[Vo]:Under our feet
Hi, Most of the Earth is composed of Silicon dioxide combined with other metal oxides, frequently in the form of silicates. Consider the nuclear reaction:- Si28 + 2 O16 - 4 H + Fe56 +0.478 MeV If this occasionally became possible near the core, then it would slowly convert abundant SiO2 into Iron, causing the core to grow at the expense of the rest, while releasing both heat and Hydrogen, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin . Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
[Vo]:Off topic biological problem
My water tank broke about 3 months ago. A new one was put in. After that I noticed what appeared to be bite marks on my legs. Some nights I got 20 or more bites. I thought that bugs came into the apartment while the tank was being installed. Maybe they left the door open. Maybe bed bugs from the next apartment. Yes, thay can live in an upscale neighborhood. Maybe there were bugs in my car or office. I cleaned vacuumed, put out sticky traps, slept on a sticky tape enclosed rubber batter, spread diatomaceous earth around, washed my clothes in bleach and ruined them, put dubble sided sticky tape in a square on the cealing above my bed, and had the exterminator come in. He sprayed the apartment with Stera Fab. The problem persisted. I searched and found no bugs except for a few ear wigs. I even got up at night with a bright flashlight and looked for them. I was tormented. Upon the advice of Ron Anderson, I had the temperature turned up on my hot water tank. The results were immediate. The bite marks went away. Apparently in the combination hot water / heating tanks bacteria can grow if the temperature is set to low. Iron from the failure of the last tank my have contributed to the problem. Maybe there is something going on in Lake Norman. I am now happy again. The water is a bit hot but I’ll leave it go for now. I hope the new tank does not overheat and I will g o through the same thing again. If I could open the utility door I could adjust the thing myself. What next? Dont turn down your tank too much. Frank Znidarsic
[Vo]:ref QED
The reason that the electron does not spiral into the nucleus has been a fundamental mystery. It is currently accepted that the angular momentum cannot be lees that h/2pie.? This has been accepted because the result agrees with experimental spectra.? Puthoff came up with some ideas about the emission and absorption of zero point energy.? I believe that I have solved this problem.? The orbits of the atoms exist as point of electromagnetic and gravitomagnetic accessibility.? The ground state orbit is a point where the transitional frequency ( 1.094 megahertz-meters ) equals the natural frequency of the electron. ? ? ? I have a paper coming out on this in Infinite Energy in Sept of 09.? I hope the paper proves to be epic. ? Frank Znidarsic
[Vo]:Several anniversary news items
Today is the 20th anniversary of the 1989 announcement of cold fusion. There are several news items about it, most of them negative I am sorry to say. Here is an example: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2009/03/dayintech_0323 - Jed
[Vo]:Red Letter Day
History in the re-making today - March 23, 2009, when the ACS (American Chemical Society) conference takes place in the birthplace of cold fusion, Salt Lake City UT on the 20th anniversary of its ill-fated announcement. In an alternative universe, somewhere in a more progressive galaxy, where society rose up to meet the challenge of finding scientific truth in the face of entrenched negativity from the mainstream, millions of homes are being heated cheaply with a perfected version of the LENR water-heater (at least in my new SciFi novel). Unfortunately, here on a wayward planet formerly ruled and nearly bankrupted by a Confederacy of hawkish Dunces - we cannot quip you've come a long way, baby ... more like you've come the wrong way, baby
[Vo]:Kalte Fusion und die Zukunft
Article in German (obviously) by Haiko Lietz: http://www.heise.de/tp/r4/artikel/29/29969/1.html You can translate it with remarkable accuracy here: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Ftp%2Fr4%2Fartikel%2F29%2F29969%2F1.htmlsl=detl=enhl=enie=UTF-8 - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Off topic biological problem
