[Vo]:more about basic premises of LENR

[Peter Gluck]

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/09/sep-9-2016-lenr-bit-about-its-basic.html

just a bit but...

peter

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

[Vo]:SAFIRE and the Plasmatron

[Axil Axil]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K_GBBspZjs

Building on the past year of experimentation and analysis, the SAFIRE
Project is moving into Phase 2, which takes the lessons from the Phase 1
Proof of Concept Prototype into a much larger chamber. Phase 1 ended on a
cliff-hanger with indications of fusion and transient million-fold CME-like
eruptions. Monty will present some aspects of the new chamber design, and
also explain some of the equally challenging tasks of building SAFIRE Phase
2.

Is Safire a plasmatron?

http://rexresearch.com/chernetskii/chernetskii.htm

A russian scientist: Alexander Chernetsky experimented with a hydrogen
plasma reactor called a Plasmatron that produced a COP of 5. Since there is
nothing new under the Sun, the Safire experiment could be the plasmatron.
We might make some deductions derived from Safire so far. If it is
producing He3, from hydrogen fusion, then the experiments should be dead
from gamma radiation or at least have radiation sickness.

The fact that Safire experimenters all look healthy speaks to the prospect
that the reaction that is producing the hydrogen fusion if any must be
LENR. We assume that thermalization of gamma is a result of Bose
condensation (BEC) in the reaction. This BEC might be caused by a
superconductivity of hydrogen going on.

The Safire experimenters claim that they see layering of the hydrogen
plasma in many bands with positive and negative ions segregated in each
layer. This might indicate that a process of "hole" superconductivity may
be occurring.

The hallmark of the LENR reaction is the segregation of protons (holes)
from electrons where the LENR reaction is occurring in the electron
(negative ion) band.

I would advise Safire to look for RF radiation from Spin waves formed in
the negative ion band(s) as well as the emission of mesons containing
strange quarks. These mesons will decay into muons and electrons.

The fusion that Safire is seeing might be coming from muon catalyzed fusion
which occurs when muons find a pair of protons to orbit.

This process being currently observed in the Safire experiment has been of
interest to LENR theorists in Russia for many years as follows:

http://www.jeanemanning.ca/articles/russian_discoveries.php


Atlantis
 Rising
( June 2002 )FORMER IRON CURTAIN HID REVOLUTIONARY RESEARCH

CONFERENCES REVEAL ENERGY DISCOVERIES FROM FORMER SOVIET UNION

... A focus on the East must include the late Professor Aleksandr
Chernetskii of Moscow. He developed a plasma generator said to convert
vacuum energy into electricity. A press release at the time quoted
Chernetskii as saying experiments with different circuits proved that the
energy output was always greater than the input. The mysterious effect was
called the self-generating discharge. One experiment with a powerful plasma
unit burned out the huge megawatt electrical substation of the Moscow
Aviation Institute. The discharge had reached a critical point in which
superstrong current flowed from the generator and back into wires to the
substation. In an experiment with an input of 700 watts, the generator
produced nearly five times as much.

Re: [Vo]:Co59 Beta decay rates on Magnetar surface

[Jones Beene]

From: Roarty, Francis X 

*   Yep, no one wants to believe significant levels of time dilation and 
Lorentzian contraction can occur when gas loads in the interstitial space and 
defects of metal lattices but it is the easiest solution to multiple anomalies.

At the most recent Bay Area meetup, which I missed, the following was presented 
-- which involves anomalous heat from gas phase Pd-D. It sounds a lot like the 
design of CoolEssence (Moddel et al) except they predict real fusion.

Quote: “The engine design is based around nanoparticles (of palladium) trapped 
in a proton conducting ceramic (zirconia). Fuel (deuterium) moves through the 
ceramic freely, and is taken up by the sponge-like nanoparticles. 

http://files.meetup.com/19011604/Curt%20Brown%20talk--Slides%20of%20BACF%20Meetup%20August%2027th.pdf

RE: [Vo]:Co59 Beta decay rates on Magnetar surface

[Stephen Cooke]

In case it is interesting to some I found this interesting presentation on soft 
Soft Gamma Repeaters and Magnetars.
http://www2011.mpe.mpg.de/363-heraeus-seminar/Contributions/3Wednesday/morning/KHurley.pdf

I appreciate that we are talking about very strong magnetic fields and rather 
specific conditions in neutron stars here but their may be some insights 
lurking in the data.
I did find the spectra of the rather broad and familiar looking spectra from 
the soft gamma sources interesting but that might be pure coincidence of 
course. Im curious where that broad spectra comes from. If it is a 
bremsstrahlung origin, a relativistic effect or some other cause.
here is another interesting link giving a good background:
http://solomon.as.utexas.edu/magnetar.html
And here is another very recent but possibly related article very bright X-ray 
sources that might or might not actually be related somehow. 
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Avoiding_traffic_jam_creates_impossibly_bright_lighthouse_999.html
Stephen

