[Vo]:Jesse Ventura on 9/11

2008-09-14 Thread thomas malloy
Vortexians; I'm not a big fan of Jesse Ventura. We did elect him governor of Minnesota, and he is an ex Navy Seal, Vietnam Veteran, Demolition Expert and an avid spokesperson for 911 Truth. IMHO, Jesse the candidate (successor to Jesse the talk show host) promised one thing, and Jesse the

Re: [Vo]:Jesse Ventura on 9/11

2008-09-14 Thread leaking pen
And this has the FUCK to do with science? seriously people, its been bad enough on this list, but now we're just scraping the bottom of teh barrel. On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:04 AM, thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vortexians; I'm not a big fan of Jesse Ventura. We did elect him

[Vo]:Quantum physics obsolete?

2008-09-14 Thread David Jonsson
Have you seenQuantum mechanical ground state of hydrogen obtained from classical electrodynamics Daniel C. Cole, and Yi Zou

Re: [Vo]:Quantum physics obsolete?

2008-09-14 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy David, Key words.. probability, 2003. That's water under the bridge. Or as the leaders of the City of Houston determined yesterday...after hurricane Ike took out the lights, flooded the basement and blew the house down, shutting down the 4th largest city in the USA... Get the mop and

Re: [Vo]:gravity = pdf

2008-09-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Harry Veeder wrote: The most common approach to the problem was to postulate an aether which carried the EM waves, and then try to patch things up so that Maxwell's equations would still work. This approach had the large advantage that it did *not* require reforming the common view of

[Vo]:Someone Is Shooting at Us

2008-09-14 Thread Terry Blanton
http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008/10sep_nakedeye2.htm?list63379 Naked-Eye Gamma-ray Burst Aimed Directly at Earth 09.10.2008 Sept. 10, 2008: Astronomers announced today that a remarkable gamma-ray burst visible to the human eye earlier this year came from an explosive stellar jet

[Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/evolutionists_flock_to_darwin I brought my baby to touch the wall, so that the power of Darwin can purify her genetic makeup of undesirable inherited traits, said Darlene Freiberg, one among a growing crowd assembled here to see the mysterious stain, which

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread David Jonsson
On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/evolutionists_flock_to_darwin I brought my baby to touch the wall, so that the power of Darwin can purify her genetic makeup of undesirable inherited traits, said Darlene Freiberg,

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes, it is crazy. Such events are a sanity test of the people reacting. Insanity and delusion are real pathologies of the mind that are frequently ignored when such events are interpreted. People want to believe so badly in magic that they will see whatever supports this need. At this

Re: [Vo]:NIST caught in huge Lie

2008-09-14 Thread Jones Beene
- Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence Whether any of my comments apply to WTC7 is not clear, as its collapse looked rather different on video. That is becasue it was completely different in the details, and your understanding of the first two as being freefall is incorrect,

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread David Jonsson
I was referring to the inconsistency of making personal worship of an impersonalists. It is the same problem that classically, historically, and commonly are performed by those who worship Buddha as a person. Personal worship is in itself and performed to suitable personalities not bad at all. If

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread Jones Beene
You guys are not paying attention to the source of this story- 'The Onion' is spoof-central. (Terry is teary-eyed LOL)

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread Edmund Storms
Yes, I understand your point and I agree. Not just Buddha is worshiped but Christ and many of the saints as well. This is another human need, i.e. to identify with the person rather than with the idea. Unfortunately, this creates great trouble when the identification is with the

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread Harry Veeder
I am not sure identification with an idea is necessarily better. Some ideas, for better or for worse, can encourage or impede certain kinds of research. The power of identity can be harnessed for good or bad. Harry on 14/9/08 11:55 am, Edmund Storms at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, I

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread Edmund Storms
Ah so, now my faith in the unique role of religion in creating delusion is no long in jeopardy. :-) Ed On Sep 14, 2008, at 9:47 AM, Jones Beene wrote: You guys are not paying attention to the source of this story- 'The Onion' is spoof-central. (Terry is teary-eyed LOL)

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread Edmund Storms
Of course some ideas are bad. But if they are the focus, they can be rejected. In contrast, if the person is the focus, that person can have a rich assortment of ideas, some good and some bad. All are accepted regardless of their quality when the person is the focus. For example, people

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread temalloy1
The last I heard the Onion was a comedy magazine. Quoting David Jonsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Terry Blanton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/evolutionists_flock_to_darwin I brought my baby to touch the wall, so that the power of

Re: [Vo]:NIST caught in huge Lie

2008-09-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jones Beene wrote: - Original Message From: Stephen A. Lawrence Whether any of my comments apply to WTC7 is not clear, as its collapse looked rather different on video. That is becasue it was completely different in the details, and your understanding of the first two as

Re: [Vo]:gravity = pdf

2008-09-14 Thread Harry Veeder
on 14/9/08 8:25 am, Stephen A. Lawrence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: The most common approach to the problem was to postulate an aether which carried the EM waves, and then try to patch things up so that Maxwell's equations would still work. This approach had the

Re: [Vo]:gravity = pdf

2008-09-14 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Harry Veeder wrote: on 14/9/08 8:25 am, Stephen A. Lawrence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: The most common approach to the problem was to postulate an aether which carried the EM waves, and then try to patch things up so that Maxwell's equations would still work. This

Re: [Vo]:gravity = pdf

2008-09-14 Thread Harry Veeder
on 14/9/08 4:19 pm, Stephen A. Lawrence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: on 14/9/08 8:25 am, Stephen A. Lawrence at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: The most common approach to the problem was to postulate an aether which carried the EM waves, and then

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread Remi Cornwall
Sounds like a personality cult. Mind you Downe House is just down the road from Biggin Hill (where I work when not at the university) and about 50 miles away on the other side of the river Thames around the river Crouch and Blackwater estuaries it is alleged that the Beagle's timbers are recycled

Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread Terry Blanton
DARN YOUR SOCKS! This could have been the best troll since the NIST report! Terry cutting more bait On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 10:47 AM, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You guys are not paying attention to the source of this story- 'The Onion' is spoof-central. (Terry is teary-eyed LOL)

[Vo]:Evolutionists flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread thomas malloy
The last I heard the Onion was a comedy magazine. Quoting David Jonsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] javascript:open_compose_win('to=david%40djk.se');: [Hide Quoted Text] http://webmail.usfamily.net/web/mail/message.php?index=13msguid=m.2008091414102185100013_d# On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 4:53 PM,

Re: [Vo]:gravity = pdf

2008-09-14 Thread Remi Cornwall
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v454/n7206/abs/nature07121.html It's dawning on the mainstream gradually. This is what I meant by fundamental science (and useful, truthful science) being done on a shoestring on a bench top.

RE: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin Image

2008-09-14 Thread Remi Cornwall
Duh, that doesn't sound right... They must have meant 1st cousin 9 times removed a generation being about 20 years. -Original Message- From: Remi Cornwall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 September 2008 23:09 To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Evolutionists Flock to Darwin