Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 7:12 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > You will certain not prevail in this media. Let me tell you something. In > my country, Brazil, evangelicals were suppressed or ridiculed by the > catholic church and mainstream media. But, John Pope II made the grave > mistake of alienating the popular movement of the church that helped bring > down the military dictatorship. What happened is that evangelicals seized > the opportunity to grab a lot Catholics, despite all contrary pressure from > the media. > > The point is that you should get a distance from middle class and target > the poor. Forget the 1% complaints, focus on the lower 10% against the rest > (that is obviously much more difficult in developed countries, since on > these you have a much stronger "safety net"). Eventually, you will reach a > larger base. > I have a life -- a political life -- outside of an interest in the likes of Cold Fusion (I hate the cowardly 'LENR' euphemism -- however 'more accurate' it is). Socialism is the real goal for Humanity -- whatever petit-bourgeois boobs here opine. The two intersect -- and always will. Whatever they believe. I've clearly and logically stated as much. I don't shy away from trouble. Ask the local deathsquad. > > > 2016-12-07 20:58 GMT-02:00 Che : > >> >> >> The immediate problem is that such social types usually intend to get the >> last word... because there's an audience. So it's not really possible in >> this totalitarian society to simply assert inconvenient truths about >> Capitalism -- and posit the alternative -- without being attacked. >> >> >>
Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away
You will certain not prevail in this media. Let me tell you something. In my country, Brazil, evangelicals were suppressed or ridiculed by the catholic church and mainstream media. But, John Pope II made the grave mistake of alienating the popular movement of the church that helped bring down the military dictatorship. What happened is that evangelicals seized the opportunity to grab a lot Catholics, despite all contrary pressure from the media. The point is that you should get a distance from middle class and target the poor. Forget the 1% complaints, focus on the lower 10% against the rest (that is obviously much more difficult in developed countries, since on these you have a much stronger "safety net"). Eventually, you will reach a larger base. 2016-12-07 20:58 GMT-02:00 Che : > > > The immediate problem is that such social types usually intend to get the > last word... because there's an audience. So it's not really possible in > this totalitarian society to simply assert inconvenient truths about > Capitalism -- and posit the alternative -- without being attacked. > > >
Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Che > What else. do you know? > I guarantee that I have seen more of communism than you. > I guess what you meant was you have no argument. > Lennart > What's it like to be a senile old fart, Lennart? > > On Dec 6, 2016 23:25, "Che" wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Lennart Thornros >> wrote: >> >>> Che you hit the wrong guy. The bureaucracy cannot take any thing from >>> me except my pension. They try but . . . >>> You believe in an idea almost 200 years old andays refuse to see that >>> communism has failed since the 1850is . That is doing the same thing over >>> aND over again. . .. Move to Venezuela. >>> Lennartout >>> >> >> >> Speak about things you actually understand. >> >> >> >> >>> >>> On Dec 6, 2016 18:32, "Che" wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Lennart Thornros wrote: > Che, > Venezuela, Cuba! > How about accepting bygones, live today and plan for the future. > Have a goal. > Maybe moving to Venezuela could be yours? Bring some food as they are > starving. If you like the system , well then I suppose food is a minor > problem. > Blah, blah blah I'll wait to see what you have to say when the looming next stage of the World financial crisis loots your 'wealth'. > Lennart > > On Dec 6, 2016 18:04, "Che" wrote: > > > The problem remains the *capitalist* organization of society. NOT > automation. > > No capitalists are EVER going to fix it. That's a job for Socialism. > Opinions to the contrary are worthless. > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > >> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/technology/amazon-moves-to >> -cut-checkout-line-promoting-a-grab-and-go-experience.html >> >> Amazon Moves to Cut Checkout Line, Promoting a Grab-and-Go Experience >> >> The millions of jobs working the checkout lines are going to go away. >> >> http://www.bls.gov/ooh/sales/cashiers.htm >> >> Upto 3.5 million jobs are on the cutting block payung about 20K a >> year. What will Trump do about this new automation threat? >> > > > >>
Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away
