Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-22 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote: That was my initial objection also, I believe that *can* happen. I also know that sometimes when a plasma is turned off the charges (electrons anyway) can be propelled into the environment. Tesla found this and so have most people who have played with

Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-22 Thread Michel Jullian
Yes this makes sense, John's something decidedly more instant which can easily make it through insulators is most probably a plasma turnoff generated EM pulse. Michel 2009/6/22 William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote: That was my initial objection also, I believe

Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-22 Thread John Berry
No it is not, there is plenty of evidence that it is not EM as an EM pulse can't become a static charge. There IS a phenomena that is created by circuits that are abruptly switched that projects a charge in a way that I state. The evidence for this that I have not shared is somewhat significant

Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-22 Thread John Berry
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 7:06 PM, William Beaty bi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote: That was my initial objection also, I believe that *can* happen. I also know that sometimes when a plasma is turned off the charges (electrons anyway) can be propelled into the

[Vo]:Recent STEORN activity

2009-06-22 Thread OrionWorks
Recent analysis of STEORN activity (Monday June 22, 2009): http://freeenergytruth.blogspot.com/2009/06/steorn-jury-reports-launch-of-orbo-in.html http://tinyurl.com/lopr8h Any comments from the peanut gallery? Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Recent STEORN activity

2009-06-22 Thread Esa Ruoho
still waiting for energy from the vacuum part 11 - magnetic gates, which will have john bedini talking for about 2 hours and about howard johnson's magnetic gates, howard johnson's magnetic field mapping, and bedini's experiences regards the bloch wall, switching magnetic gates.. and capturing it.

[Vo]:Lederman still wrong

2009-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is an article published in the future (dated July 4, 2009): http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/44816/title/Intel_ISEF_Discussion_Panel Leon M. Lederman is quoted: It’s a curious question because if something that you expected to be right turns out not to be right, what you do is

Re: [Vo]:Lederman still wrong

2009-06-22 Thread Edmund Storms
Perhaps someone can contact this person and advise him to do a little homework about the subject before he embarrasses himself further. Ed On Jun 22, 2009, at 11:03 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Here is an article published in the future (dated July 4, 2009):

Re: [Vo]:Lederman still wrong

2009-06-22 Thread Alexander Hollins
I really wish someone would. His book, The God Particle, was the most entertaining and informative work of non-fic I've ever read. A more wonderful advocate for CF research I would be hard pressed to think of. On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Edmund Stormsstor...@ix.netcom.com wrote: Perhaps

Re: [Vo]:Recent STEORN activity

2009-06-22 Thread Terry Blanton
Did you note that at least two of the jury scientists are also involved in CF research? Terry On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 11:02 AM, OrionWorkssvj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Recent analysis of STEORN activity (Monday June 22, 2009):

Re: [Vo]:Recent STEORN activity

2009-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Did you note that at least two of the jury scientists are also involved in CF research? McKubre and Biberian. In for a penny, in for a pound. What has happened here? I have not been following the story. Has the jury been disbanded without reaching a decision? That seems

Re: [Vo]:Recent STEORN activity

2009-06-22 Thread Terry Blanton
The report seems to be failure: http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blogs/jury-verdict In August 2006 the Irish company Steorn published an advertisement in the Economist announcing the development of “a technology that produces free, clean and constant energy”. Qualified experts were

Re: [Vo]:Recent STEORN activity

2009-06-22 Thread Terry Blanton
Steorn statement on their website: http://www.steorn.com/news/releases/?id=1151 Jury Report Steorn today confirmed that the internet ‘blog’ stjury.ning.com had been posted on behalf of members of the Jury of scientists that Steorn had engaged to conduct an independent review of its Orbo

Re: [Vo]:Recent STEORN activity

2009-06-22 Thread OrionWorks
From Terry, ... From the jurors: http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blogs/jury-verdict From McCarthy: http://www.steorn.com/news/releases/?id=1151 ... In other words, Bugger their opinion, the hoax continues. McCarthy's statement was certainly more parsed than yours. ;-) I

Re: [Vo]:Recent STEORN activity

2009-06-22 Thread William Beaty
On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Terry Blanton wrote: The report seems to be failure: http://freeenergytrackers.ning.com/profiles/blogs/jury-verdict Oh well, no problem there, since Steorn stated that they'd prove their good intentions by refusing all funding from investors until the jury verified their

Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-22 Thread mixent
In reply to John Berry's message of Mon, 22 Jun 2009 21:04:05 +1200: Hi, [snip] Also how can microwaves charge something with a static charge? [snip] This is just a guess, but consider that most metals have an oxide coating due to exposure to the air. The metal-oxide boundary may sometimes form a

Re: [Vo]:Hiddink capacitor links

2009-06-22 Thread John Berry
I considered that and more but IMO that moves from the realm of probability to debunking.. Given the evidence that both of these effects exist, both the electron being ejected and arcs creating excess energy it would seem to me that something should not be ruled out simply because some improbable

Re: [Vo]:Recent STEORN activity

2009-06-22 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 3:14 PM, OrionWorkssvj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: Can you clarify? They are claiming an energy imbalance due to motion of magnetic interaction. They call it magnetic viscosity. I have seen no acknowledgment that the Lenz effect can do exactly that. But it always

Re: [Vo]:Recent STEORN activity

2009-06-22 Thread Terry Blanton
Uh, no. Steorn took about $1.4M from existing investors in November. I guess you could say that they *took* no new investors. :-) Terru On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 5:07 PM, William Beatybi...@eskimo.com wrote: On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, Terry Blanton wrote: The report seems to be failure:

[Vo]:some fun at the Secret City Festaval at Oak Ridge

2009-06-22 Thread FZNIDARSIC
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Re: [Vo]:Dateline: 2013

2009-06-22 Thread OrionWorks
I just received a new email from an unknown IP source and unknown origin. The time stamp appears to be from a distant undefined future reference point. Vince appears to be back at it: -- I see a few on this group list have bravely speculated about interesting

Re: [Vo]:Plasma capacitor

2009-06-22 Thread Kyle Mcallister
V, Hmm. Very little to say, re: my plasma capacitor relaxation oscillator. I'll do a few more quick tests and let you know what I find. John, now that we've established, despite the static, that one can make a cap with one plate a plasma, what specifically would you like me to do with it

Re: [Vo]:When two wrongs make a right -- oil and nuclear

2009-06-22 Thread mixent
In reply to Chris Zell's message of Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:02:36 -0700 (PDT): Hi, [snip] Lemme get this straight, you wanna build fusion reactors to make gasoline?   OK,  so economic development isn't always linear.  Maybe if you reduce energy inputs to nearly zero cost,  the other costs of labor

Re: [Vo]:Plasma capacitor

2009-06-22 Thread John Berry
Indeed not much, but there is no reason to believe that it should be insufficient as we know the capacitance wasn't going to be very high, I have not yet established if it is less than might be expected however. Well Ok let's charge the cap with a few KV and then see if this emission of electrons

Re: [Vo]:some fun at the Secret City Festaval at Oak Ridge

2009-06-22 Thread Steven Krivit
Did they capture Shanahan too? At 04:51 PM 6/22/2009, you wrote: http://www.angelfire.com/pa/ParksJohnstown/captured.htmlhttp://www.angelfire.com/pa/ParksJohnstown/captured.html Frank Z