applied to other conductive solids, could improve the function and
 reliability of a wide variety of machines, including aircraft and electronic
 devices.

 In metals and other crystalline solids that conduct electricity, stress is
 generally concentrated on the surface of the material, the scientists said,
 noting stress also builds up at interfaces where two types of material are
 joined.

 The study showed the action of an electric field, properly applied while a
 material is under stress, can stabilize the surface or interface, inhibiting
 the formation of cracks and healing cracks that have already started.

 Traditionally, improving crack resistance has relied on improving the 
 physical
 properties of the surface through polishing and coating, or strengthening the
 interfaces, said Professor Dimitrios Maroudas, who led the research. Our
 study proposes a drastically different approach to improving crack resistance
 and increasing the lifetime of components and devices.

 Results of the study, which included doctoral student Vivek Tomar and 
 Associate
 Research Professor M. Rauf Gungor, appear in the journal Physical Review
 Letters.

 end

On Feb 1, 2008 3:20 PM, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Howdy Terry,

 The ever increasing understanding of both electricity and magnetism may
 allow us to merge what was in the past, considered different.
 Nature is full of clues, take the color spectrum for example. The early
 indians of the western
 hemisphere considered the color blue and green to both be the same color..
 The same may be so in sound. Consider that sound research demonstrate sound
 may be entirely cancelled by.. what else? .. Sound.That may not seem
 important to the casual viewer, however it is most profound to consider.
 When studying there type relationships we may consider that sound. like
 electricity may be released by cancellation whereas the power released is
 greater than the cancelling power. Within this comment lurks another thought
 lurks regarding the identifying marker we describe as LENR.
 Beyond the close kin between electricity amd magnetism, we may find much of
 what we perceive as different not so, but extremely close kin.. some
 elements may be transmuting before our eyes.  At present we view many
 chemical reactions as reactions when we may began to view them as
 tranmutation phenomena. Frank Grimer has an inkling of a thought that will
 be expanded as time goes by regarding chemistry and transmutation.

 Now if I could just get the Dime Box ancient alchemy home brew kits we sell
 to turn water into wine,.. well .. err.. maybe not go that far..
 Richard



  And maybe magnetism by 2012?  :-)
 
  Terry
 
  On Feb 1, 2008 8:22 AM, R.C.Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Howdy Vorts,
 
  Predictions for the year include a new theory in the fundamental
  understanding of electricity and it's potential implications.
 
  Richard
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Vo]:cold running

2008-02-01 Thread Terry Blanton
No, Harry it really does not.  No more than it matters why cold fusion
works.  I was merely responding to a comment on this thread with my
own hair-brained ideas.

Regardless of *how* it works, the principles have now decided that
they must throw down the gauntlet.  Scrutiny is being brought to bear
from various reputable sources.  I just hope we fare better than Brian
Josephson with *our* heretical claims.

All test equipment has been calibrated, traceable to NIST.
Alternative verifications are prepared.  And here come da judge(s).  A
60 day clock is ticking.  Watch this space.  The evidence can not be
sequestered.  Watch this space for any advance notices.  :-)

Terry

On Feb 1, 2008 3:03 PM, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 1/2/2008 11:30 AM, Terry Blanton wrote:

  On Jan 31, 2008 5:39 PM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  A regular poster to Vo, who will remain unnamed, may
  want to chime-in with an appropriate anecdote here,
  about a magnetic motor being developed which shows a
  much greater dT than what JLN has shown... or not.
 
  Odd, I just finished discussing this topic with a colleague less than
  one hour ago.  There is a lot of discussion on the web these days
  about permanent magnets and work.  There is no question that a
  permanent magnet can perform work; but, there is a great deal of
  discussion about whether there can be a net energy gain in any
  magnetic cycle.  If indeed there is a net energy gain in any permanent
  magnetic cycle from whence does this energy come?

 Does it really matter?
 I mean shouldn't we be more concerned with the _effects_ of energy
 production and distribution rather than trying to balance the energy books
 all the time.

 Harry



  Soon, I hope to be placed in contact with Horst Stormer (1998 Nobel
  physics - fractional quantum hall effect) to discuss the defense of a
  European patent application for such a magnetic cycle.  I actually
  used Hotson's first treatise as a talking point for the electron being
  capable of acting as a negative entropy pump.  I am hoping that Dr.
  Stormer can provide some insight as to the physical structure of the
  electron (or all fermions for that matter).
 
  It is conjectured at this time that a net energy gain in a magnetic
  cycle may come from the angular momentum of half-integer spin
  particles.  A seriously outlandish idea is that a negative energy
  photon is moved from beyond the zero energy point into our 3 space.
  However, it would explain some experimental evidence of which I am not
  presently at liberty to discuss.
 
  Terry
 





[Vo]:some experiments completed

2008-02-01 Thread FZNIDARSIC
EXPERIMENTS COMPLETED THROUGH JAN 31, 08
 

I got called back to work in Charlotte next week. What happened to my  
promised break?  I will have no more time to conduct experiments.  I  completed 
the 
following in January.
 
