[Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Akira Shirakawa
Hello group, Here's a video that will generate MUCH discussion, filmed by Steven Krivit during his visit in Bologna on June 14th: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrTz5Bq6dsA Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa wrote: Here's a video that will generate MUCH discussion, filmed by Steven Krivit during his visit in Bologna on June 14th: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrTz5Bq6dsA I do not see anything controversial about it. He almost forgot to multiply the mass of water times 7 kg,

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Peter Gluck
For such a routine-routine calculation he supposedly made hundreds of...he seems a bit slow. Or too pedagogical? And the output/input ratio( 6.7) has to be divided with at least 3 if we speak about the value of energy- 1kW electric = 3 kW thermal energy. The Defkalion brochure speaks about

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Joshua Cude
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: And the output/input ratio( 6.7) has to be divided with at least 3 if we speak about the value of energy- 1kW electric = 3 kW thermal energy. Considering the temperature of only 100C of the ecat output, the value of

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: For such a routine-routine calculation he supposedly made hundreds of...he seems a bit slow. Or too pedagogical? I have done that calculation many times, but if I were doing it on a blackboard for a video audience in Japanese I doubt I would be as smooth as Rossi was.

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
My only complaint it is that Rossi needs glasses. He finds it difficult to read his own notes.

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Peter Gluck
THe ratio HAS to be made much higher. The story has started from 200:1 according to Focardi. Peter On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Peter Gluck wrote: For such a routine-routine calculation he supposedly made hundreds of...he seems a bit slow. Or

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
It is, but it is either explosive or the power is too slow, like with the experiments that you mention of Focardi.

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Gluck wrote: THe ratio HAS to be made much higher. The story has started from 200:1 according to Focardi. The ratio has been made infinite in some cases. Rossi has run the cells with no power input. As I am sure you know he says this is dangerous. Assuming that is true, it still means

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Peter Gluck
Excuse me I don't get exactly what you are saying.\ It seems there are 2 problems; a) we don't know exactly how the system has to be controlled to give maxim performance i.e. intensity and efficiency (output/input0; b) Rossi is not mastering perfectly the same parameters - he has made scale down

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Roarty, Francis X
...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 2:34 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th) Excuse me I don't get exactly what you are saying.\ It seems there are 2 problems; a) we don't know exactly how the system

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Daniel Rocha
What fluid would you suggest?

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Peter Gluck
The best heat transfer liquid is water, any organic heat transfer liquid (Defkalion speak about glycol but this has to be a glycol of higher moleculr weight) is dangerous- comustible toxic and is degrading and fouling the very hot surfaces as in this case.I have worked long years with Diphyl, not

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: What fluid would you suggest? Jones suggests therminol which is used in solar power applications; but, as Peter points out about glycol, there are also disadvantages. The system would have to be securely closed. T

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Harry Veeder
a mixture of ground coffee and water should do the trick. ;-)   Harry - Original Message - From: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Cc: Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 5:10:35 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Rich Murray
Joshua Cude, Are you conceding that the Rossi device produces some anomalous excess heat -- in a fully reproducible setup, capable of explosions, that would imply important, accessible new physics...

Re: [Vo]:[Video] Andrea Rossi Crunches the Numbers for His Energy Catalyzer (June 14th)

2011-06-24 Thread Joshua Cude
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: Joshua Cude, Are you conceding that the Rossi device produces some anomalous excess heat -- in a fully reproducible setup, capable of explosions, that would imply important, accessible new physics... I make no definite