RE: [Vo]: Dark Matter

2015-02-20 Thread Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson
So, you subscribe to the hollow earth theory?

 We need to get off this hollow rock and spread our DNA...

 Stewart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaPtq8F2hUc

Regards,
Steven Vincent Johnson
svjart.orionworks.com
zazzle.com/orionworks



Re: [Vo]: Dark Matter

2015-02-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
Not really hollow, probably a 6-D brane of vacuum at the core

On Friday, February 20, 2015, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
orionwo...@charter.net wrote:

 So, you subscribe to the hollow earth theory?

  We need to get off this hollow rock and spread our DNA...
 
  Stewart

 Hollow Earth, The Biggest Cover Up - Full Documentary
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaPtq8F2hUc

 Regards,
 Steven Vincent Johnson
 svjart.orionworks.com
 zazzle.com/orionworks




Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-20 Thread mixent
In reply to  AlanG's message of Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:44:26 -0800:
Hi Alan,

Have you taken account of Hydrogen absorption by the rod?

My final report on the pressure is now available at 
http://tinyurl.com/pdrd224

It includes corrections for thermal expansion and the van der Waals 
effect. Your comments and suggestions will be welcome as always.

AlanG

On 2/20/2015 8:28 AM, Bob Higgins wrote:
 Yes Bob,   Thanks.

 The effect due to thermal expansion has been evaluated by Alan 
 Goldwater to be a fraction of a percent.  This pales in comparison to 
 the ~40% effect of the 2-volume 2-temperature calculation, the ~12% 
 effect of van der Walls vs. ideal gas, and the uncertainties in the 
 actual mass of LiAlH4.  But, it should be a part of the calculation.

 Another effect that could be at least as large is the mechanical 
 expansion of the alumina tube under the forces of the high pressure.  
 Thermal expansion increases the size of both the displacement rod and 
 the tube, but mechanical strain would only increase the tube diameter, 
 causing a bigger change in the dead volume.

 Bob Higgins

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html



Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-20 Thread AlanG
No. We discussed absorption by Ni and concluded that it would be minimal 
given the short duration of the test. I'd love to see evidence to the 
contrary, and our next test series will include a pressure sensor to 
watch for it.


AlanG

On 2/20/2015 4:01 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote:

In reply to  AlanG's message of Fri, 20 Feb 2015 11:44:26 -0800:
Hi Alan,

Have you taken account of Hydrogen absorption by the rod?


My final report on the pressure is now available at
http://tinyurl.com/pdrd224

It includes corrections for thermal expansion and the van der Waals
effect. Your comments and suggestions will be welcome as always.

AlanG

On 2/20/2015 8:28 AM, Bob Higgins wrote:

Yes Bob,   Thanks.

The effect due to thermal expansion has been evaluated by Alan
Goldwater to be a fraction of a percent.  This pales in comparison to
the ~40% effect of the 2-volume 2-temperature calculation, the ~12%
effect of van der Walls vs. ideal gas, and the uncertainties in the
actual mass of LiAlH4.  But, it should be a part of the calculation.

Another effect that could be at least as large is the mechanical
expansion of the alumina tube under the forces of the high pressure.
Thermal expansion increases the size of both the displacement rod and
the tube, but mechanical strain would only increase the tube diameter,
causing a bigger change in the dead volume.

Bob Higgins


Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html





Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-20 Thread Bob Higgins
Yes Bob,   Thanks.

The effect due to thermal expansion has been evaluated by Alan Goldwater to
be a fraction of a percent.  This pales in comparison to the ~40% effect of
the 2-volume 2-temperature calculation, the ~12% effect of van der Walls
vs. ideal gas, and the uncertainties in the actual mass of LiAlH4.  But, it
should be a part of the calculation.

Another effect that could be at least as large is the mechanical expansion
of the alumina tube under the forces of the high pressure.  Thermal
expansion increases the size of both the displacement rod and the tube, but
mechanical strain would only increase the tube diameter, causing a bigger
change in the dead volume.

Bob Higgins

On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Bob and Mark--

 One potential minor correction to the volume should account for the
 increase (or decrease)in volume with temperature due to thermal expansion
 of the alumina tube and the added materials inside the tube.

