[Vo]:Extraterrestrial neutrinos detected on Earth

2013-11-25 Thread Blaze Spinnaker
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/extraterrestrial-neutrinos-detected-earth-192107067.html

More and more I wonder if LENR is simply a result of catching cosmic rays.


Re: [Vo]:Extraterrestrial neutrinos detected on Earth

2013-11-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:


 More and more I wonder if LENR is simply a result of catching cosmic rays.


LENR might be triggered by that. There is some evidence for that, gathered
by Dave Nagel. However, LENR cannot be cosmic rays. If it were we would all
be fried. Life on earth would not exist.

- Jed


[Vo]:Elforsk report

2013-11-25 Thread Brad Lowe
A new ~50 page report on LENR has been released by Elforsk, as
reported by Matts Lewan :
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3789527.ece

The report is in Swedish, here is Google Translation link:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=svtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fsupersync.com%2Felforsk.pdf


- Brad



Re: [Vo]:Extraterrestrial neutrinos detected on Earth

2013-11-25 Thread ChemE Stewart
Guys,

We have a whole decaying quantum vacuum layer in the atmosphere around
us triggering our weather. Put some air and water vapor in a canister and
try to get it to do what happens in our atmosphere.  LENR hotspots in the
atmosphere cause lightning to jump out at us.

Spacetime is bogus. Space decay is where it is at and it takes us all with
it after 80 or so orbits.



On Monday, November 25, 2013, Jed Rothwell wrote:

 Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
 'blazespinna...@gmail.com'); wrote:


 More and more I wonder if LENR is simply a result of catching cosmic rays.


 LENR might be triggered by that. There is some evidence for that, gathered
 by Dave Nagel. However, LENR cannot be cosmic rays. If it were we would all
 be fried. Life on earth would not exist.

 - Jed




Re: [Vo]:Elforsk report

2013-11-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Thanks for posting that.

The Google translation link version of the report appears to show only
text, with the figures chopped out. It turns out there are no figures.

- Jed


RE: [Vo]:Elforsk report

2013-11-25 Thread Jones Beene
-Original Message-
From: Brad Lowe 

The report is in Swedish, here is Google Translation link:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=ensl=svtl=enu=http%3A%2F%2Fsuper
sync.com%2Felforsk.pdf


There are a few historical gems in here, or referenced in other documents -
which go back half a century, and are worthy of re-assessment.

For instance, Borghi's synthetic neutron was almost certainly f/H or
fractional hydrogen (Mills' hydrino). Here is the timeline. 

1940 Seemingly unaware of Harkins's work, Don Carlo Borghi makes the
assumption again that the neutron is a peculiar bound state of the
hydrogen atom. His hypothesis is refused because it contradicts Bohr's atom
and Heisenberg's Quantum Mechanics. Borghi does not realize the danger of
his hypothesis. He insists and is estranged.

1950-1955  D. C. Borghi experiments to synthesize neutrons starting from a
cold hydrogen plasma. Expelled from Milan, he moves to the Vatican. With the
money he is given, he starts his experiments in a Roman laboratory. Borghi
succeeds where Harkins failed: cold synthesis of the neutron shows that
the neutron really is the sum of the proton and an electron [according to
the flawed interpretation of the experiment].

1958Borghi tries to present his experimental results at the Vienna
Convention. But
Amaldi's action prevents him from having his paper accepted. Estranged once
again, Borghi leaves the scene for good.

In conclusion, a good case can be made for the proposition that 35 years
before Mills, Borghi did indeed discover a neutral particle, which was
slightly lower mass than a neutron, and slightly heavier than a proton, and
which he had manufactured in a cold hydrogen plasma. The identity of this
particle is now referred to as f/H or fractional hydrogen (Mills' hydrino).

AFAIK - Borghi's paper remains unpublished to this day. It would interesting
to see his proof.








Re: [Vo]:Extraterrestrial neutrinos detected on Earth

2013-11-25 Thread Terry Blanton
Obit.s

On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:37 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Guys,

 We have a whole decaying quantum vacuum layer in the atmosphere around us
 triggering our weather. Put some air and water vapor in a canister and try
 to get it to do what happens in our atmosphere.  LENR hotspots in the
 atmosphere cause lightning to jump out at us.

 Spacetime is bogus. Space decay is where it is at and it takes us all with
 it after 80 or so orbits.



 On Monday, November 25, 2013, Jed Rothwell wrote:

 Blaze Spinnaker blazespinna...@gmail.com wrote:


 More and more I wonder if LENR is simply a result of catching cosmic
 rays.


 LENR might be triggered by that. There is some evidence for that, gathered
 by Dave Nagel. However, LENR cannot be cosmic rays. If it were we would all
 be fried. Life on earth would not exist.

 - Jed





Re: [Vo]:Elforsk report

2013-11-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Jones Beene

 AFAIK - Borghi's paper remains unpublished to this day. It would interesting
 to see his proof.

