Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Ly Sig
FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. His time is eaten up by addiction to promulgating uncreative, boring script. Jed is on a donor list for $1,000 with a slippery group of 4 looking for research donations. Only fools send donations to Nigeria and

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Esa Ruoho
Anyone else object to posts like the one below? Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. On 14 Nov 2012, at 13:54, Ly Sig ly...@ymail.com wrote: FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. His time is eaten up by addiction to promulgating uncreative,

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread ChemE Stewart
As children in this world we are taught to ask for things. Jed has every right. He provides a valuable service. Stewart darkmattersalot.com On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? Sent from some iDevice. Written

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Peter Gluck
Because trolls and other aggressive people always are posting anonymously or with nicknames, I want to suggest to Bill Beaty to transform Vortex in a Forum on which every member should use his or her real, verifiable name. The courage of cowards is always destructive. Peter On Wed, Nov 14, 2012

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Vorl Bek
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:09:13 +0200 Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? I do not. It is always good for Enthusiasts to be cautioned about how they spend their Money, lest, in an Enthusiastick Fit, they spend it Foolishly.

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Esa Ruoho
Ly Sig, Vorl Bek.. Nuff said. On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Vorl Bek vorl@antichef.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 14:09:13 +0200 Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? I do not. It is always good for Enthusiasts to be cautioned about

RE: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Ly FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. This makes no sense. His time is eaten up by addiction to promulgating uncreative, boring script. This is an absurd statement. Jed is on a donor list for $1,000 with a slippery group of 4 looking

RE: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
From Vorl: Esa Ruoho wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? I do not. It is always good for Enthusiasts to be cautioned about how they spend their Money, lest, in an Enthusiastick Fit, they spend it Foolishly. And I do object. While caution is always called for, and while

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Alain Sepeda
Even if my pseudonimity is no more secret, I would defend pseudonyms. At worst someone could keep the real identity. to be simple : imagine that I say: my employer dump billions in a hole, and i don't want him to know I know what he is doing... Imagine I say : my neighbors will burn me like a

[Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera

2012-11-14 Thread Roarty, Francis X
The ufo is so fast it is invisible to the naked eye but can be observed by slowing film - both by original claimant and by the news agency camera that validated his claim. The ufo went undetected by nearby radar installations... My posit... relativistic drive/navigation is responsible for the

Re: [Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera

2012-11-14 Thread Craig
It's not an alien. :) 1) It's small. 2) It's flown over a local neighborhood. 3) It flies at the same time each day. 4) It's very fast and maneuverable. 5) In one frame, you can see a small flame coming from it. It all points to some type of RC plane being flown at lunch by a local enthusiast.

Re: [Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera

2012-11-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Craig cchayniepub...@gmail.com wrote: What else could it be? Bugs. :-)

[Vo]:59 GW of coal fired capacity slated for retirement

2012-11-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Falling natural gas prices plus the cost of upgrading coal fired plants have made them uneconomical. See: http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/article/2012/11/report-59-gw-of-coal-fired-generation-capacity-should-retire-could-open-the-door-for-renewable-energy - Jed

Re: [Vo]:59 GW of coal fired capacity slated for retirement

2012-11-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Hold on here . . . This is a recommendation from the UCS. There was another article this morning in the AJC describing actual coal plant closings. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera

2012-11-14 Thread Terry Blanton
There is what appears to be a quonset hut near 56th and Clay where these are said to originate. You can see it on google maps at: 39.79945, -105.02035

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Esa Ruoho esaru...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone else object to posts like the one below? Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa. On 14 Nov 2012, at 13:54, Ly Sig ly...@ymail.com wrote: FYI: Jed managed 16050 posts to vortex. Conclusion, Jed has no need to earn money. His time is eaten up

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: I have no objection. On the contrary, Ly Sig has performed a valuable service here, reminding us that many people oppose everything about cold fusion, even an on-line library of papers. That sounds egotistical, as if I meant that an attack on me is an attack on cold fusion. What I

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:04:00 -0800: Hi, There is another problem I have with the Rydberg option. I would expect elongated atoms to orient themselves in exactly the opposite direction to that needed to facilitate fusion, i.e. with the proton as *far* from the

Re: [Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera

2012-11-14 Thread Eric Walker
I can appreciate that it is a UFO, in the technical sense. But did it have aliens in it? Eric Sent from my iPhone On Nov 14, 2012, at 6:01, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: The ufo is so fast it is invisible to the naked eye but can be observed by slowing film –

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread Eric Walker
Maybe there is an application to be found in *reducing* the fusion cross section. ;) Eric On Nov 14, 2012, at 12:17, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Eric Walker's message of Tue, 13 Nov 2012 20:04:00 -0800: Hi, There is another problem I have with the Rydberg option. I would expect

RE: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: Eric Walker Maybe there is an [IRH] application to be found in *reducing* the fusion cross section. ;) It was suggested years ago that a hybrid of Hot Fusion and LENR might be possible, especially with so-called desktop accelerators and extreme loading

