[Vo]:the hell is this? __We're talking about a new field of science that's a hybrid between chemistry and physics.__

2009-03-25 Thread Esa Ruoho
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.a67cf72fe27770f9ec992da18169937d.a1show_article=1 Scientists in possible cold fusion breakthrough Mar 24 11:49 AM US/Eastern Researchers at a US Navy laboratory have unveiled what they say is significant evidence of cold fusion, a potential

[Vo]:A few more notes from Mizuno

2009-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Mizuno called me yesterday with a few more details about the presentations at the ACS conference. The paper by Kitamura (which I believe was presented by Takahashi) described a replication of Arata's older technique with the double structured cathode (DS cathode) and Pd-black. The Pd black

Re: [Vo]:A few more notes from Mizuno

2009-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
I forgot to mention -- A television production crew from the Asahi Television Corporation accompanied Mizuno to the ACS conference, and they filmed his presentation. (Maybe it was local stringers working for Asahi?) They are supposed to broadcast a segment about him in the near future. He

Re: [Vo]:the hell is this? __We're talking about a new field of science that's a hybrid between chemistry and physics.__

2009-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
I do not see any problem with Krivit's characterization of cold fusion. In a sense, all man-made nuclear systems are a hybrid of either chemical or mechanical systems plus nuclear power. In a bomb, a chemical reaction triggers a fission reaction which in turn triggers a fusion reaction. In a

Re: [Vo]:the hell is this? __We're talking about a new field of science that's a hybrid between chemistry and physics.__

2009-03-25 Thread Edmund Storms
Actually the issue is more complicated than Jed describes. Conventional belief is that the chemical environment has very little or no effect on whether a nuclear reaction will occur. The cold fusion process challenges this belief. Normally, nuclear processes require too much energy to

Re: [Vo]:the hell is this? __We're talking about a new field of science that's a hybrid between chemistry and physics.__

2009-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: Actually the issue is more complicated than Jed describes. I had in mind more of an analogy than a physical description. Plus I had in mind that some of the key breakthroughs in the Manhattan Project were in chemical explosives and the timing of triggering explosions,

Re: [Vo]:the hell is this? __We're talking about a new field of science that's a hybrid between chemistry and physics.__

2009-03-25 Thread leaking pen
To our knowledge, this is the first scientific report of the production of highly energetic neutrons from a LENR device, added the study's co-author in a statement. Really? REALLY really? On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote:

[Vo]:LENR-CANR.org traffic is up

2009-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
The press coverage of the ACS meeting and the 20th anniversary has increased the number of visits and downloads. Date, Downloads, Visits 03/19/2009 728519 03/20/2009 374568 03/21/2009 247406 03/22/2009 649494 03/23/2009 1,008 2,034

[Vo]:Frisone paper uploaded

2009-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Theory mavins with enquiring minds may want to see: Frisone, F. The Coulomb Barrier not Static in QED, A correction to the Theory by Preparata on the Phenomenon of Cold Fusion and Theoretical hypothesis. in ICCF-14 International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science. 2008.

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org traffic is up

2009-03-25 Thread Edmund Storms
It's interesting and rather gratifying that the ACS provided the press coverage and interest that the APS failed to do. Ed On Mar 25, 2009, at 12:49 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: The press coverage of the ACS meeting and the 20th anniversary has increased the number of visits and downloads.

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org traffic is up

2009-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Edmund Storms wrote: It's interesting and rather gratifying that the ACS provided the press coverage and interest that the APS failed to do. Yes. They did a bang up job. We owe Michael Bernstein our thanks. I hope that the skeptics are not bothering him. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:ref QED

2009-03-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:05 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I think the electron doesn't spiral into the nucleus because it doesn't have enough angular momentum to create a photon, hence it can't radiate, which means it can't lose energy. This argument must not be true. There is a finite

[Vo]:Fox News and CF

2009-03-25 Thread OrionWorks
Even Fox News sez: Navy Chemist May Have Rediscovered 'Cold Fusion' http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510589,00.html\ On the 20th anniversary of PF's announcement it's nice to see the amount of positive exposure that has has been coming out. Granted, not all of it is positive, but encouraging