 Bob

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:08 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

 Mark,

 Alan Goldwater is working on a complete description of this that is being
 reviewed.  One thing I recently added was the 2-volume, 2-temperature
 calculation, which, even with the ideal gas formula cuts the theoretical
 pressure to about 60%.  I think Alan may be planning to discuss with you
 the 2-volume, 2-temperature calculation extended with the van der Walls
 formulation.  So, Alan created a document walking through the volumes and
 mass calculations for the fuel and it is being reviewed at this time - it
 still is not ready with all of the effects.  However, there is no reason
 not to give you what he is starting with to see if you come up with the
 same pressure estimates.  The primary heated volume having the fuel was
 calculated to be 0.844ml, and the cooler dead volume was 0.611ml.  The best
 estimates of the fuel (by Alan) was 0.565g of Vale T255 Ni + 0.105g of
 LiAlH4.  The initial fuel volume displacement estimate was 0.177ml which
 reduces the internal volume of the heated area.

 The alumina tube ID was 3.81mm, and the OD of the rod taking up the dead
 space was 3.17mm.  The OD was slightly under 6.35mm (1/4), leaving a wall
 thickness of about 1.25mm.  The sintered Ni rod that remained was about
 3.15mm diameter.  The Li-Al film on the ID of the tube is estimated to be
 25-100 microns in thickness.  Aside from the dimensions, there is no way to
 estimate the proximity of the OD of the sintered Ni and the ID of the
 alumina.

 Bob





Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-20 Thread Bob Cook
Bob and Mark--

One potential minor correction to the volume should account for the increase 
(or decrease)in volume with temperature due to thermal expansion of the alumina 
tube and the added materials inside the tube. 

Bob  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bob Higgins 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 2:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR


  Mark, 


  Alan Goldwater is working on a complete description of this that is being 
reviewed.  One thing I recently added was the 2-volume, 2-temperature 
calculation, which, even with the ideal gas formula cuts the theoretical 
pressure to about 60%.  I think Alan may be planning to discuss with you the 
2-volume, 2-temperature calculation extended with the van der Walls 
formulation.  So, Alan created a document walking through the volumes and mass 
calculations for the fuel and it is being reviewed at this time - it still is 
not ready with all of the effects.  However, there is no reason not to give you 
what he is starting with to see if you come up with the same pressure 
estimates.  The primary heated volume having the fuel was calculated to be 
0.844ml, and the cooler dead volume was 0.611ml.  The best estimates of the 
fuel (by Alan) was 0.565g of Vale T255 Ni + 0.105g of LiAlH4.  The initial fuel 
volume displacement estimate was 0.177ml which reduces the internal volume of 
the heated area.


  The alumina tube ID was 3.81mm, and the OD of the rod taking up the dead 
space was 3.17mm.  The OD was slightly under 6.35mm (1/4), leaving a wall 
thickness of about 1.25mm.  The sintered Ni rod that remained was about 3.15mm 
diameter.  The Li-Al film on the ID of the tube is estimated to be 25-100 
microns in thickness.  Aside from the dimensions, there is no way to estimate 
the proximity of the OD of the sintered Ni and the ID of the alumina.


  Bob



  On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Mark Jurich jur...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi Bob:

   Thank you so much for the rather concise/informative update involving 
the Dog Bone Explosion Run.  I have a couple comments and questions to ask and 
I am hoping you know the answers to them or can direct me or this note to 
someone who might know.

The “hoped” (or planned) weight % of Ni Powder in the fuel/charge was 
indeed 90%.  My current estimate puts it at slightly above 84%.  I realize that 
when you wrote 90% the implied error is +/- 10%, but I believe we are narrowing 
in to this value.  Of course, this is based on the latest MFMP Information and 
is still subject to review.  We are all anxiously awaiting the next update 
concerning the fuel/charge amount.

Do you know what Alumina Tube Inside Diameter and Wall Thickness is?  I 
would like to verify these values and attempt to determine whether the Hydrogen 
Gas Pressure (or what Hydrogen Gas Pressure) might cause the Alumina Tube to 
fracture.  A link to the Alumina Tube Material Data Sheet would be extremely 
helpful.

If you follow some of the links here at Vortex-L, my current estimate for 
the maximum pressure is 9641 psi +/- at least 10% error.

Do you know what the Outside Diameter of the Sintered Ni Rod was?  I know 
it may have been mentioned before.  I am curious if there was any noticeable 
gap between the rod and the Alumina Wall.

