Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
NASA seems to have taken an interest in the white blobs on the struts. On Sol 97, they took no less than 8 photos of the same spot, elevation 89.076, azimuth 355.518, with times varying from 02:09:16 to 03:56:48. See: http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=26263cID=268

Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-28 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 26, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: Whatever it is the fact that it only appears on that strut is odd. harry It appears that the globular drops are on another strut or two also. (The strut in the foreground appears to have a few blobs.) The photo: Sol 73, 13:02:13 camera

Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-27 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 26, 2008, at 8:23 AM, Harry Veeder wrote: Whatever it is the fact that it only appears on that strut is odd. harry Maybe one of the oven/chemical experiments sprung a leak and dripped on the strut. The water would have frozen and sublimated, leaving solids behind. The spots

Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-26 Thread Horace Heffner
Why, in 84 days, is a large ice deposit only in that one spot? Why is the frost not somewhat uniform? Keep in mind the photo is upside down. The ground is at the top. The pictures make a lot more sense when flipped 180 degrees. The strut in the foreground is also in the dark, yet has

Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-26 Thread Horace Heffner
Something else that is inconsistent with condensing ice forming on the location in question is that such ice typically forms in a clearly crystalline form, a kind of hoar frost. The white stuff on the strut looks smooth and globular. It might be said that the stuff is melting, but then

Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-26 Thread Harry Veeder
Whatever it is the fact that it only appears on that strut is odd. harry on 26/8/08 4:00 am, Horace Heffner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why, in 84 days, is a large ice deposit only in that one spot? Why is the frost not somewhat uniform? Keep in mind the photo is upside down. The ground is

Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-25 Thread Harry Veeder
could that be frost? harry on 25/8/08 1:47 pm, Horace Heffner at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here are lightened versions of both before and after: Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-25 Thread Horace Heffner
On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Harry Veeder wrote: could that be frost? harry Could be, but it seems to me unlikely, given there is no frost on anything else. A very light morning frost does occur on the ground there at times. If anything, the before picture looks like the ground is

Re: [Vo]:Apparently growing white blobs on Phoenix strut

2008-08-25 Thread leaking pen
unless the differeing heat exchange of the metal causes ot to build frost from the vapor dissapearing from the ground. ive seen that effect with railings here in arizona in the dry dry winters. On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Horace Heffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 25, 2008, at 12:26