Che What else. do you know? I guarantee that I have seen more of communism than you. I guess what you meant was you have no argument. Lennart On Dec 6, 2016 23:25, "Che" wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Lennart Thornros > wrote: > >> Che you hit the wrong guy. The bureaucracy cannot take any thing from me >> except my pension. They try but . . . >> You believe in an idea almost 200 years old andays refuse to see that >> communism has failed since the 1850is . That is doing the same thing over >> aND over again. . .. Move to Venezuela. >> Lennartout >> > > > Speak about things you actually understand. > > > > >> >> On Dec 6, 2016 18:32, "Che" wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Lennart Thornros >>> wrote: >>> Che, Venezuela, Cuba! How about accepting bygones, live today and plan for the future. Have a goal. Maybe moving to Venezuela could be yours? Bring some food as they are starving. If you like the system , well then I suppose food is a minor problem. >>> >>> Blah, blah blah I'll wait to see what you have to say when the >>> looming next stage of the World financial crisis loots your 'wealth'. >>> >>> >>> >>> Lennart On Dec 6, 2016 18:04, "Che" wrote: The problem remains the *capitalist* organization of society. NOT automation. No capitalists are EVER going to fix it. That's a job for Socialism. Opinions to the contrary are worthless. On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 2:01 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/05/technology/amazon-moves-to > -cut-checkout-line-promoting-a-grab-and-go-experience.html > > Amazon Moves to Cut Checkout Line, Promoting a Grab-and-Go Experience > > The millions of jobs working the checkout lines are going to go away. > > http://www.bls.gov/ooh/sales/cashiers.htm > > Upto 3.5 million jobs are on the cutting block payung about 20K a > year. What will Trump do about this new automation threat? > >>> >
Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > It's a waste of time to argue with those with petite bourgeois mentality, > at least in Marxist terms, that's what I mean. > The immediate problem is that such social types usually intend to get the last word... because there's an audience. So it's not really possible in this totalitarian society to simply assert inconvenient truths about Capitalism -- and posit the alternative -- without being attacked. I wonder what that sounds like, eh..? > > > 2016-12-07 16:12 GMT-02:00 Che : > >> >> I don't even know what you getting at, fella. >> >
Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away
It's a waste of time to argue with those with petite bourgeois mentality, at least in Marxist terms, that's what I mean. 2016-12-07 16:12 GMT-02:00 Che : > > I don't even know what you getting at, fella. >
Re: [Vo]:daily LENR Info
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Peter Gluck wrote: > > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/12/dec-07-2016-lenr-info.html > > peter > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com > Still positing a capitalist solution to problems which can only be solved by World socialism. For that matter: Cold Fusion's perpetual funding issues are a DIRECT result of the capitalist dis-allocation of the Planet's -- and Humanity's -- resources. (And smears against historical stalinist immiseration c/o Imperialist encirclement are wholly beside the point.)
Re: [Vo]:Newtonian Gravity and General Relativity inside a spherical shell.
Well known result -- gravitational time dilation has to do with the gravitational potential, not the strength of the field. Simple gedanken: Drop a rock through a slender shaft into a spherical hollow cut out of the center of a spherical planet. The rock has more kinetic energy when it gets to the center of the planet. Turn the rock (along with its kinetic energy) into photons, and beam them back up the shaft. At the top of the shaft, catch the beam and turn it back into a rock. The rock must have the same mass at the end as it had to start with (or something's very wrong), which is smaller than the mass it had at the bottom of the shaft (due its additional kinetic energy which shows up as a mass excess). This can only be true if the beam of light was *redder* at the top of the shaft than the bottom. So, there must have been a gravitational red-shift as the light climbed the shaft. So, the /frequency/ of the light at the top of the shaft must be *lower* than the frequency at the bottom of the shaft. But the *total number of wave crests* in the beam of light can't change. (You can count them, using appropriate equipment; in that sense they behave like marbles.) A certain number of wave crests in the beam entered the shaft at the bottom; the same number of wave crests must have come out the top. So, if the /frequency/ measured by an observer at the top of the shaft is /lower/ than the frequency measured at the bottom of the shaft, the wave crests must have taken more time to exit the top of the shaft than they took to enter the bottom of the shaft, and so, /time must be passing faster for the observer at the top of the shaft. / On 12/07/2016 12:53 AM, H LV wrote: According to the shell theorem the gravitational force on a test mass inside a hollow sphere is every where zero. This paper argues that this situation is not equivalent from the standpoint of General Relativity to the situation where gravity falls to zero far outside the sphere. They conclude that General Relativity predicts that a clock located inside a hollow sphere should run slower than a clock located outside the hollow sphere. (By contrast most people are familiar with the fact that General relativity predicts a clock should run faster as the force of gravity approaches zero far from a gravitational body) This could provide a laboratory test of Newtonian gravity which predicts that both clocks should run at the same rate. https://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.4428.pdf Harry
[Vo]:daily LENR Info
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2016/12/dec-07-2016-lenr-info.html peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
[Vo]:Missile Problem with corrections.