Santilli claims to base his experiments on Borghi's papers:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0608229.pdf

ref.[2]



RE: [Vo]:Elforsk report

2013-11-25 Thread Jones Beene
Original Message-
From: Terry Blanton 

Santilli claims to base his experiments on Borghi's papers:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0608229.pdf


Hmmm... Interesting that Santilli cites Mills, saying It should be noted
that new bound states of protons and electron below the Bohr's ground state
of the hydrogen have been predicted by various authors (e.g. Mills) and
appear to be necessary in any case for a serious interpretation of the Sun
spectral emission... END of quote

Yet, Santilli then proceeds to generally ignore this possibility, which is
close to the correct solution IMHO- in favor of what appears to be his own
hadron mechanics and/or magnecules which is in some ways another name
for the same species as Mills proposes but with less validation.

It is easy to see why Santilli does this, since some of his writings
preceded Mills with the general idea (but lacking the Rydberg connection,
and lacking adequate experiment)... and thus he was ignored; but at that
time, RS was an abysmal communicator of ideas - almost incomprehensible in
writing style. After Mills started getting published in Fusion Technology
and other prestigious journals, Santilli was infuriated that he did not get
credit (or funding)...(which is not to say that Mills has been broadly
accepted either). RS probably deserves credit, in a perfect world - if an
when he has reproducible experiments. This is the value of hiring a decent
technical writer.

Clearly, it is not enough to be first with an idea (if it exists primarily
in your own mind). You must be able to communicate that idea to others and
encourage them to replicate. Santilli has learned to drop most of the
pomposity and impenetrable writing style - and to communicate with others as
peers, but his bitterness at being ignored for all those years has left him
as alienated as was Don Borghi. 

BTW - has Santilli had any major experiment of his competently replicated?




Re: [Vo]:Elforsk report

2013-11-25 Thread Terry Blanton
On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:49 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 BTW - has Santilli had any major experiment of his competently replicated?

Not as I recall.  Many have tried,  IIRC, and failed.  That is why I
hesitated to mention him at all.

And then there's Magnegas which makes one think of Rossi.



[Vo]:Disembodied quantum properties

2013-11-25 Thread Axil Axil
There have been indications from research in superconductivity that charge,
spin an angular momentum may be separated from the electron and that the
law of conservation of charge is often violated in these types of systems.



This new experiment shows that the properties of quantum particles can be
separated in time and space using weak observations and such disembodied
quantum properties are an inherent mechanism of quantum mechanics.



*Given all the weird things that can occur in quantum mechanics—from
entanglement to superposition to teleportation—not much seems surprising in
the quantum world. Nevertheless, a new finding that an object's physical
properties can be disembodied from the object itself is not something we're
used to seeing on an everyday basis. In a new paper, physicists have
theoretically shown that this phenomenon, which they call a quantum
Cheshire Cat, is an inherent feature of quantum mechanics and could prove
useful for performing precise quantum measurements by removing unwanted
properties. *



 Read more at:
http://phys.org/news/2013-11-physicists-quantum-cheshire-cats-paradoxes.html#jCp

*Physicists add 'quantum Cheshire Cats' to list of quantum paradoxes*



In thinking about LENR, we must guard against narrow thinking which treats
quantum particles like billiard balls. For example, charge (aka the coulomb
barrier) may be reduced (as in the fractional quantum hall effect) or
totally removed from protons if the nucleus of the atom is properly
manipulated.


[Vo]:New patent application from George Miley

2013-11-25 Thread pagnucco
Originally found by poster 'tip' on e-catworld.com ---

Power units based on dislocation site techniques  US 20130295512 A1

ABSTRACT
A distributed energy system includes a gas-loaded heat generator capable
of producing a thermal energy. The system includes a gas source to provide
one or more isotopes of hydrogen, a plurality of metallic
micro-structures, a gas loading chamber containing the plurality of
metallic micro-structures. The gas loading chamber is structured to
receive the one or more isotopes of hydrogen from the gas source. The
system also includes a gas loading system capable of providing a gas
loading pressure to the gas loading chamber containing the plurality of
metallic micro-structures with an amount of one or more isotopes of
hydrogen to form hydrogen clusters. In one form, the system further
includes a thermal transducer capable of converting a first portion of the
thermal energy. In still another form, the system additionally includes a
waste heat recovery device capable of applying a second portion of the
thermal energy.

http://www.google.com/patents/US20130295512




Re: [Vo]:Dielectric Gas

2013-11-25 Thread mixent
In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Fri, 22 Nov 2013 13:45:24 -0800:
Hi,

Note that this is a Hydrogen + Chlorine reactor, and HCl is a Mills catalyst
(according to Mills ;)


 

 

From: Axil Axil 

 

Will Chlorine work as well as hydrogen in the Ni/X reactor design?

 

 

Chlorine was claimed to work strongly in a reactor designed to enhance solar
energy recovery (Robert Scragg was the inventor). This was over 30 years
ago. Possibly the gas is too corrosive.

 

http://www.rexresearch.com/scragg/scragg.htm

 
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Extraterrestrial neutrinos detected on Earth

2013-11-25 Thread mixent
In reply to  Blaze Spinnaker's message of Mon, 25 Nov 2013 04:36:43 -0800:
Hi,
[snip]
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/extraterrestrial-neutrinos-detected-earth-192107067.html

More and more I wonder if LENR is simply a result of catching cosmic rays.

If they have only just been detected, then it's unlikely that they are common
enough to be the cause of CF.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html