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Perhaps the easiest way to imagine this kind of hot-cold-hybrid would be based on ICF (inertial confinement) ... where the cost savings comes from using LENR loading techniques to manufacture implosion pellets for irradiation via coherent beam

Re: [Vo]:UFO claim replicated by news agency camera

2012-11-14 Thread ChemE Stewart
Our alien buddies most likely exist in collapsed dark matter. That is their drone riding a particle orbital path. Thousands of miles per second. Our next form of transportation. Green is out, rainbow power is where it is at. I hope they can help with the comets Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread ChemE Stewart
Neutrinos knock off protons thru Beta Decay, bad for DNA, what can I say... Stewart Darkmattersalot.com On Wednesday, November 14, 2012, Jed Rothwell wrote: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'jone...@pacbell.net'); wrote: Perhaps the easiest way to imagine this kind

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Jed Rothwell
Here is some information from Christy for people who cannot use PayPal who wish to contribute: Other options: 1) [The person] can mail a check, as long as it is in USD. 2) If he already has a PayPal account, he can just send us a payment or I can send him an invoice to pay, but I have to know

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Daniel Rocha
Can I pay in bullions? 2012/11/14 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com Here is some information from Christy for people who cannot use PayPal who wish to contribute: Other options: 1) [The person] can mail a check, as long as it is in USD. 2) If he already has a PayPal account, he can

Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR.org year-end fundraising campaign

2012-11-14 Thread Rob Dingemans
Hi, On 15-11-2012 0:30, Daniel Rocha wrote: Can I pay in bullions? Dunno, but with Paypal you can at least (after exchange) pay with Euros. Regards, Rob

[Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!

2012-11-14 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
FYI: they're beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don't need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase). http://phys.org/news/2012-11-supercharge-atoms-x-ray-laser.html Just as a

Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!

2012-11-14 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 8:26 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: FYI: they’re beginning to discover that, as I have expressed several times here, you don’t need to hit an atom with a sledgehammer to ionize it. Just a wee bit of energy at the right frequency and timing (phase)…**

RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!

2012-11-14 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Another problem Terry is that if one is using a source that is a subharmonic then you cannot hit it with a continuous train of EM; you have to use pulses, as they did in this experiment. -mark iverson From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:22

RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!

2012-11-14 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Another thing that has confused the situation is the difference of how frequency is represented as one goes to higher and higher frequencies in the EM spectrum… it uses Hertz up to microwave/millimeterwave frequencies; but then changes to 'wave number' when it gets into optical frequencies… maybe

RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!

2012-11-14 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
It might not be as simple as 350degs. if applied continuously as the heat is, then exact frequencies are essential, thus, one probably needs something like 350.01282874934 degs! -mark iverson From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 6:22 PM To:

Re: [Vo]:High energy protons emissions/Nov.1 Piantelli Patent

2012-11-14 Thread Jeff Berkowitz
There's actually a whole spectrum of these ideas, correct? For example Robin's concept of using an MCF device as a source of 14.1MeV neutrons to force fission in actinides (e.g. nuclear waste). Has anyone tried to summarize or assemble a list of these? It could span from the completely mainstream

Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!

2012-11-14 Thread David Roberson
If you actually apply heat as in joule heating, the energy covers a wide range of frequencies. There is a limited amount at any one narrow band, but all of the bands have at least a small amount. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l

[Vo]:(Audio) Lewis Larsen at ANS Meeting LENR Panel Session

2012-11-14 Thread pagnucco
(Audio) Lewis Larsen presentation at Panel Session at American Nuclear Society National Meeting, San Diego CA, Nov. 14 http://www.slideshare.net/lewisglarsen/audio-larsenelectroweak-neutron-production-and-capture-in-lightning-dischargesans-san-diego-nov-14-2012

[Vo]:another interesting explanation

2012-11-14 Thread Eric Walker
See the My Personal Theory section of the post from Ron Maimon at physics.SE: http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/3799/why-is-cold-fusion-considered-bogus/13734 Ron had a long post here for a while now, but very recently he updated it to include new material in his explanation section.

RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!

2012-11-14 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
I don’t think this experiment would fit into that explanation though, would it? This was a coherent laser source at a specific energy (aka, frequency) of 1.5kev. Regardless of how the heat is being applied (cond, conv, rad) in something like the eCAT, it ultimately ends up in lattice

RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!

2012-11-14 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Here’s the excerpt from the abstract: “we report an unprecedentedly high degree of ionization of xenon atoms by 1.5 keV free-electron laser pulses to charge states with ionization energies far exceeding the photon energy.” Also keep in mind that this is a coherent light source… Wonder

RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!

2012-11-14 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
There’s “Supplemental Info”, which is a freely downloadable PDF… http://www.nature.com/nphoton/journal/vaop/ncurrent/extref/nphoton.2012.261-s1.pdf -mark From: MarkI-ZeroPoint [mailto:zeropo...@charter.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 10:13 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject:

Re: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical skulls!

2012-11-14 Thread David Roberson
I see what you mean. My mistake. Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Nov 15, 2012 1:13 am Subject: RE: [Vo]:FYI: its all about resonances... it's finally getting into their think collective theoretical