Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-25 Thread Harry Veeder
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Harry In stars deuterons formation begins with the fusion of two protons into a diproton. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain_reaction Since the diproton is very unstable it usually fissions soon

[Vo]:new solar concentrator

2013-04-25 Thread P.J van Noorden
Hello, New solar concentrator without parabolic mirror. System is flat and can produce electricity and heat http://suncycle.nl/# Peter v Noorden

RE: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Actually The neutron has mass slightly larger than that of a proton: 939.565378 MeV compared to 938.272046 MeV. Consequently, a deuteron has slightly more mass than a diproton. That is one of the many reasons why the reaction on the Sun, the

Re: [Vo]:new solar concentrator

2013-04-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
This is an annoying web site. Slow to load and uninformative. What is this thing? A Fresnel lens plus PV cell? - Jed

RE: [Vo]:New sonofusion experiment presentation

2013-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Lou, Even if the experimenters claimed to achieve 400,000 neutrons per second - which they said is possible in that sized unit (but they did not claim to have achieved it themselves) - this represents possibly five orders of magnitude too few for breakeven. I am not doubting their measurement

Re: [Vo]:Ban the killer robots before it's too late

2013-04-25 Thread a.ashfield
The problem is not armed drones. They are little different from advanced artillery. The problem, as always, is who controls them. The real problem would be if they were put under the control of a computer program, like in the Terminator.

[Vo]:Fwd: Good pr

2013-04-25 Thread fznidarsic
Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: fznidar...@aol.com Date: April 25, 2013, 12:25:15 PM EDT To: vortex-l@eskimo.com vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Good pr http://dimensionalchemist.com/frank-znidarsic-explained-great-video-series/ Sent from my iPad

Re: [Vo]:Ban the killer robots before it's too late

2013-04-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: The problem is not armed drones. They are little different from advanced artillery. The problem, as always, is who controls them. As I pointed out, no one controlled most previous weapons, such as WWII bombs dropped from airplanes. Any measure of

Re: [Vo]:Ban the killer robots before it's too late

2013-04-25 Thread Harry Veeder
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 1:05 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: a.ashfield a.ashfi...@verizon.net wrote: The real problem would be if they were put under the control of a computer program, like in the Terminator. It seems unlikely to me that we will be able to make such a

Re: [Vo]:new solar concentrator

2013-04-25 Thread P.J van Noorden
Hello Jed, Yes it is but it is capable to concentrate sunlight on a high efficiency solar cel during the day, while the sun moves. The system is rather flat Peter - Original Message - From: Jed Rothwell To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2013 3:55 PM Subject:

Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:38:34 -0700: Hi Jones,Terry, I'll respond to both posts at the same time. [snip] -Original Message- From: mix...@bigpond.com Actually The neutron has mass slightly larger than that of a proton: 939.565378 MeV compared to

Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 25 Apr 2013 06:38:34 -0700: Hi, I wrote: I don't see how physicists could possibly measure the ratio of beta+ to electron capture reactions occurring in the core of the Sun anyway (see e.g.

[Vo]:evidence of diprotons

2013-04-25 Thread Harry Veeder
Possible laboratory evidence of diprotons http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diproton#Helium-2_.28diproton.29 It is interesting that one of the experiments mentioned in the above link used fluorine and a recent post on Passerini's blog suggests SPAWAR would have got better results with fluorine

Re: [Vo]:Ban the killer robots before it's too late

2013-04-25 Thread David Roberson
Everyone needs to ban them and in a manner that can be verified. I expect a lot of cheating with such a powerful device. Dave -Original Message- From: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Apr 25, 2013 3:01 pm Subject: Re: [Vo]:Ban the killer

RE: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-25 Thread Jones Beene
Hi Robin, Well I am including the mass-energy of the positron and the neutrino, which are emitted - added to the mass of the deuteron to suggest that all of these weigh considerably more than two protons. Therefore outside energy (momentum) would have to be employed, even though real energy is

Re: [Vo]:Ban the killer robots before it's too late

2013-04-25 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 5:28 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: Everyone needs to ban them and in a manner that can be verified. I expect a lot of cheating with such a powerful device. I feel like this is one of those quiet developments that will sneak up on us and have profound

Re: [Vo]:Curious irony

2013-04-25 Thread mixent
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Thu, 25 Apr 2013 17:36:50 -0700: Hi, [snip] Hi Robin, Well I am including the mass-energy of the positron and the neutrino, which are emitted - added to the mass of the deuteron to suggest that all of these weigh considerably more than two protons. Therefore

Re: [Vo]:Ban the killer robots before it's too late

2013-04-25 Thread Harry Veeder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_robotics Lists Asimov's three laws and other principles for regulating robot behaviour. Harry