Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote: Aren’t there waste fluids from fossil fuel drilling that haven’t been exploited for lithium as yet? I recall that this has been brought up in the past. If we have cold fusion there will not be much drilling for fossil fuels. I think it will be cheaper,

Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
Bob Higgins rj.bob.higg...@gmail.com wrote: Based on previous energy analyses posted, I am sure Jed would be better suited to comment on the issue of the lithium economy and peak lithium. I doubt this would be a problem. Even in lithium batteries, the lithium is not disintegrated when

RE: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-09 Thread Chris Zell
Aren’t there waste fluids from fossil fuel drilling that haven’t been exploited for lithium as yet? I recall that this has been brought up in the past.

Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-09 Thread Bob Higgins
Based on previous energy analyses posted, I am sure Jed would be better suited to comment on the issue of the lithium economy and peak lithium. Even in lithium batteries, the lithium is not disintegrated when wearing out the battery. When a Li battery is no longer capable of operating at an

RE: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-09 Thread Chris Zell
...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2015 10:30 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances Chris Zell chrisz...@wetmtv.commailto:chrisz...@wetmtv.com wrote: Aren’t there waste fluids from fossil fuel drilling that haven’t been exploited for lithium as yet? I

Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 9 Jun 2015 10:39:37 -0400: Hi, [snip] http://www.seafriends.org.nz/oceano/seawater.htm 0.170 ppm. Granted, it is a lot more abundant than copper, nickel, gold or palladium. At the current rate of World energy usage, and assuming only 33% conversion

Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-09 Thread Jed Rothwell
mix...@bigpond.com wrote: 0.170 ppm. Granted, it is a lot more abundant than copper, nickel, gold or palladium. At the current rate of World energy usage, and assuming only 33% conversion efficiency (i.e. 6 MeV / Li atom), that would last us for 34 million years. Do you mean that is how

Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-09 Thread Eric Walker
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:54 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Of course, if the Li is acting as a nuclear ferry boat transferring neutrons from one isotope to another, then it would last much longer. I like this take on things; I wonder whether there is anything special about lithium apart from

Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 9 Jun 2015 20:59:39 -0400: Hi, [snip] mix...@bigpond.com wrote: 0.170 ppm. Granted, it is a lot more abundant than copper, nickel, gold or palladium. At the current rate of World energy usage, and assuming only 33% conversion efficiency (i.e. 6

Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-09 Thread mixent
In reply to Eric Walker's message of Tue, 9 Jun 2015 20:33:56 -0700: Hi, [snip] On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 2:54 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: Of course, if the Li is acting as a nuclear ferry boat transferring neutrons from one isotope to another, then it would last much longer. I like this take

Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-08 Thread mixent
In reply to Lewan Mats's message of Mon, 8 Jun 2015 07:05:31 +: Hi, [snip] Predicted lithium shortages are leading to novel technologies for recovering the element, now found mostly in salt lakes in South America.

Re: [Vo]:Quest to Mine Seawater for Lithium Advances

2015-06-08 Thread Peter Gluck
I am asking the same in my issue of Ego Out today. We can hope that Li based batteries will be slowly replaced with better sources. Peter On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Lewan Mats mats.le...@nyteknik.se wrote: Predicted lithium shortages are leading to novel technologies for recovering the