You can adjust it yourself, and there are hot water bacteria that will also grow, which is why its wiser to heat cold tap water than to use hot water from teh taop for drinking and such. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:19 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: My water tank broke about 3 months ago. A new one was put in. After that I noticed what appeared to be bite marks on my legs. Some nights I got 20 or more bites. I thought that bugs came into the apartment while the tank was being installed. Maybe they left the door open. Maybe bed bugs from the next apartment. Yes, thay can live in an upscale neighborhood. Maybe there were bugs in my car or office. I cleaned vacuumed, put out sticky traps, slept on a sticky tape enclosed rubber batter, spread diatomaceous earth around, washed my clothes in bleach and ruined them, put dubble sided sticky tape in a square on the cealing above my bed, and had the exterminator come in. He sprayed the apartment with Stera Fab. The problem persisted. I searched and found no bugs except for a few ear wigs. I even got up at night with a bright flashlight and looked for them. I was tormented. Upon the advice of Ron Anderson, I had the temperature turned up on my hot water tank. The results were immediate. The bite marks went away. Apparently in the combination hot water / heating tanks bacteria can grow if the temperature is set to low. Iron from the failure of the last tank my have contributed to the problem. Maybe there is something going on in Lake Norman. I am now happy again. The water is a bit hot but I’ll leave it go for now. I hope the new tank does not overheat and I will go through the same thing again. If I could open the utility door I could adjust the thing myself. What next? Dont turn down your tank too much. Frank Znidarsic The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!
[Vo]:Cheap cars (from Tata)
The World's Cheapest Car Debuts in India http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1887070,00.html?cnn=yes http://tinyurl.com/ccjjx8 Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks
[Vo]:The ghost of free energy
The ghost of free energy by Jon Cartwright See: http://www.groundreport.com/Health_and_Science/The-ghost-of-free-energy - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Red Letter Day
Your novel, or one you are reading? I am reading Variable Star published posthumously by Heinlein and they have a ZPE drive! Terry On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: History in the re-making today - March 23, 2009, when the ACS (American Chemical Society) conference takes place in the birthplace of cold fusion, Salt Lake City UT on the 20th anniversary of its ill-fated announcement. In an alternative universe, somewhere in a more progressive galaxy, where society rose up to meet the challenge of finding scientific truth in the face of entrenched negativity from the mainstream, millions of homes are being heated cheaply with a perfected version of the LENR water-heater (at least in my new SciFi novel). Unfortunately, here on a wayward planet formerly ruled and nearly bankrupted by a Confederacy of hawkish Dunces - we cannot quip you've come a long way, baby ... more like you've come the wrong way, baby
Re: [Vo]:Off topic biological problem
Frank Znidarsic wrote: Iron from the failure of the last tank my have contributed to the problem. Before they put the new tank in they should have flushed out the pipes. I got gobs of crud out of the pipes when they did that. Also, once or twice a year you should turn off the heater, attach a hose to the faucet at the bottom of the tank, and dump out one or two tank-fulls of water. This should wash out some of the sand and mud that settles at the bottom of the tank. It should improve heating performance and make the hot water more hygienic. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Off topic biological problem
leaking pen wrote:
You can adjust it yourself, and there are hot water bacteria that will
also grow,
And they make quite a stink when they really get going.
Hot water smells like a fart ('scuse me, I can't think of a 'polite'
word for it), cold water smells fine... totally weird, never heard of
it until our hot water heater got infected. I was convinced we had
some strange problem with the drains until we had a guy from the gas
company come in to look at the hot water heater. And he looked at it,
sadly, and explained about superchlorination and how it's what to do to
get rid of the bugs, but then he added that they'll probably just come
back anyway...