Added Powdered Nickel to heavy water.  Stimulated the suspension with  a 
laser pencil.  No anomalous thermal energy was detected.
 
Added nano colloid gold to heavy water.  Stimulated the suspension  with a 
laser pencil.  No anomalous thermal energy was detected.
 

Loaded a nickel wire with heavy water through electrolysis.  This  wire was 
connected in a series loop with a radio frequency  turning  capacitor.  I 
salvaged this capacitor form an old multiband radio quite a  few years ago.  
The 
capacitor is a fine piece of craftsmanship.One side of the loop was 
grounded 
and connected to the cathode of an  electrolysis power supply  The anode was 
connected to the + connection of  the power supply. I stimulated the tuned 
circuit with  sparks from an automotive spark coil. I did this at a rate of 
200 sparks per  second with a square wave coil driving circuit.  I observed the 
waveform on  an oscilloscope.  The circuit rang in a range for 5 to 50 
megacycles  depending on the tuning capacitor was adjusted and jumped  You have 
to 
make  sure the ground and the circuit is tight or you may damage the scope with 
sparks  of  high voltage.  No anomalous  RF energy was detected.
 
EXPERIMENT NOT COMPLETED
 
The last experiment with a palladium wire.  I did not have the  wire.  The 
experiment requires an 6 inch length of very thin wire.
 

Its easy to theorize about cold fusion.  It is even easier to  reject it.  It 
is difficult to produce a positive experimental  verification.
 
I wish Ed would repeat the last experiment with a palladium wire.  Ed  if you 
want to do this I can send you my hand  built coil sparking   device.  You 
can also drive a spark coil through a two  stage  transistor amplifier.  The  
input to the transistors is a square wave  signal generator.   You have to 
boost 
the signal generators output  current by a factor of 100 to drive the coil.
 

Frank Z



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Re: [Vo]:some experiments completed

2008-02-01 Thread Edmund Storms
Thanks for the offer, Frank. However, I have my hands full exploring the 
radiation produced by gas discharge. The beauty of this method is that 
the radiation gives a window into the process and mechanism. Once this 
understanding is achieved, it will be easy to predict what will work and 
what won't, without guessing.


Regards,Ed

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


EXPERIMENTS COMPLETED THROUGH JAN 31, 08
 

I got called back to work in Charlotte next week. What happened to my 
promised break?  I will have no more time to conduct experiments.  I 
completed the following in January.
 
Added Powdered Nickel to heavy water.  Stimulated the suspension with a 
laser pencil.  No anomalous thermal energy was detected.
 
Added nano colloid gold to heavy water.  Stimulated the suspension with 
a laser pencil.  No anomalous thermal energy was detected.
 

Loaded a nickel wire with heavy water through electrolysis.  This wire 
was connected in a series loop with a radio frequency  turning 
capacitor.  I salvaged this capacitor form an old multiband radio quite 
a few years ago.  The capacitor is a fine piece of craftsmanship.   One 
side of the loop was grounded and connected to the cathode of an 
electrolysis power supply  The anode was connected to the + connection 
of the power supply. I stimulated the tuned circuit with sparks from 
an automotive spark coil. I did this at a rate of 200 sparks per second 
with a square wave coil driving circuit.  I observed the waveform on an 
oscilloscope.  The circuit rang in a range for 5 to 50 megacycles 
depending on the tuning capacitor was adjusted and jumped  You have to 
make sure the ground and the circuit is tight or you may damage the 
scope with sparks of  high voltage.  No anomalous  RF energy was detected.
 
EXPERIMENT NOT COMPLETED
 
The last experiment with a palladium wire.  I did not have the wire.  
The experiment requires an 6 inch length of very thin wire.
 

Its easy to theorize about cold fusion.  It is even easier to reject 
it.  It is difficult to produce a positive experimental verification.
 
I wish Ed would repeat the last experiment with a palladium wire.  Ed if 
you want to do this I can send you my hand  built coil sparking  
device.  You can also drive a spark coil through a two  stage transistor 
amplifier.  The  input to the transistors is a square wave signal 
generator.   You have to boost the signal generators output current by a 
factor of 100 to drive the coil.
 


Frank Z




Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL 
Music. 
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Re: [Vo]:Richard Boyland UFO newsletter

2008-02-01 Thread Standing Bear
On Wednesday 30 January 2008 10:26, OrionWorks wrote:
 Thomas sez:
 
   I didn't notice the date, wouldn't it be great if The Others did show
  up, in mass, on election day? OTOH, they have shown up, Phoenix being a
  classic case in point, and the main stream press just ignored it.
 
  Given the source of this story, I'm sure that the author is serious.
  This dovetails with reports that I heard on C to C AM about the
  sightings of huge craft. Then the military showed up and claimed they
  were experimental craft and that they were dropping flares. Like they
  would operate experimental aircraft or drop flares over a city!
 
 
 When it comes to UFO  abduction opinions such as those recently
 expressed by Dr. Boyland, it is probably wise to seek a second
 opinion.
 