FYI:

Here are the links to the fuel/charge materials used in this experiment, as 
far as I know:


http://www.vale.com/EN/business/mining/nickel/NickelProducts/T255%20-%20Premium.pdf
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/199877

Thanks,
Mark Jurich


From: Bob Higgins 
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:35 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Subject: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

I received the broken shards of the alumina tube from the MFMP 
Parkhomov-like experiment from Ryan Hunt.  The intent was to have analyzed the 
metal film on the inside of the alumina to see if it is Li-Al alloy and to try 
to re-assemble the pieces to form at least one full circumference of the tube.  
So far, piecing the tube together has been unsuccessful; however, I have found 
2 pieces each having a large portion of the circumference - in one case 94 
degrees of an arc and in another 106 degrees.  In both cases, the ID of the 
alumina tube is completely covered with the metal film with no visual evidence 
at the boundaries of the metal tapering in thickness.  Statistically, there is 
nothing to suggest that these pieces were centered on the bottom of the tube.  
Also, none of the shards show any transition from covered to uncovered with 
metal. 

Based on this, I surmise that the interior of the tube at 1057C had a 
complete circumferential ring of liquid Li-Al in a thin continuous layer.  It 
appears that the liquid Li-Al wetted to the alumina, perhaps with the hydrogen 
and high temperature cleaning of the alumina surface.  With the wetting, the 
surface tension of the liquid metal, 

[Vo]:3 phase Voltage Compression and Expansion

2015-02-20 Thread Harvey Norris
 Here we compare what is delivered when the series combinations of air core 
secondaries are all connected from a method delivering 60 degrees which 
vectorially sums to appear as an equilateral triangle producing near zero 
voltage in that combination; to that opposite circuit connection whereby the 
vector summation is made with two 120 degree angle separations in time. Here 
that theorized opposite result is actually in deviance to what is expected by 
the internal compressive voltage measurement made as the standard reference 
frame. I have made extensive mental inpections of the possibilities involved 
with taking three coils in series and applying the double negative solution. 
The double negative is simply a wiring compensation made by spatial reversal. 
In this situation we have three spiral sets of coils in series, each recording 
a magnetic flux change from its directly adjacent three phase primary source of 
vibration. When all of these connection methods on identically wound spirals 
across the three phase source are made from an identical wiring method they can 
be shown to be in relative symmetry whereby an average 4.4 volts/phase sums to 
a cancellation showing a third of a volt. By turning the middle seriesed coil 
in space over now the triple voltage summation reads 9.7 volts. This is about 
10% more then what is predicted by the vector analysis assuming that the 
opposite of the standard reference frame will in fact appear as that result, 
which in this case it does not. It does not because it does not appear as the 
supplemental phase angle in time that adds to 180 degrees to the initial 
measurement being used as the standard reference frame. In this case the 
measurement employing 60 degree angles to determine the distance in time 
between them does so for the primary signals themselves mirroring a copied 
action on the secondaries. But when the measurement is made differently using 
the same 120 degree primary phase input it records the addition of the 
secondary to secondary mutual induction. The two methods of measurement give 
different results...These measurements are made from the top three poles of the 
666 machine where each starting phase voltage measurement is made from a 50 ft 
spiral spool of Radio shack Megacable speaker wire. ~ 5 volt stator phase 
voltage input /delta phase. Three phase air core secondaries each record 4.3, 
4.3 and 4.5 volts.https://www.flickr.com/photos/harvich/16570768661/The phase 
angles are calculated by a triple voltage meter triangulation employing both 
single and double series measurements of voltage across the three element 
chain. The three voltage magnitudes are geometrically shown as drawn 
measurements using a drawing program derived from information of angles between 
vectors derived by applying the law of cos. The drawing program confirms the 
law of cos angle predictions as any three magnitudes can be formed into a 
triangle with the Atrix drawing program, and the resultant properties will show 
the inside phase angles, again corroborating what has already been derived 
using the law of cos. So here we see a drawing of this symmetry test of voltage 
compression athttps://www.flickr.com/photos/harvich/15952171743/Triple seriesed 
voltage expansion from 3 phase 
symmetryhttps://www.flickr.com/photos/harvich/16571697322/In order to PROOVE a 
time distortion process, first you have to demonstrate that your sources of 3 
phase voltages divided in time three ways are in fact symmetrical with one 
another, and this requirement is secured when we show those sources placed in 
series to show the closest to zero voltage cancellation the system approaches. 
Then we can PREDICT what the voltages will be if no time distortion occurs when 
we reverse all the wiring connections in the chain. The prediction will be the 
supplemental angle adding to 180 degrees to the one found on the compression 
test. Here we find that the actual test of wire reversal produces a result 
showing phase angles expanded in time reference points in triplicate. A total 
of 30 degrees has been added to a 240 degree time referenced one. The simple 
vastly overlooked aspect in the building and discovery involved with three 
phase air core transformers is the fact that an EXTRA magnetic reaction occurs 
between those three phase secondaries themselves; where by an accidental or 
beneficial consequence of the arrangement becomes the fact now two and not one 
magnetic influences ensue one each secondary, first the main primary coupling 
one, now added by a secondary to secondary one, each making the cyclic voltage 
appearance of unobvious energy to appear further apart in time then their 
primary designations designed them to be. In the laws of primary designations, 
only two of three series segments could contribute the totality of their 
voltages on the triple series voltage output as referenced from the middle 
phase in the chain. Now more then twice is obtained as the 