[Vo]:Park's publication: Superstition

2009-03-25 Thread OrionWorks
Not sure if Robert Park's recent publication Superstition has been mention here or not. I saw a copy at Barns and Noble last week. http://www.amazon.com/Superstition-Science-Robert-L-Park/dp/0691133557/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1238011611sr=1-1 http://tinyurl.com/d6vzd5 I immediately flipped

Re: [Vo]:Fox News and CF

2009-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Remove backslash from URL: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510589,00.html I clicked on the natural science link here and found a mind-boggling article: Scientists: Animals Probably Enjoy Sex Too . . . Animals obviously hook up, at least during mating season. But do they like it?

Re: [Vo]:Park's publication: Superstition

2009-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Steven Vincent Johnson wrote: Not sure if Robert Park's recent publication Superstition has been mention here or not. I saw a copy at Barns and Noble last week. http://www.amazon.com/Superstition-Science-Robert-L-Park/dp/0691133557/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=booksqid=1238011611sr=1-1 Ah, but a

Re: [Vo]:Fox News and CF

2009-03-25 Thread OrionWorks
Jed sez: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510589,00.html I clicked on the natural science link here and found a mind-boggling article: Scientists: Animals Probably Enjoy Sex Too . . . Animals obviously hook up, at least during mating season. But do they like it? According to

Re: [Vo]:Fox News and CF

2009-03-25 Thread grok
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As the smoke cleared, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com mounted the barricade and roared out: Remove backslash from URL: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510589,00.html I clicked on the natural science link here and found a mind-boggling

RE: [Vo]:ref QED

2009-03-25 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Horace Heffner In fact, some molecular orbitals exist in a figure 8 configuration, where the center of the 8 is the nucleus, thus guaranteeing constant nuclear traverses. [JB:] Understanding the figure 8 configuration is perhaps the most important basic

Re: [Vo]:Fox News and CF

2009-03-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks wrote: Scientists: Animals Probably Enjoy Sex Too . . . Animals obviously hook up, at least during mating season. But do they like it? Do they like it Well... I can only go by my own observations. This is getting seriously off topic, but perhaps someone should fund a

Re: [Vo]:Frisone paper uploaded

2009-03-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:56:45 -0400: Hi, [snip] Theory mavins with enquiring minds may want to see: Frisone, F. The Coulomb Barrier not Static in QED, A correction to the Theory by Preparata on the Phenomenon of Cold Fusion and Theoretical hypothesis. in

Re: [Vo]:ref QED

2009-03-25 Thread Harry Veeder
Instead of asking why the electron doesn't spiral into the nucleus, perhaps one should question the law(s) that lead one to expect it should spiral into nucleus. The mathematical strategy of quantizing energy saves the law(s) and avoids the latter question. Harry

Re: [Vo]:ref QED

2009-03-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:46:46 -0800: Hi, [snip] On Mar 23, 2009, at 1:05 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: I think the electron doesn't spiral into the nucleus because it doesn't have enough angular momentum to create a photon, hence it can't radiate,

Re: RE: [Vo]:ref QED

2009-03-25 Thread Harry Veeder
- Original Message - From: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 4:50 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:ref QED -Original Message- From: Horace HeffnerIn fact, some molecular orbitals exist in a figure 8 configuration, where the center of the 8 is the nucleus,

Re: [Vo]:ref QED

2009-03-25 Thread thomas malloy
Jones Beene wrote: -Original Message- From: Horace Heffner In fact, some molecular orbitals exist in a figure 8 configuration, where the center of the 8 is the nucleus, thus guaranteeing constant nuclear traverses. [JB:] Understanding the figure 8 configuration is

Re: [Vo]:Fox News and CF

2009-03-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:14:41 -0400: Hi, [snip] Remove backslash from URL: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,510589,00.html [snip] It isn't clear to me why a triple track necessarily implies energetic *neutrons*. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk