Re: [Vo]: Re: PQP2 was: Di-Ozone
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Mon, 19 Mar 2007 19:41:45 -0700: Hi, [snip] Robin More than evidence on paper, Mills has bottles of the stuff (literally). See http://www.blacklightpower.com/images/Chemicals.jpg ... old news, and largely meaningless for this discussion. Yes, it is old news, but hardly meaningless. What is in those vials, no one but Mills has a clue; and he is likely just guessing or he would publish more detail. So far, everything which Mills is even remotely sure of, gets published. Over and over, actually. He sent that material out many years ago for analysis (7-8 yrs.?) and the fact that no independent lab wants to stick their neck out on significant details (other than to say it is odd) should tell you something. The fact that the independent labs all ducked for cover tells me that he is probably right. Agreed - there are very likely to be hydrino compounds in there, compounded with alkali metals, which is the limit of what Mills is claiming anyway. I can pretty much guarantee one thing. There is near ZERO residual negative charge on any vial, as there would have to be if there were really such an entity as Hy- in existence: that being the stable, uncompounded but charged hydride, which had been captured as a pure species. That's also the definition of a chloride, an iodide, or for that matter any other anion. Hy- is no different in that regard, and equally unlikely to result in an overall negative charge on an object. IOW the negative charge of the Hydrinohydride is balanced by the positive charge on the cations, as in any normal salt. (Which BTW is why the contents of the bottles look like salts). There could be some slight static charge, as is seen with an electret, but even picograms of a charged stable hydride could not be contained. Needless to say, even for those who accept his experimental evidence, there is a totally different focus when one is looking of a natural solar-derived hydrogen species, which CANNOT be negatively charged, really Why not, the entire solar wind comprises charged particles in an overall largely neutral plasma? -- compared to the situation of an alkali hydride in which the hydrogen is substituted. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation, Cooperation (communism) provides the means.
Re: [Vo]: Re: PQP2 was: Di-Ozone
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Sun, 18 Mar 2007 15:37:50 -0700 (PDT): Hi Jones, [snip] Robin Prediction: intrinsic angular momentum is itself related to charge somehow, and also to the LST quasi-particle, and all will be resolved once these three issues are integrated [the three are intrinsic angular momentum, charge, and the quasi-particle and the resolution will explain an apparently chargeless component of the solar wind which has mass near 1GeV, and looks more like a stable neutron than anything else. That particle is the solar-derived non-Millsian hydrino-hydride. RvS: Hydrino-hydride carries a negative charge. Hello. Did you get caught in the Oz vortex? or was the wording not sufficiently lucid (the likely problem) g This particle - the solar-derived non-Millsian hydrino-hydride is neutral. I have no objection to you inventing new particles, but please don't reuse names that others have already given to something else, it leads to confusion. ;) The particle in question (revised particle from Mills' erroneous assumption) is the PQP2 (proton-quasi-particle sub2) which is a solar-derived non-Millsian hydrino-hydride in this hypothesis. It is hypothetical, like the (erroneous) Hydrino hydride, and consists of a proton strongly bound to two quasi-particle-electrons, of the L.S.T. variety, and has zero overall charge, since the fractional negative (expressed) charges of the two QPs are balanced by the proton's positive. That is what makes it a non-Millsian hydrino-hydride. It is neutral. What I am saying (hypothesizing), in effect, is that Mills got it wrong - at least insofar as the solar (natural) variety of this species is concerned. Perhaps he knows of an earthly manifestation which is charged negatively, but there is no evidence of that in any published experiment AFIK. More than evidence on paper, Mills has bottles of the stuff (literally). See http://www.blacklightpower.com/images/Chemicals.jpg Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition (capitalism) provides the motivation, Cooperation (communism) provides the means.
[Vo]: Re: PQP2 was: Di-Ozone
Robin More than evidence on paper, Mills has bottles of the stuff (literally). See http://www.blacklightpower.com/images/Chemicals.jpg ... old news, and largely meaningless for this discussion. What is in those vials, no one but Mills has a clue; and he is likely just guessing or he would publish more detail. So far, everything which Mills is even remotely sure of, gets published. Over and over, actually. He sent that material out many years ago for analysis (7-8 yrs.?) and the fact that no independent lab wants to stick their neck out on significant details (other than to say it is odd) should tell you something. Agreed - there are very likely to be hydrino compounds in there, compounded with alkali metals, which is the limit of what Mills is claiming anyway. I can pretty much guarantee one thing. There is near ZERO residual negative charge on any vial, as there would have to be if there were really such an entity as Hy- in existence: that being the stable, uncompounded but charged hydride, which had been captured as a pure species. There could be some slight static charge, as is seen with an electret, but even picograms of a charged stable hydride could not be contained. Needless to say, even for those who accept his experimental evidence, there is a totally different focus when one is looking of a natural solar-derived hydrogen species, which CANNOT be negatively charged, really -- compared to the situation of an alkali hydride in which the hydrogen is substituted.
[Vo]: Re: PQP2 was: Di-Ozone
Robin Prediction: intrinsic angular momentum is itself related to charge somehow, and also to the LST quasi-particle, and all will be resolved once these three issues are integrated [the three are intrinsic angular momentum, charge, and the quasi-particle and the resolution will explain an apparently chargeless component of the solar wind which has mass near 1GeV, and looks more like a stable neutron than anything else. That particle is the solar-derived non-Millsian hydrino-hydride. RvS: Hydrino-hydride carries a negative charge. Hello. Did you get caught in the Oz vortex? or was the wording not sufficiently lucid (the likely problem) g This particle - the solar-derived non-Millsian hydrino-hydride is neutral. The particle in question (revised particle from Mills' erroneous assumption) is the PQP2 (proton-quasi-particle sub2) which is a solar-derived non-Millsian hydrino-hydride in this hypothesis. It is hypothetical, like the (erroneous) Hydrino hydride, and consists of a proton strongly bound to two quasi-particle-electrons, of the L.S.T. variety, and has zero overall charge, since the fractional negative (expressed) charges of the two QPs are balanced by the proton's positive. That is what makes it a non-Millsian hydrino-hydride. It is neutral. What I am saying (hypothesizing), in effect, is that Mills got it wrong - at least insofar as the solar (natural) variety of this species is concerned. Perhaps he knows of an earthly manifestation which is charged negatively, but there is no evidence of that in any published experiment AFIK. For the moment, at least, this lack of evidence for a charged variety allows me to affirm with some smugness, that he got it wrong. J.
Re: [Vo]: Re: PQP2 was: Di-Ozone
On 3/18/07, Jones Beene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the moment, at least, this lack of evidence for a charged variety allows me to affirm with some smugness, that he got it wrong. smugness noun an excessive feeling of self-satisfaction Winter is almost over. It's time to get out more. T
