RE: [Vo]: MIB persuasions now vladimir b ginzburg

2007-03-14 Thread David Thomson
Hi Esa,

 

 hi so what do you lot think of vladimir b ginzburg?

 seems to be slightly touched in the head about vortices!

Interesting comment to be made on a list called vortex-l.

 

I have corresponded with him and have one of his books.  Unlike my work,
which is completely dimension based and derives straight from the empirical
constants, Ginzburg tries to work within the SM and Relativity theories.  He
is actually quite scholarly and gives a properly referenced history of
vortex structures in ancient and modern physics theories.  He then goes on
to show his own work with regard to modern physics.

 

Far from being touched in the head, if anybody on this list is truly
interested in vortices with regard to physics, they will want to read his
book Prime Elements of Ordinary Matter, Dark Matter  Dark Energy.

 

Dave



Re: [Vo]: MIB persuasions now vladimir b ginzburg

2007-03-14 Thread Esa Ruoho

i didnt mean touched in the head as in whacked out - i just thought maybe
there'd be some people who have studied what he has published regards vortex
theories and spirals, and then wouldve, you know, ended that mib
conversation.
he seemed to be a nice person :)
and i loved that  properly referenced history-list that he had  in one of
his books, obviously my own interest in that wouldve been to see lots on
walter russell and viktor schauberger, but the rest of the list seemed to be
quite fun.
shame again that helicola.com is offline.

On 14/03/07, David Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi Esa,
 hi so what do you lot think of vladimir b ginzburg?
 seems to be slightly touched in the head about vortices!
Interesting comment to be made on a list called vortex-l.
I have corresponded with him and have one of his books.  Unlike my work,
which is completely dimension based and derives straight from the empirical
constants, Ginzburg tries to work within the SM and Relativity theories.  He
is actually quite scholarly and gives a properly referenced history of
vortex structures in ancient and modern physics theories.  He then goes on
to show his own work with regard to modern physics.
Far from being touched in the head, if anybody on this list is truly
interested in vortices with regard to physics, they will want to read his
book Prime Elements of Ordinary Matter, Dark Matter  Dark Energy.
Dave



Re: [Vo]: MIB persuasions now vladimir b ginzburg

2007-03-14 Thread Esa Ruoho

back onlist:

On 14/03/07, David Thomson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  and i loved that  properly referenced history-list that he had  in one
of his books, obviously my own interest in that wouldve been to see lots on
walter russell and viktor schauberger, but the rest of the list seemed to be
quite fun.

Yes, although Ginzburg mentioned Schauberger in glowing terms, he didn't
go into much detail.  This is probably because Viktor Schauberger didn't
explain his theory mathematically, but only practically.  Ginzburg's work is
mathematical in nature.



i did try to give ginzburg some stuff on walter schauberger (who took great
pains to take viktor's realizations back into mathematics and physics and,
well, science), lets see what happens. after all, walter schauberger did
publish quite a bit on the hyperbolic open-path geometry that seemed to mesh
in with everything else. should be interesting to see how the two walters
coincide, walter russell and schauberge.r


shame again that helicola.com is offline.

I wonder what the problem is?  Everything seemed fine last fall when we
were emailing back and forth.  Maybe he got a government contract?



one idea comes to mind, maybe the server has just xpired.


Re: [Vo]: MIB persuasions now vladimir b ginzburg

2007-03-13 Thread Esa Ruoho

hi so what do you lot think of vladimir b ginzburg?
seems to be slightly touched in the head about vortices!
its a shame his website helicola.com is offline - but he has published 3
books, 3 of which are on amazon. seems fun, he even has a thing called the 3
dimensional spiral super-string theory!
seems like a fun person!



On 14/03/07, nothing of worth was said by two or twenty people fighting
amongst themselves