If you're on town water, with chlorine in the water, I'd guess that you
most likely will never encounter this.
which is why its wiser to heat cold tap water than to use
hot water from teh taop for drinking and such.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:19 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote:
My water tank broke about 3 months ago. A new one was put in. After that I
noticed what appeared to be bite marks on my legs. Some nights I got 20 or
more bites. I thought that bugs came into the apartment while the tank was
being installed. Maybe they left the door open. Maybe bed bugs from the
next apartment. Yes, thay can live in an upscale neighborhood. Maybe there
were bugs in my car or office. I cleaned vacuumed, put out sticky traps,
slept on a sticky tape enclosed rubber batter, spread diatomaceous earth
around, washed my clothes in bleach and ruined them, put dubble sided sticky
tape in a square on the cealing above my bed, and had the exterminator come
in. He sprayed the apartment with Stera Fab. The problem persisted. I
searched and found no bugs except for a few ear wigs. I even got up at
night with a bright flashlight and looked for them. I was tormented. Upon
the advice of Ron Anderson, I had the temperature turned up on my hot water
tank. The results were immediate. The bite marks went away. Apparently in
the combination hot water / heating tanks bacteria can grow if the
temperature is set to low. Iron from the failure of the last tank my have
contributed to the problem. Maybe there is something going on in Lake
Norman. I am now happy again. The water is a bit hot but I’ll leave it go
for now. I hope the new tank does not overheat and I will go through the
same thing again. If I could open the utility door I could adjust the
thing myself. What next? Dont turn down your tank too much.
Frank Znidarsic
The Average US Credit Score is 692. See Yours in Just 2 Easy Steps!
[Vo]:ACS press release
See: http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2009-03/acs-fr031709.php
Re: [Vo]:Several anniversary news items
hahah, i am very amused. today, without me or the label having any knowledge of the cold fusion announcement from 1989, a new mp3 ep came out called Cold Trail EP.. fun synchronicities:) yours, esa On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Today is the 20th anniversary of the 1989 announcement of cold fusion. There are several news items about it, most of them negative I am sorry to say. Here is an example: http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2009/03/dayintech_0323 - Jed -- -- a hundred million dollar gamble into alternative energy research in the form of stipends and donations from the worldwide population could completely alter the face of the planet.
[Vo]:Mizuno reports from ACS
I am in Atlanta. Mizuno called me from the ACS conference in Salt Lake City to say hello. He is going to present this afternoon. He says there are many people attending the sessions, including young people. He says Kitamura et al. independently replicated Arata, and will report on his findings today. They used better calorimetry than Arata did. The abstract is here: http://oasys2.confex.com/acs/237nm/techprogram/P1218224.HTM Copy of abstract (which Steve I already uploaded): Deuterium gas charging experiments with Pd powders for excess heat evolution Akira Kitamura,, Takayoshi Nohmi, Yu Sasaki, Tatsuya Yamaguchi, Akira Taniike, Akito Takahashi, Reiko Seto, and Yushi Fujita. Graduate School of Maritime Sciences, Kobe University, 5-1-1 Fukaeminamimachi, Higashinadaku, Kobe, 658-0022, Japan Technova Inc, 1-1-1 Uchisaiwaicho, Chiyodaku, Tokyo, 100-0011, Japan We have started a series of deuterium (and hydrogen) gas charging experiments with Pd nano-powders to study possible heat evolution and D (or H)-loading characteristics by using a revised Arata-type twin system. The twin system is made of identically designed A1 and A2 systems, in each of which an inner gas-charging cell with flow calorimeter and an outer vacuum chamber are set up. The A1 system is used for D-gas foreground run, and the A2 system is for the H-gas blank run. Our first data with two commercially available Pd powders (0.1 micron Pd particles and Pd-black) are already meaningful. Experiments with Pd-black sample gave 2.6 kJ/g-Pd excess heat for the second phase of 1,300 minutes operation and D/Pd=0.85 for the first phase (about 100 min interval from start) with zero D-gas pressure. No excess heat with H-gas charging was seen with H/Pd=0.78. Experiments with 0.1 micron Pd powders gave D/Pd =0.45 for the first phase and much less excess heat for the second phase. We are extending experiments for nano-fabricated Pd samples to be reported at the meeting. In situ radiation monitors are for neutron and gamma-ray. Elemental analysis of before/after samples is done by PIXE. He detection will be also tried. Here is a recent paper from this group about an Iwamura replication: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/YamaguchiTinvestigat.pdf - Jed
