Re: [Vo]:Uploaded Mengoli Ni-H paper
JonesBeenewrote: > This is a surprisingly thorough and fair paper but it is twenty years old. > It begs to be updated. > I believe the authors stopped working on this long ago. There is nothing for them to update. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Uploaded Mengoli Ni-H paper
Note that this paper describes a 3-day heat after death event, on p. 16: The plain curve of fig. 9 emphasizes both the remarkable temperature increase paralleling electrolysis (I = 0.150 A) and a quite unexpected phenomenon: after 240 min of electrolysis, in o.c. conditions, the electrolyte temperature did not decrease to its original value. In other words, the system showed a persistent thermal “after effect”: 0.300 W were still emitted by the electrode 4000 min after the cell had been taken to o.c. The terminology is a little obscure: "After effect" means heat after death. o.c. means open circuit; i.e. turned off. 4000 min = 66 hours or ~3 days. That is the longest Ni-H heat after death event I have ever heard of. The few other heat after death events with Ni-H are reported in other papers, but I do not recall any as long as this. I assume heat after death is sustained by hydrogen or deuterium outgassing from a hydride, and reacting near the surface. The heat only lasts as long as it takes outgas. That's Ed Storms' hypothesis. It is surprising that it took 3 days to outgas from nickel, because it does not hold much gas. It is indeed "quite unexpected" as the authors say. Look carefully at Fig. 9, p. 17 to see what the authors mean. - Jed
[Vo]:Papers not uploaded to LENR-CANR.org
I have uploaded a few old papers lately. I may upload some more. Let me explain. Here is Peter Hagelstein's favorite index to LENR-CANR.org: http://lenr-canr.org/DetailOnly.htm The papers are listed by first author in alphabetical order. Many of the papers are not on file. The first 12 are not on file. Number 13 Accomazzi is on file. You can see the abstract and hyperlink is shown. Thanks to Dieter Britz and Ed Storms, I have copies of most of the ones that are listed but not on file. If you would like a copy of one, you should contact Dieter, or Abd, who I believe is now the keeper of the flame. You could contact me, but they may have better copies. I have not uploaded papers for various reasons, such as: 1. They are protected by copyright which the publishers wish to enforce. In some cases they contacted me and asked me to remove papers. 2. Some of the authors did not grant permission. 3. I did not think the paper was worth bothering with. If you see a paper in this list which you think it should be uploaded to LENR-CANR.org, let me know. Many of my copies are of poor quality. Years ago it was a lot of tedious work to convert them into readable text. In many cases I had to type the whole thing over again. When I prepared the Fleischmann letters for publication, I found that the latest version of OCR, Acrobat and voice input programs do a better job than they used to. They were still not up to converting Fleischmann's faxes, but they can handle blurry text better than they used to. So, if you would like to see a paper uploaded, let me know. Especially if you are volunteering to help proofread the paper before I upload it. - Jed
[Vo]:Holmlid does it - real "cold fusion" neutrons - maybe for the fist time in LENR
>From the start of LENR it was thought by the experts that deuterium fusion >should yield far more neutrons than helium – based on knowledge of hot fusion >branching ratio. Yet neutrons were almost never found. Now in order to answer two problems Holmlid gives us a brilliant answer – and finds both neutrons and muons. The neutrons are actually produced in D2 gas which is even more This could be a game changer. Unfortunately the new paper is behind a paywall, but most of you know how to use sci-hub with a DOI number… which is: 10.1080/15361055.2017.1421366
RE: [Vo]:Uploaded Mengoli Ni-H paper
From: Jed Rothwell ➢ This is one of the most comprehensive papers about Ni-H cold fusion: Mengoli, G., et al., Anomalous heat effects correlated with electrochemical hydriding of nickel. Nuovo Cimento Soc. Ital. Fis. A, 1998. 20 D: p. 331 http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/MengoliGanomaloush.pdf ➢ I have some doubts about this work, but I will refrain from discussing it for now, and let the readers decide. This is a surprisingly thorough and fair paper but it is twenty years old. It begs to be updated. Among the controversial conclusions from 1998 there are several worth noting. First there is this: “Compared with the number of negative papers denying the Fleischmann-Pons effect, very few negative results on the H2O-Ni system have been reported”. The authors go on to reject Mills rationale and also that of Bush saying that “The nature of the thermal phenomenon is still very obscure. Mills’ hypothesis is ruled out, at least for the catalytic cycle involving potassium, by the positive results achieved here with Na2CO3 electrolyte. Bush’s hypothesis of “alkali-hydrogen fusion” is ruled out by the occurrence of substantial after-effects [the so-called heat-after- death phenomenon]. END of quote. I think this highlights the disagreement from those who want the field to be related to “cold fusion” with heat coming from a P nuclear fusion event – in contrast with the view of others who accept that excess heat can result from an unknown non-nuclear mechanism – and that fusion is not proven to occur. However, there could be more than one type of anomaly which includes a side effect of “occasional fusion” (rare fusion due to QM tunneling - which serves to obscure the main effect) Mengoli et al say the only relevant dynamic which coordinates well with excess heat is simply the formation of hydride and there is no indication of anything nuclear. Hydride formation is chemical - and for it so show the level of excess heat over extended periods – above that of chemistry and also for this not to show signs of fusion means that actual phenomenon for thermal gain was not yet imagined back in 1998... or else that Mills theory can be modified in some way (Holmlid provides the way). If this paper were to be updated in the context of Holmlid, then a new possibility emerges. That explanation would begin with hydride and progress to a dense storable form of hydrogen – UDH. The formation of UDH alone produces slight thermal gain but less than nuclear. A massive amount of thermal gain due to hot fusion can be realized from reacting UDH with laser ignition. If Holmlid is correct on this last point, then the merger of cold fusion with hot fusion has already happened and this will become the new paradigm of physics.