[Vo]:LENR is not pseudo-science, is pre-science

2015-02-20 Thread Peter Gluck
Dear Friends,

It is here:

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2015/02/a-tragic-and-expensive-confusion.html

and it is true To be believed by all honest people, we have to add some
certainties- experimental to what exists now.

Peter


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com


Re: [Vo]: Dark Matter

2015-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
Another one for Stewie:

http://phys.org/news/2015-02-dark-mass-extinctions-geologic-upheavals.html

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Scientists believe they might have detected dark matter for the first time –
 streaming from our very own Sun.

 If confirmed, it would be one of the biggest breakthroughs in the quest to
 better understand the universe.


 Read more:
 http://www.3news.co.nz/world/astronomers-claim-dark-matter-breakthrough-2014102211#ixzz3Gu8tGFYT

 Wait until they find out it is inflating into Dark Energy and causing our
 weather...



Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-20 Thread mixent
In reply to  Bob Higgins's message of Thu, 19 Feb 2015 15:08:57 -0700:
Hi,

Note that the alumina tube will expand somewhat with heating.


Alan Goldwater is working on a complete description of this that is being
reviewed.  One thing I recently added was the 2-volume, 2-temperature
calculation, which, even with the ideal gas formula cuts the theoretical
pressure to about 60%.  I think Alan may be planning to discuss with you
the 2-volume, 2-temperature calculation extended with the van der Walls
formulation.  So, Alan created a document walking through the volumes and
mass calculations for the fuel and it is being reviewed at this time - it
still is not ready with all of the effects.  However, there is no reason
not to give you what he is starting with to see if you come up with the
same pressure estimates.  The primary heated volume having the fuel was
calculated to be 0.844ml, and the cooler dead volume was 0.611ml.  The best
estimates of the fuel (by Alan) was 0.565g of Vale T255 Ni + 0.105g of
LiAlH4.  The initial fuel volume displacement estimate was 0.177ml which
reduces the internal volume of the heated area.

The alumina tube ID was 3.81mm, and the OD of the rod taking up the dead
space was 3.17mm.  The OD was slightly under 6.35mm (1/4), leaving a wall
thickness of about 1.25mm.  The sintered Ni rod that remained was about
3.15mm diameter.  The Li-Al film on the ID of the tube is estimated to be
25-100 microns in thickness.  Aside from the dimensions, there is no way to
estimate the proximity of the OD of the sintered Ni and the ID of the
alumina.

Bob

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Mark Jurich jur...@hotmail.com wrote:

   Hi Bob:

Thank you so much for the rather concise/informative update involving
 the Dog Bone Explosion Run.  I have a couple comments and questions to ask
 and I am hoping you know the answers to them or can direct me or this note
 to someone who might know.

 The “hoped” (or planned) weight % of Ni Powder in the fuel/charge was
 indeed 90%.  My current estimate puts it at slightly above 84%.  I realize
 that when you wrote 90% the implied error is +/- 10%, but I believe we are
 narrowing in to this value.  Of course, this is based on the latest MFMP
 Information and is still subject to review.  We are all anxiously awaiting
 the next update concerning the fuel/charge amount.

