Re: [Vo]:Outreach for discussion on Znidarsic-Smith genuine UFO reverse engineering using causal reasoning

2021-10-10 Thread William Beaty

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021, Kevin O'Malley wrote:


If you really want to get down to the "natural forces" behind flying
saucers, just read ONE book:  Renato Vesco's "Intercept UFO".  
https://www.amazon.com/Intercept-UFO-Renato-Vesco/dp/B0006WI572


Normally I avoid UFO stuff, but a really kick-ass book, revealing some 
actual secrets (but not the physics/devices,) is:


   American Cosmic  DW Pasulka
   https://www.amazon.com/American-Cosmic-UFOs-Religion-Technology/dp/019069288X

Still no paperback.  I actually bought the hardcover.  Twice!

Note that Tyler D. is "Tyler Durden"


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Re: [Vo]:photons

2021-10-10 Thread Robin
In reply to  Bob Higgins's message of Sun, 10 Oct 2021 13:58:12 -0600:
Hi Bob,
[snip]
>I believe photons to be corpuscles having more than one cycle (sort of like
>a gaussian envelope) but finite in size.  The envelope is a soliton
>solution supported by the nonlinearity of the aether; which is different
>from a linear EM excitation of the aether.  Each photon contains a fixed
>energy as a corpuscle.  You cannot ascribe an energy/cycle because the
>waveform is not sine.  

Then what are frequency/wavelength related to in such an entity?

>Also, within the nonlinearity of the photon
>excitation of the aether, the velocity is different due to the
>nonlinearity.  Photons must have a fixed size, commensurate with the
>electron orbital that can absorb it.  

Try assuming that absorption depends on frequency not size.
Take the swing example. A push at the right moment leads to large oscillations, 
even though the length of the "push" is
much smaller than the amplitude of the oscillation. IOW frequency (timing), not 
size, determines energy transfer.

>Photons propagate completely
>differently than normal linearly excited EM waves.

So where is the frequency dividing line? IOW If radio waves are EM waves, and 
light is photons, then at what frequency
does that change over from EM waves to photons occur?

>
>Photons don't arise from Maxwell's equations because Maxwell's equations
>are a linear description of space.  Maxwell believed there IS an aether and
>his equations reflect this.  Even though the aether was not measured, they
>continued to use Maxwell's equations for normal EM excitation because they
>worked (proving there is an aether).  Those that believe there is no aether
>cannot understand the possibility of a soliton solution for a photon.
>Soliton solutions require a nonlinear medium.  From their perspective, if
>space is empty, how can "nothing" be nonlinear?  From my perspective, the
>existence of photons provides another proof that there is an aether and it
>is nonlinear.

...only if photons are indeed Solitons. 
[snip]
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk 



Re: [Vo]:photons

2021-10-10 Thread Bob Higgins
I believe photons to be corpuscles having more than one cycle (sort of like
a gaussian envelope) but finite in size.  The envelope is a soliton
solution supported by the nonlinearity of the aether; which is different
from a linear EM excitation of the aether.  Each photon contains a fixed
energy as a corpuscle.  You cannot ascribe an energy/cycle because the
waveform is not sine.  Also, within the nonlinearity of the photon
excitation of the aether, the velocity is different due to the
nonlinearity.  Photons must have a fixed size, commensurate with the
electron orbital that can absorb it.  Photons propagate completely
differently than normal linearly excited EM waves.

Photons don't arise from Maxwell's equations because Maxwell's equations
are a linear description of space.  Maxwell believed there IS an aether and
his equations reflect this.  Even though the aether was not measured, they
continued to use Maxwell's equations for normal EM excitation because they
worked (proving there is an aether).  Those that believe there is no aether
cannot understand the possibility of a soliton solution for a photon.
Soliton solutions require a nonlinear medium.  From their perspective, if
space is empty, how can "nothing" be nonlinear?  From my perspective, the
existence of photons provides another proof that there is an aether and it
is nonlinear.

Bob Higgins

On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 1:00 PM Robin 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Photons have a cycle time(T) = 1/frequency.
> Planks constant has the dimension of energy x time.
> So the energy of single cycle photon would be h/T = h x frequency, which
> is the formula for photon energy.
> What does this mean?
> It means that either the photon energy formula only describes the minimal
> energy of a photon, or that all photons only
> comprise a single cycle.
> If multi-cycle photons also exist, then their energy would be a multiple
> of the base photon energy.
>
> Comments?
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk 
>
>


[Vo]:photons

2021-10-10 Thread Robin
Hi,

Photons have a cycle time(T) = 1/frequency.
Planks constant has the dimension of energy x time.
So the energy of single cycle photon would be h/T = h x frequency, which is the 
formula for photon energy.
What does this mean?
It means that either the photon energy formula only describes the minimal 
energy of a photon, or that all photons only
comprise a single cycle.
If multi-cycle photons also exist, then their energy would be a multiple of the 
base photon energy.

Comments?
Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk 



[Vo]:Bosenova of electron clusters

2021-10-10 Thread Axil Axil
Some unrelated independent third party research might serve to validate
Rossi's reaction theory positing  high energy electron production coming
from a Bosenova of what Rossi calls electron clusters embedded in his
plasma.

We know these clusters to actually be polariton condensates.

In the video below, Sveinn Ólafsson is shining a laser spot onto some Ultra
dense hydrogen (UDH) and seeing some interference patterns that he cannot
account for.

https://youtu.be/sZHVG5NYLyQ?t=372

In the article about polaritons lasers, the same interference patterns are
seen in the article as follows:


https://phys.org/news/2019-05-scientists-polariton-nano-laser-room-temperature.html

https://scx1.b-cdn.net/csz/news/800a/2019/4-scientistsat.jpg

also from the underlying source document
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aau9338

https://www.science.org/cms/10.1126/sciadv.aau9338/asset/633596a6-17bf-4994-8948-c14a073e0277/assets/graphic/aau9338-f3.jpeg

What Sveinn is doing is producing what we call  an EVO (aka  polariton
condensate) from an UDH seed when Sveinn excites the UDH with the laser
spot.

Sveinn also reports the appearance of high energy particles coming from the
area where the interference pattern appears corresponding with the laser
spot.

We see at 8:31 in the video, that high energy particles are produced that
we know from Rossi's paper are electrons.

These electrons have an energy of 1.5 MeV. This same energy was the maximum
energy that we saw in the radiation burst that came from the MFMP LENR
experiment upon activation of heat production. That gamma ray burst was
called the "signal" and took the form of breaking radiation whose top
energy was 1.5 MeV from a Bosenova of an electron cluster.

In addition, Sveinn also sees material degradation at the spot of high
energy particle production on the substrate.