 Just to clarify an important but often (IMO) intentionally misdirected
 matter, the military most certainly did NOT drop flairs over the city
 of Phoenix. They dropped their flairs beyond a mountain range. This
 was irrefutably established when a video specialist superimposed a
 video of the flairs taken the evening of the UFO flap with day time
 imagery taken at the same location. In the day time video the distant
 mountain range was clearly visible. When both videos were superimposed
 on top of each other one can clearly determine how the flairs
 systematically disappeared - as they slowly floated down and dropped
 below the distant mountain range.
 
 Regarding (intentional and/or unintentional) obfuscation and
 misdirection of the UFO facts, whenever the Phoenix UFO incident is
 continuously brought up in the media the famous video clip of the
 distant military flair drop tends to be the only imagery shown to the
 public, imagery that was clearly established, scientifically, to have
 been the result of military maneuvers. IMO, it's not due to some
 nefarious attempt to show this video to intentionally inject
 additional disinformation  misdirection of the facts. It's due to the
 fact that the population in general remains incredibly ignorant of the
 actual facts, ESPECIALLY the news media. The news media out of
 laziness just shows stock footage, whatever they can scrounge up from
 their library of UFO footage.
 
 Meanwhile, hundreds of Phoenix residences clearly witnessed something
 extraordinary, something exotic flying quietly through the evening
 skies that evening, something that was far less prosaic than the
 run-of-the-mill dropped military flairs activity. This was recently
 confirmed on the Larry King Live show by the then AZ Governer,
 Symington, who at the time of the incident tried his best to downplay
 the situation in order to prevent what he personally feared might turn
 into a panic among some of his constituents. .
 
 Move along... Move along... nothing to see here.
 
 I gather the object was very large, black for the most part,
 triangular shaped, and opaque in the sense that it blocked out
 starlight as it flew over the gazing eyes of astonished witnesses,
 including the eyes of Governor Symington. It would appear that no one
 got a decent photograph of the object. This is understandable since
 the object was opaque, and it was in the evening.
 
 Regards
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 www.OrionWorks.com
 www.zazzle.com/orionworks
 
Remember that incident.  It was described in the press that would print the 
story as a 'boomerang shaped ship of immense size, probably a half a mile
long.  Inasmuch as it obscured stars and was witnessed by thousands, 
convoluted reasoning calling it a so called 'projection' strains credibility.  
We don't have the equipment to 'project' something like that.  That kind
of 'projection' would be like a 'Star Trek' 'hologram' inasmuch as it imitated
a solid object, the ship!  A disinformation campaign that stupid that was
allowed to pass without serious public challenge smacks of government
coverup with media participation.  Most folks would know a dropping flare
from a light that showed slow steady controlled movement across the sky.  As 
for large accelerations, a space compression and expansion technology
could have effectively translated that ship without it having to accelerate
within its reference frame, circumventing Einstein.ooops did I say
some kind of 'heresy' to the worshipers of that fella.  Incidentally that
kind of movement would also circumvent inertia.  Neat way to travel.
Now we should work on THAT instead of trying to lie to people.  But
then again maybe we ARE working on just that. 
  The public seems to be its own worst enemy in these cases.  Most read
the stories, then turned to the tawdry capers of the likes of Paris Hilton
or somebody like her, as she had not made her mark on the world yet
when that incident happened.  Like any other story it had its fifteen minutes 
of fame and then sunk out of sight and out of mind.   Most of these 
visitations sound like we are on somebody's tour group itinerary.  Here
lets see the aboriginals in their natural state.   Most involve 

[Vo]:OT: NASA to beam Beatles tune into space

2008-02-01 Thread Harry Veeder
Speaking of aliens...
Harry


NASA to beam Beatles tune into space
'Send my love to the aliens,' says McCartney

Last Updated: Friday, February 1, 2008 | 11:12 AM ET CBC News

U.S. space agency NASA plans to send a Beatles hit across the universe on
Monday, saying it is the first song ever to be beamed directly into deep
space.

The song chosen is, appropriately, Across the Universe, and it will be sent
out 40 years to the day after it was recorded.

The track will be transmitted through the Deep Space Network, an
international array of antennas that supports space exploration missions, at
7 p.m. ET on Feb. 4.

The network will direct the song toward Polaris, the North Star, 431 light
years away. The event marks the 50th anniversary of NASA and the 45th
anniversary of the Deep Space Network.

Former Beatle Paul McCartney sent a message of congratulations to the space
agency, adding Send my love to the aliens. All the best, Paul.

John Lennon's widow Yoko Ono also hailed the achievement. I see that this
is the beginning of the new age in which we will communicate with billions
of planets across the universe, she said.

It's not the first time NASA has beamed up a Beatles tune. In 2005 McCartney
performed the song Good Day Sunshine during a concert that was transmitted
to the International Space Station.

Here Comes the Sun, Ticket to Ride and A Hard Day's Night have also been
played to wake astronaut crews in orbit.

The public around the world has been invited to participate in the event by
simultaneously playing the song at the same time it is transmitted by NASA.