Because (the first signal from ph 1) in the phase rotation has less of a retrograde influence from the combined actions of mutual inductance in the secondaries themselves:it appears to have less of a dip from the rotating time vector. The second signal from phase 2 has a more pronounced dip from the combined rotating time vectors. What this shows by solitary voltage meter measurements of each phase acting alone in time is that the second phase will loose vibration at the cost of a much greater induced vibration to be shown on its predecessor vibration in time; in summo UNEQUAL ACTION/REACTION forces shown with magnetic forces in phase rotation timings. The conceptual problem shown with correspondingly shorter and longer interaction times between two missiles fired at each other with ships maintaining the same separation distance traveling in a circle is shown at missile | | | | || | | | || missile | | | | Taken from commentary at 666 Machine Secondaries showing influence of rotating time vectorDual Channel Scoping of 666 Machine Secondaries showing influence of rotating time vector | | | | || | | | || Dual Channel Scoping of 666 Machine Secondaries showing influence of rotati... Due to the higher voltages received by the secondaries this demonstration is made with the alternator rotating w... | | | | __._,_._._,_.___Pioneering the Applications of Interphasal Resonances http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/teslafy/
Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away
On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: > Che, you are barking on the wrong trees. I think it would be better to > find a better tree. Like me :P > I don't even know what you getting at, fella. Stick to Cold Fusion, eh? It's a subject we all share and know precious little about, here -- not unlike the naive-yet-vociferous politix we have to witness on occasion. However, when people here inevitably bring up the relationship of new teknology to Human society, discussion invariably comes up against the very real limits of capitalist organizational capabilities. I note this limitation (a limitation based in ideology and propaganda and ignorance) -- and explain what can certainly be the ONLY possible solution to this pressing issue. Your nay-saying OTOH is simply pure hubristic, smug ignorance of all that. In actual fact -- you're only aiding the oligarchs and their minions in maintaining their control over Humanity. I thought Cold Fusion was about setting Humanity free. Nothing free about the way Capitalism sits on our collective sleeping chests, like some parasitic Succubus. > > > 2016-12-07 1:23 GMT-02:00 Che : > >> >> >> On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Lennart Thornros >> wrote: >> >>> Che you hit the wrong guy. The bureaucracy cannot take any thing from >>> me except my pension. They try but . . . >>> You believe in an idea almost 200 years old andays refuse to see that >>> communism has failed since the 1850is . That is doing the same thing over >>> aND over again. . .. Move to Venezuela. >>> Lennartout >>> >> >> >>
Re: [Vo]:OT: The Shortest Papers
link to the paper on writer's block https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1311997/pdf/jaba00061-0143a.pdf On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 11:49 AM, H LV wrote: > The Shortest Ever Papers > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvvkJT8myeI > > Harry > >
[Vo]:OT: The Shortest Papers
The Shortest Ever Papers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvvkJT8myeI Harry
[Vo]:Krivit and Ravnitzky in Scientific American
See: It's Not Cold Fusion,...But It's Something An experiment that earned Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann widespread ridicule in 1989 wasn't necessarily bogus By Steven B. Krivit, Michael J. Ravnitzky on December 7, 2016 https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/guest-blog/its-not-cold-fusion-but-its-something/
Re: [Vo]:more jobs are going away
Che, you are barking on the wrong trees. I think it would be better to find a better tree. Like me :P 2016-12-07 1:23 GMT-02:00 Che : > > > On Tue, Dec 6, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Lennart Thornros > wrote: > >> Che you hit the wrong guy. The bureaucracy cannot take any thing from me >> except my pension. They try but . . . >> You believe in an idea almost 200 years old andays refuse to see that >> communism has failed since the 1850is . That is doing the same thing over >> aND over again. . .. Move to Venezuela. >> Lennartout >> > > >
