Yes this makes sense, John's "something decidedly more instant which
can easily make it through insulators" is most probably a plasma
turnoff generated EM pulse.

Michel

2009/6/22 William Beaty <[email protected]>
>
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2009, John Berry wrote:
> > That was my initial objection also, I believe that *can* happen.
> >
> > I also know that sometimes when a plasma is turned off the charges
> > (electrons anyway) can be propelled into the environment.  Tesla found this
> > and so have most people who have played with Tesla coils and similar.
>
> Then I should ignore glass-enclosed plasmas which block the particles, and
> instead perform a different test:  use a grounded neon-sign transformer to
> strike an arc in air between two electrodes, surround it closely with
> electrically-floating window screen, then apply pulses of (positive?) high
> voltage to the screen with nS rise time, via a spark.
>
> The screen will pull negative particles out of the spark-plasma and
> accelerate them out into the air.  Will I feel a stinging sensation on my
> face?  Will it click a geiger counter?  Kill cellphones?  If not, then
> we're barking up the wrong tree, and Hiddink's effect needs argon/mercury
> gas tubes.
>
>
>
> > And it isn't ion wind, it is something decidedly more instant which can
> > easily make it through insulators.
>
> You'd have to test it personally to see whether this is true, since the
> EM-waves emitted by fast-rise spark gap pulses are essentially the same
> thing as UHF/microwave pulses.  They create HV effects, yet they bounce
> off metals and go right through insulators.
>
> H. Hertz and later C. Bose were performing similar experiments, and Bose
> found he could focus the pulses with lenses, bend with prisms, polarize
> and rotate just like light waves.  1mm microwaves act much like infrared,
> yet they're produced by high voltage spark gaps. If the pulses were
> megawatts over microseconds, fractional-joule and repetitive, no doubt
> they'd kill electronics, and might produce those stinging sensations.
> They'd go through walls but be stopped by metal foil.
>
>
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