Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24
Thanks old Beene. I haven't read that one. Notice Chevron is also an investor and Norman is their 5th generation reactor vessel. Cheers! On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 7:14 PM Jones Beene wrote: > Terry > > Here is a little better coverage > > > https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/30/photos-inside-tae-technologies-lab-and-nuclear-fusion-machine.html > > Were it not for Google being involved, however, it would probably be yet > another "meh" hot fusion effort - perpetually thirty years away... BUT > hydrogen-boron does avoid Krivit's main observation that anything requiring > tritium to operate is dead in the water. > > Too bad that Norront Fusion went under. > > They seemed to have a solution that avoided most of the problems. > > Hey - maybe Norman can add muon assist. and get rid of some of that weird > hardware > ??? > > > > Terry Blanton wrote: > > > More on the Google-funded TAE fusion success: > > > https://www.newsweek.com/nuclear-fusion-google-reactor-norman-tae-technologies-1726342 > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 3:57 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > > Meanwhile, there's TAE's Norman > > > https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/TAE-Technologies-secures-funds-to-build-next-fusio > >
Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24
Terry Here is a little better coverage https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/30/photos-inside-tae-technologies-lab-and-nuclear-fusion-machine.html Were it not for Google being involved, however, it would probably be yet another "meh" hot fusion effort - perpetually thirty years away... BUT hydrogen-boron does avoid Krivit's main observation that anything requiring tritium to operate is dead in the water. Too bad that Norront Fusion went under. They seemed to have a solution that avoided most of the problems. Hey - maybe Norman can add muon assist. and get rid of some of that weird hardware ??? Terry Blanton wrote: More on the Google-funded TAE fusion success: https://www.newsweek.com/nuclear-fusion-google-reactor-norman-tae-technologies-1726342 On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 3:57 PM Terry Blanton wrote: Meanwhile, there's TAE's Norman https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/TAE-Technologies-secures-funds-to-build-next-fusio
Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24
More on the Google-funded TAE fusion success: https://www.newsweek.com/nuclear-fusion-google-reactor-norman-tae-technologies-1726342 On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 3:57 PM Terry Blanton wrote: > Meanwhile, there's TAE's Norman > > > https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/TAE-Technologies-secures-funds-to-build-next-fusio >
Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 22 Jul 2022 16:11:24 -0400: Hi, [snip] >Some people call the gain the "COP," but I think that is technically >inaccurate. That means "coefficient of production." As far as I know it >only applies to heat pumps. They do not create any energy, as I am sure >everyone here understands. However the COP of a heat pump sometimes/often exceeds 2.7, so it's debatable how useful this device will be by comparison. If no one clicked on ads companies would stop paying for them. :)
Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24
8:54 AM Jones Beene wrote: > For many years they have claimed modest COP but nothing commercializable > > Can they now demonstrate net real gain? > Any gain is real, even 0.1%. Perhaps you mean "significant gain" or "gain enough for practical or economic use." I think Steve Krivit and some others say that a gain has to be 1 or above or it does not count. Unless you get out 2 W for every 1 W of input, it isn't a "gain" by their standards. Some people call the gain the "COP," but I think that is technically inaccurate. That means "coefficient of production." As far as I know it only applies to heat pumps. They do not create any energy, as I am sure everyone here understands.
Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24
Meanwhile, there's TAE's Norman https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/TAE-Technologies-secures-funds-to-build-next-fusio
Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24
I think they are now claiming an electrical -thermal COP of 2.7. On Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 6:54 AM Jones Beene wrote: > Can anyone comment on the reality of the Brillouin "breakthrough" claim ? > > For many years they have claimed modest COP but nothing commercializable > > Can they now demonstrate net real gain? > > > > Jed Rothwell wrote: > > QUOTE: > > Brillouin Energy Corp Demonstrates CleanTech Licensable Solid State Fusion > Boiler System at the 24th Annual International Conference on Cold Fusion ( > www.iccf24.org) July 25th – 28th at the Computer History Museum in > Mountain View, California > > Breakthrough boiler system uses hydrogen to produce low-cost heat with no > combustion or pollution, paving the way to a clean energy future > > > https://brillouinenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Brillouin-Press-Release-ICCF24-7-20-22-Final.pdf > >
Re: [Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24
Can anyone comment on the reality of the Brillouin "breakthrough" claim ? For many years they have claimed modest COP but nothing commercializable Can they now demonstrate net real gain? Jed Rothwell wrote: QUOTE: Brillouin Energy Corp Demonstrates CleanTech Licensable Solid State Fusion Boiler System at the 24th Annual International Conference on Cold Fusion (www.iccf24.org) July 25th – 28th at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California Breakthrough boiler system uses hydrogen to produce low-cost heat with no combustion or pollution, paving the way to a clean energy future https://brillouinenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Brillouin-Press-Release-ICCF24-7-20-22-Final.pdf
[Vo]:Brillouin Energy Corp demonstration at ICCF-24
QUOTE: Brillouin Energy Corp Demonstrates CleanTech Licensable Solid State Fusion Boiler System at the 24th Annual International Conference on Cold Fusion ( www.iccf24.org) July 25th – 28th at the Computer History Museum in Mountain View, California Breakthrough boiler system uses hydrogen to produce low-cost heat with no combustion or pollution, paving the way to a clean energy future https://brillouinenergy.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/Brillouin-Press-Release-ICCF24-7-20-22-Final.pdf