Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial 2

2013-05-11 Thread Joshua Cude
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 1:24 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Cude wrote: That's nonsense. It's the believers who are forever using tritium and neutrons at ridiculously low levels to prove PF were right. [...] No one says that tritium proves that PF's claims of excess heat is

[Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial 2

2013-05-10 Thread Joshua Cude
Walker wrote: Yes, definitely -- conflation is a critical mistake, but it is most likely to occur when it is convenient for one's position. Throw perpetual motion machines, homeopathy, polywater and cold fusion all into the same category. It does not matter that there appear to be basic

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial 2

2013-05-10 Thread Joshua Cude
Rothwell wrote: Cude and others conflate many different assertions and issues. They stir everything into one pot. You have to learn to compartmentalize with cold fusion, or with any new phenomenon or poorly understood subject. That's nonsense. It's the believers who are forever using tritium

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial 2

2013-05-10 Thread ken deboer
Sidenote: I'm reminded of one of the great one-liners (and I believe it was uttered by someone on this list if I;m not mistaken: The difference between connecting the dots and conflation is spin On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: Rothwell wrote: Cude

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial 2

2013-05-10 Thread Jed Rothwell
Cude wrote: That's nonsense. It's the believers who are forever using tritium and neutrons at ridiculously low levels to prove PF were right. You just conflated two unrelated things! No one says that tritium proves that PF's claims of excess heat is correct. Tritium cannot prove that

Re: [Vo]:Hagelstein's editorial 2

2013-05-10 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 6:19 AM, Joshua Cude joshua.c...@gmail.com wrote: There are differences of course. Identical analogies serve no purpose. I think they're the most powerful. :) I assume we all agree that homeopathy and polywater and perpetual motion are bogus. And so when someone