[Vo]:Science News: 'Cold Fusion' Rebirth? New Evidence For Existence Of Controversial Energy Source
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090323110450.htm
Re: [Vo]:ref QED
In reply to fznidar...@aol.com's message of Mon, 23 Mar 2009 08:43:37 -0400: Hi Frank, [snip] The reason that the electron does not spiral into the nucleus has been a fundamental mystery. It is currently accepted that the angular momentum cannot be lees that h/2pie.? This has been accepted because the result agrees with experimental spectra.? Puthoff came up with some ideas about the emission and absorption of zero point energy.? I believe that I have solved this problem.? The orbits of the atoms exist as point of electromagnetic and gravitomagnetic accessibility.? The ground state orbit is a point where the transitional frequency ( 1.094 megahertz-meters ) equals the natural frequency of the electron. [snip] I think the electron doesn't spiral into the nucleus because it doesn't have enough angular momentum to create a photon, hence it can't radiate, which means it can't lose energy. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
[Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex
. . . . Alright, I don't really know how to start this, so I won't. I'll just start hacking away into it. What's the deal? Now maybe I'm reading this wrong, but there's a bias it seems against any results, theoretical or experimental, that have a superluminal result. What's so %^$%# bad about FTL? My tax dollars can pay for scientists (so-called) who are not worth the gunpowder it would take to blow them to hell, to come up with a bunch of unprovable theoretical/religious garbage, and everyone loves this. I assume this is because it takes some motivation for these people to get off their asses to do an experiment. So fine. BTW, the scientist I am thinking of is Lawrence Krauss. A dumbass, who believes that conjecturing that looking through a telescope will alter the universe is a good bit o' science. While, of course, killing the Breakthrough Propulsion Physics program (there's that hatred of FTL again...) You can publish about time travel. But you can't talk FTL, because it causes causality violations, and by extension, time travel. blink Does anyone besides me see how stupid this is? I will wager this: one day, we will figure out how to go faster than light (assuming the lazies are dead and out of our way). It will never, ever, result in a causality violation. You will just get there quicker. I'm not dragging Van Flandern into this, don't worry. I don't much go in for exploding planets. But someone ought to take note that there's a perfectly valid alternative for the disaster that is special relativity, as brought forth by Tangherlini. It isn't mathematically pretty. But neither is the mess that we currently accept. But you can't convince true believers of the religion of science. Debate one of these guys, listen to what they have to say. Then go to Sunday School, see what they have to say, and try to ask questions and debate. These people were cut from the same sheet of mylar. What's the point to all this? We don't know jack diddly squat. Not about God, about science, about the universe, about ourselves, about the climate and/or its change, etc. Trouble is, we can't *not* look for answers. But we must make sure we are finding answers, and not just making them and the story up as we go along. Next... Some scoundrel does an experiment, a real, actual experiment, and posts it to some list called Vortex. I guess scientific experimentation is still welcome on a list that . Currently it has evolved into a discussion on taboo physics reports and research. SKEPTICS BEWARE, the topics wander from Cold Fusion, to reports of excess energy in Free Energy devices, gravity generation and detection, reports of theoretically impossible phenomena, and all sorts of supposedly crackpot claims Two people replied to the thread (three if you count Horace's suggestion [and a very good one too!] made in a different thread), no discussion except off list. Robin van Spaandonk, let me publicly thank you for letting me discuss the