 Do you know what Alumina Tube Inside Diameter and Wall Thickness is?  I
 would like to verify these values and attempt to determine whether the
 Hydrogen Gas Pressure (or what Hydrogen Gas Pressure) might cause the
 Alumina Tube to fracture.  A link to the Alumina Tube Material Data Sheet
 would be extremely helpful.

 If you follow some of the links here at Vortex-L, my current estimate for
 the maximum pressure is 9641 psi +/- at least 10% error.

 Do you know what the Outside Diameter of the Sintered Ni Rod was?  I know
 it may have been mentioned before.  I am curious if there was any
 noticeable gap between the rod and the Alumina Wall.

 FYI:

 Here are the links to the fuel/charge materials used in this experiment,
 as far as I know:


 http://www.vale.com/EN/business/mining/nickel/NickelProducts/T255%20-%20Premium.pdf
 http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/aldrich/199877

 Thanks,
 Mark Jurich


  *From:* Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:35 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

  I received the broken shards of the alumina tube from the MFMP
 Parkhomov-like experiment from Ryan Hunt.  The intent was to have analyzed
 the metal film on the inside of the alumina to see if it is Li-Al alloy and
 to try to re-assemble the pieces to form at least one full circumference of
 the tube.  So far, piecing the tube together has been unsuccessful;
 however, I have found 2 pieces each having a large portion of the
 circumference - in one case 94 degrees of an arc and in another 106
 degrees.  In both cases, the ID of the alumina tube is completely covered
 with the metal film with no visual evidence at the boundaries of the metal
 tapering in thickness.  Statistically, there is nothing to suggest that
 these pieces were centered on the bottom of the tube.  Also, none of the
 shards show any transition from covered to uncovered with metal.

 Based on this, I surmise that the interior of the tube at 1057C had a
 complete circumferential ring of liquid Li-Al in a thin continuous layer.
 It appears that the liquid Li-Al wetted to the alumina, perhaps with the
 hydrogen and high temperature cleaning of the alumina surface.  With the
 wetting, the surface tension of the liquid metal, and the high interior
 pressure, I believe the liquid metal was forced to cover the inner
 circumference of the tube while it was liquid.  The chemical effect of the
 Li on the alumina may also have been instrumental in the wetting of the
 metal solution to the ceramic.  There is no supporting evidence for a
 gravity fed river of 

Re: [Vo]:Explosion May Be Out of Control LENR

2015-02-20 Thread AlanG
My final report on the pressure is now available at 
http://tinyurl.com/pdrd224


It includes corrections for thermal expansion and the van der Waals 
effect. Your comments and suggestions will be welcome as always.


AlanG

On 2/20/2015 8:28 AM, Bob Higgins wrote:

Yes Bob,   Thanks.

The effect due to thermal expansion has been evaluated by Alan 
Goldwater to be a fraction of a percent.  This pales in comparison to 
the ~40% effect of the 2-volume 2-temperature calculation, the ~12% 
effect of van der Walls vs. ideal gas, and the uncertainties in the 
actual mass of LiAlH4.  But, it should be a part of the calculation.


Another effect that could be at least as large is the mechanical 
expansion of the alumina tube under the forces of the high pressure.  
Thermal expansion increases the size of both the displacement rod and 
the tube, but mechanical strain would only increase the tube diameter, 
causing a bigger change in the dead volume.


Bob Higgins





Re: [Vo]: Dark Matter

2015-02-20 Thread ChemE Stewart
Let's assume dark matter is quantum vacuum than an increase in vacuum
density will make it hard for life to exist, which fits the weak Anthropic
principle.  That implies we exist right now because the local vacuum
levels allow it, which can/will change over time.

We need to get off this hollow rock and spread our DNA...

Stewart

On Friday, February 20, 2015, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Another one for Stewie:

 http://phys.org/news/2015-02-dark-mass-extinctions-geologic-upheavals.html

 On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 3:41 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
 javascript:; wrote:
  Scientists believe they might have detected dark matter for the first
 time –
  streaming from our very own Sun.
 
  If confirmed, it would be one of the biggest breakthroughs in the quest
 to
  better understand the universe.
 
 
  Read more:
 
 http://www.3news.co.nz/world/astronomers-claim-dark-matter-breakthrough-2014102211#ixzz3Gu8tGFYT
 
  Wait until they find out it is inflating into Dark Energy and causing
 our
  weather...