> From: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 13:53:43 +0200
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: [Vo]:Co59 Beta decay rates on Magnetar surface
> 
> I wonder if the following linked recent paper can be interesting to some here 
> especially Axil and Eric?
> 
> http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10509-016-2830-0
> 
> It's concerning changes in beta decay rates in the presence of  magnetic 
> fields on magnetars.
> 
> I have so far only read the abstract but I think it could be interesting.
> 
> Stephen
  

RE: [Vo]:Co59 Beta decay rates on Magnetar surface

[Stephen Cooke]

Hi Bob,
Here is another interesting paper on Magnetars:
http://cds.cern.ch/record/428499/files/9912301.pdf
I suppose this one could be particularly interesting to Axil maybe.
Stephen

From: frobertc...@hotmail.com
To: stephen_coo...@hotmail.com; vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Co59 Beta decay rates on Magnetar surface
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 16:10:04 +











Revision/addition of recent message to Stephen--
 
Stephen—
 
I agree that the data from the magnetars are important.  It may be important in 
getting to a unified theory linking gravity and EM fields.   The absence of 
spectra may even identify dark matter—hydrinos for example.   Mills’s theory may
 see the light of day from magnetars.
 
The data, combined with the note from the recent Pam Mosier-Boss etal  paper 
summarizing the Pd-D work over the years for everybody—including for DOD 
presentation for Congress in a couple weeks—regarding super conductivity, is 
intriguing
 to say the least.  Alain’s (of Paris) early note about this paper being 
important is right on..
 
The large magnetic fields should make it possible to discern spin energy states 
associated with various nuclear species.  Their separation—differential 
energies—in a strong gravitational field may show how angular momentum 
associated with
 spin are linked to mass energy and hence gravity.  It may be that Plank’s 
quanta of angular momentum (h/2pi) is noticeably greater at the surface of a 
magnetar.   The study of such stars with different magnetic/gravitational 
fields will become the focus of
 cosmology soon, if not already the focus as you suggest—a hot topic.  
 
I continue to speculate that the coupling of spin energy to orbital spin energy 
states of electrons in a metal lattice is key to understanding how the LENR 
occurs without much normal 2-body high energy physics radiation—neutrons, gammas
 etc.   
 
Bob Cook
 
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Stephen—
 
I agree that the data from the magnetars are important.  It may be important in 
getting to a unified theory linking gravity and EM fields.   The absence of 
spectra may even identify dark matter—hydrinos for example.  

 
Tis data combined with the note from the recent Pam Mosier-Boss paper 
summarizing the Pd-D work over the years for everybody—including for DOD 
presentation for Congress in a couple
 
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Thank you very much for this link Bob. 



It looks like an interesting paper.



It looks like the phenomena on the surface of magnetars is a hot topic this 
year.



I wonder if this can be an effective data source forand analogue for 
conditions present in LENR? At the very least they should give some insight 
about the magnetic nature of physical processes involved in particle decays and
 interactions that may be applicable even in lower magnetic fields.



Perhaps the local magnetic field in a nucleus at fm distances has impacts on 
nucleon stability and decay rates either directly or through resonance 
phenomena, perhaps at quark level. 



If so it would be interesting to know if there can still be significant 
influence say at a few hundred fm if the magnetic moment and available energy 
states are high.



I wonder if their are any other interesting observational indicators on 
Magnetars it would be interesting maybe to see if the spectra can reveal the 
isotope ratios of elements. I suppose this might be easily possible for lighter
 elements and maybe due to the magnetic field from fine structure 
characteristics of the spectra. UV and X-Ray spectra could also be interesting 
especially if they can reveal something about the excitation state of the 
electrons in the atoms and the nucleus
 excitation states, as well as more macroscopic X-ray and RF radiation effects 
due to the plasma effects. Even though it's very different place and overall 
conditions than a LENR device, perhaps there are a lot of LENR physics 
analogues at macro scale that
 are applicable to LENR on micro scale that can be observed there.








On 07 Sep 2016, at 06:33, Bob Cook  wrote:











Another free document regarding much of the same theory and data regarding 
reactions in high magnetic fields can be found here:
 
http://arxiv.org/abs/arXiv:1603.01898
 
Note the importance of spin energy and the energy released by neutrinos; also 
the significant data regarding reaction parameters for mid-mass nuclei.
 
This adds to the idea of the large magnetic fields created locally by SPP’s on 
metal surfaces or lattice cavities.
 
Bob Cook
 
 
 
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