experiment with you. I appreciate it very, very much. But the rest of you, with the aforementioned exceptions, chose to duke out politics, religion, and assorted nonscientific whatsit. It makes me wonder why Bill Beatty doesn't show up around here much any more. Is he just disgusted with this? Maybe my science is just amateurish? Wait a sec...oh yes. This list is directly connected to a site called AMASCI.COM. Alright, if Morton's experiment (which I seem to have shot down in my own research, will post more if any interest) is not worth discussing, let's talk cold fusion. What can I do? I'm giving no one any money. The opportunities have been essentially wasted for two decades. Positive here, negatives here, uh, need better calorimeter here, let's look for ash here, to burn/recombine or not burn/recombine, x-rays here? Neutrons? Er, what's the theory behind it? /Can we build a damn thing that will make a cup of warm coffee or tea?/ If not, why not??? I'll take a moment to _really_ stir the pot here, and publicly thank Grok. He's the only one (unless I missed a message) who responded to this. Quote, How come no one ever answers this oft-made reasonable request with a working device..? The lack of any known response is what is giving all the skeptix a field-day. Now that all this is outta the way, who wants to warm up their soldering irons, throw 'the main switch,' pull some vacuum, slam some electrons, electrolytically fuse some stuff, reactionlessly impel, superluminally signal, test some claims, throw some sparks, have a Martini*** at the end of the day and say boy howdy, that was some fun, regardless of the outcome? Am I gonna have to go buy a video camera to prove that I do this crap? Or at least try? ***Perfect, of course. --Kyle
Re: [Vo]:Fear and Loathing in Las Vortex
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Kyle Mcallister kyle_mcallis...@yahoo.com mounted the barricade and roared out: /Can we build a damn thing that will make a cup of warm coffee or tea?/ If not, why not??? I'll take a moment to _really_ stir the pot here, and publicly thank Grok. He's the only one (unless I missed a message) who responded to this. Quote, How come no one ever answers this oft-made reasonable request with a working device..? The lack of any known response is what is giving all the skeptix a field-day. Now that all this is outta the way, who wants to warm up their soldering irons, throw 'the main switch,' pull some vacuum, slam some electrons, electrolytically fuse some stuff, reactionlessly impel, superluminally signal, test some claims, throw some sparks, have a Martini*** at the end of the day and say boy howdy, that was some fun, regardless of the outcome? Am I gonna have to go buy a video camera to prove that I do this crap? Or at least try? Seems to me the most direct thing anyone could do at the moment, that wouldn't cost the family farm, would be to duplicate the work of this guy who's just successfully demonstrated Howard Johnson's 'HoJoRotor' (what I call it). AFAIC for a few hundred bux, *anyone* could get a rotor running for weex and months. And I could think of all manners of small loads that could be attached to the rotor *to do useful, demonstated work over the course of those many months*... Which IMO would do everything to dispell all skepticism over what exactly was going on with this device. Because how would anyone explain this amazing magnetic phenomenon, then..? Assuming it worx as advertized. ; - -- grok. - -- *** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *** * BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS MASS-MEDIA: * McNews: UNfair UNbalanced * * Get mediaworx for your group/Internet/pirate tv/radio station! * Critical endorsement only Most sites need donations *** * http://www.venezuelaenvideos.com Venezuela en Videos * * http://www.actupny.org/divatv DIVA TV * Che Guevara audio, songs * * http://www.sancristobal.cult.cu/sitios/Che/Index.HTM videos * * http://www.videonetwork.org i-Contact Video Network * * http://citizen.nfb.ca/onf/info?did=901 NFB film on Guatemala * * http://www.revolutionvideo.org Revolution Video * * http://www.revolutionvideo.org/alavio Grupo Alivio [Argentina] * ** Capitalism lives on borrowed time: the ultimate carry trade ** GPG fingerprint = 2E7F 2D69 4B0B C8D5 07E3 09C3 5E8D C4B4 461B B771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknIJNMACgkQXo3EtEYbt3EKzwCgvpLBM2YGOLMz3PauBkrDxIxk kBsAnRPWi7S3WGCUSbSWJEepy98HeRIl =vChj -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Vo]:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090127131654.htm
