Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-06-10 Thread Axil Axil
There is a big difference between a certain physical process being valid and the commercial viability of a product based on that process. Just because a spark will explode gasoline vapor does not imply that a Lamborghini can be designed to use that principle or that the car will sell in the

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-06-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
That's why I coupled the two probabilities upthread. Did you read the thread? http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg93531.html Let's say you think there's a 66% chance that Rossi's real and a 50% chance that CYPW will be in the right commercial place to take advantage. That means

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-06-10 Thread Kevin O'Malley
From ECAT World Rossi on His Anxiety Over E-Cat Test Results Posted on June 9, 2014 by admin http://www.e-catworld.com/author/admin/ • 62 Comments http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/06/09/rossi-on-his-anxiety-over-e-cat-test-results/#comments

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-06-10 Thread John Berry
Yes, but just because there are some things that are real but not very commercially viable, and just because in our ignorance we may be unable to say if it is commercially viable or not does not change the fact of what it is. It either is real and useful, real and useless to some degree and

RE: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-06-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
Axil, Good point regarding proof of the effect and actual construction of a useful product. The lack of evidence to date suggest the effect, if real, is extremely self destructive making replication at low power density difficult enough but extracting high power density is exponentially more

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-06-10 Thread Roarty, Francis X
John, I agree this is an etheric effect and has the same difficulties MM encountered trying to prove a spatial based ether. IMHO Naudt’s paper describing hydrinos as relativistic hydrogen holds a key to much of this – and puts the fractional/shrinking hydrogen on a plane 90 degrees to our

[Vo]:Higgs, spin, and an energy-sink

2014-06-10 Thread Jones Beene
Here is a new/old spin on LENR. Executive summary: the energy gain in LENR can be described as retained spin energy - involving the Higgs particle as an energy sink. We speculated about the Higgs - LENR connection some time ago - and the elements xenon, cesium barium, lanthanum and cerium - all

Re: [Vo]:Recent news on Podkletnov's gravity shielding work...

2014-06-10 Thread linuxball
On 24.05.2014 02:58, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to MarkI-ZeroPoint's message of Sun, 18 May 2014 17:27:53 -0700: Hi, [snip] Just a FYI for those interested in superconductors and gravity. http://nextbigfuture.com/2014/05/update-on-podkletnov-gravity.html The propagation time of

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-06-10 Thread Axil Axil
“*John, I agree this is an etheric effect and has the same difficulties MM encountered trying to prove a spatial based ether.”* *An in depth understanding of the LENR mechanism will show that LENR is an etheric effect. LENR implies non-locality.* *Nonlocality* *Definition: a direct

RE: [Vo]:Higgs, spin, and an energy-sink

2014-06-10 Thread Jones Beene
How do you split the electron? At one time this was considered impossible, then it became a mathematical abstraction, then a controversial experiment and later: let me count the ways... :-) Aside from the FQHE, we should consider that two years ago an accredited research team observed an

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-06-10 Thread John Berry
Axil, I think you need to add ether or aether to your spell check dictionary. Either or both, but not neither or you end up with 'either' ;) On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:04 AM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: “*John, I agree this is an etheric effect and has the same difficulties MM

Re: [Vo]:Higgs, spin, and an energy-sink

2014-06-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 1:22 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Any electron getting close to the gateway will be tightly confined at temperatures close to absolute zero and the result could be that only the spinon is retained in 3-space, while the holon and orbiton become properties

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-06-10 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:09 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Axil, I think you need to add ether or aether to your spell check dictionary. Either or both, but not neither or you end up with 'either' ;) Or 'aeither'. :-)

Re: [Vo]:Recent news on Podkletnov's gravity shielding work...

2014-06-10 Thread mixent
In reply to linuxball's message of Tue, 10 Jun 2014 17:56:41 +0200: Hi, [snip] Hi Robin, this is most likely a copy-and-paste error. It should read: The delay was 63±1 ns, corresponding to a propagation speed of 64c. See chapter 8 of the following PDF sample document on page 32-34:

Re: [Vo]:Increasing probability of Rossi being real upwards, to 35%

2014-06-10 Thread H Veeder
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 6:14 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:09 PM, John Berry berry.joh...@gmail.com wrote: Axil, I think you need to add ether or aether to your spell check dictionary. Either or both, but not neither or you end up with 'either' ;)

Re: [Vo]:Recent news on Podkletnov's gravity shielding work...

2014-06-10 Thread leaking pen
reading the article... shoot. That soundsalmost identical to a gravity shielding experiment I created fictionally for my webcomic... Zounds! On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 5:58 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to MarkI-ZeroPoint's message of Sun, 18 May 2014 17:27:53 -0700: Hi, [snip]