Dear Sir, If you replace the Tokamak hot fusion part of your concept reactor with a muon catalyzed fusion reactor, the whole becomes far more compact and cooler. It takes about 1 GeV on average to create a negative muon. Each such muon can catalyze about 100 D-T reactions, producing 100 14 MeV neutrons, each of which in turn can produce at least one 200 MeV fission reaction (and some neutrons may have enough energy left over to bring about further fission reactions, after inelastic scattering). That means you already have at least 20 GeV of energy out compared to 1 GeV input. In practice careful design can result in more than 100 fusion reactions per muon, and the fission reactions will also produce some fast neutrons which will also increase the output. IOW a 20 fold energy increase is conservative. Even taking into account a 33% conversion efficiency from heat to electricity, there is still at least a 6 fold gain (more if the waste heat can be put to productive use). The reactor can be cylindrical as in your design, with the D-T mix at the core, and the muons injected down the axis of the cylinder. This completely avoids all the problems of plasma containment, which is why it so much more compact. Not only would such a reactor burn sludge, it will also burn plutonium (left over from weapons), natural un-enriched uranium, depleted uranium, or even thorium (without conversion to U233). Since it is based on fast neutrons, it is better to use the actual metals rather than the oxides, as the oxygen would just act as an unwanted moderator. The core should be long and thin. The length ensures that all the muons are captured, and the small radius ensures that the neutrons are not appreciably slowed down by the D or T before leaving the core. Such a reactor would extend current Uranium based energy reserves by a factor of several hundred (taking the thorium into account). BTW, somewhere in the blanket you will need to add some Li to create more T for the fusion reactor. Potential problem:- I'm not sure how large the accelerator would need to be to create the muons, however I would suggest a free electron laser combined with a plasma to create a bench top accelerator (just guessing here). Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/Project.html
Re: [Vo]:http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090127131654.htm
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, mix...@bigpond.com mix...@bigpond.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Not only would such a reactor burn sludge, it will also burn plutonium (left over from weapons), natural un-enriched uranium, depleted uranium, or even thorium (without conversion to U233). Since it is based on fast neutrons, it is better to use the actual metals rather than the oxides, as the oxygen would just act as an unwanted moderator. I always knew there was a way to burn up all that fission waste product (million-year storage my hairy ass...) What about all the containment vessels and tubing and equipment damaged by neutron bombardment? That's some huge mass of junk by now, ain't it? - -- grok. - -- ** FULL-SPECTRUM DOMINANCE! *BOYCOTT BOURGEOIS* Get your news analysis * * MASS-MEDIA:* from the Best on the Web * Critical endorsement only Most sites need donations * http://www.radio4all.org/unwelcome Unwelcome Guests * * http://205.201.10.12:8000/ Blast Furnace Radio * * http://radio.portland.indymedia.org:8000/ Portland IndyMedia * * http://helix.kfai.org:8000/kfai-mp3-24M KFAI Minneapolis * * http://live.str3am.com:2850/ Radical Radio * * http://www.outfarpress.com/outfarpress/shortwave.shtml SW Report * DEATH TO NEOLIBERALISM ** GPG fingerprint = 2E7F 2D69 4B0B C8D5 07E3 09C3 5E8D C4B4 461B B771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknIMHgACgkQXo3EtEYbt3FvpwCgr1bgBVO6Ocea+WIqz/d92kvN B68An0IQxY8+JxeY0xzteRdLay29ht0Y =vM/x -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Vo]:Red Letter Day
Jones Beene wrote: Unfortunately, here on a wayward planet formerly ruled and nearly bankrupted by a Confederacy of hawkish Dunces - we cannot quip you've come a long way, baby ... more like you've come the wrong way, baby Just remember Jones, there really are people who want to take over the World, and an Oligarchy who has. --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
[Vo]:LENR makes the BBC headlines
BBC does LENR, see http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7959183.stm I sent this feedback, It's about time, there's only been 3000+ papers published, see lenr-canr.org --- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---
