Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-19 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net An: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 19.10.2011 03:50 Betreff: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors? I believe it has been conjectured

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-19 Thread Peter Gluck
, 2011 at 10:32 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: - Original Nachricht Von: OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net An: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 19.10.2011 03:50 Betreff: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-19 Thread Terry Blanton
On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder that no one has organized bets re its success/failure Good point. I weighed in at 800 kW and Jones says 250. I suppose we need to set an average or peak claim on these numbers. I was thinking in terms of a

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-19 Thread Peter Gluck
However at this size, duration, continuity are essential, the demo is organized Friday and perhaps all the special people present want to enjoy the weekend so the demo will be stopped Friday night. (i.e. aborted) A minimal techno-decency means that this demo if it works, should continue for a few

Re: Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-19 Thread peter . heckert
- Original Nachricht Von: Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Datum: 19.10.2011 14:40 Betreff: Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors? On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-19 Thread Horace Heffner
On Oct 19, 2011, at 5:39 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: [snip] Somebody has calculated, at 1MW the steam must go supersonic with this output tube. Then, with 100 kW it must still go some 100 km/h. [snip] I got 803 km/hr, which is less than the speed of sound. You may want to check

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-19 Thread Craig Haynie
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 23:01 -0400, Jed Rothwell wrote: David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I asked Mr. Rossi whether or not he has tested several ECATS together in a moderate sized configuration to determine how well they function as a team. He responded yes to

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-19 Thread Peter Heckert
Am 19.10.2011 16:19, schrieb Horace Heffner: On Oct 19, 2011, at 5:39 AM, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: [snip] Somebody has calculated, at 1MW the steam must go supersonic with this output tube. Then, with 100 kW it must still go some 100 km/h. [snip] I got 803 km/hr, which is less than

[Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
I believe it has been conjectured that Rossi has not yet operated his 1 MW demo prototype at 100% capacity. That's what I have assumed is the case based on what others have said... or is that what Rossi has stated for the record? I'm not sure on this point. Someone please correct me if I am in

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: I certainly hope Rossi has already rehearsed the whole demo at 100% capacity. Take it from an engineer. He tested it as soon as it was assembled. He might not have run it at capacity; but, it's

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: I believe it has been conjectured that Rossi has not yet operated his 1 MW demo prototype at 100% capacity. That's what I have assumed is the case based on what others have said... or is that what Rossi has stated for the

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Correction, obviously: I told him he should NOT make me the scapegoat for his mistakes. You can see why he is presently upset with me. Unfortunately, making him upset does not sway him or cause him to reconsider. His life history is full of disastrous mistakes that he made after his friends

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread Terry Blanton
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:11 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 9:50 PM, OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson orionwo...@charter.net wrote: I certainly hope Rossi has already rehearsed the whole demo at 100% capacity. Take it from an engineer.  He tested it

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote: Take it from an engineer. He tested it as soon as it was assembled. It was not even fully assembled on Oct. 6, as far as I know. He might not have run it at capacity; but, it's been tested. I hope you are right, but that is not what he said.

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread David Roberson
I asked Mr. Rossi whether or not he has tested several ECATS together in a moderate sized configuration to determine how well they function as a team. He responded yes to my query. He further stated that he plans to activate them in groups of 6 as he powers up the entire system. Also, there

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread ecat builder
I agree with Terry. Rossi is not a build it and take pictures kind of guy. He is surely testing multiple units at once. You don't build an array of something that complex unless you're pretty sure about the individual units. And as soon as practical, you start running multiple units at once...

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote: I asked Mr. Rossi whether or not he has tested several ECATS together in a moderate sized configuration to determine how well they function as a team. He responded yes to my query. He further stated that he plans to activate them in groups of 6 as he

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread Jed Rothwell
ecat builder ecatbuil...@gmail.com wrote: Rossi has a team of people working on this project--nobody seems to know how many people . . . Five, I believe. - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread fznidarsic
When the E-Cat is turned off, there is still a hot iron core at 600 - 1000C, depending on who you listen to. It has lead shielding. If there are adjacent cats, they will also heat up, storing additional heat. Depending on the description, this may or may not be in the bottom; it may or may not

Re: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
On 11-10-18 10:13 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Again, I told him that. He response was to accuse me of sabotaging his work, and to blame me for his decision to make the Oct. 28 test private. So this test is to be private? What does that mean, really? Does it mean we'll have to take the word

RE: [Vo]:Is it possible Rossi has already tested his 1 MW prototype behind closed doors?

2011-10-18 Thread Jones Beene
Well - everyone who has followed this story for the last year (or twenty years for some of us) should perhaps go on record in the next few days with their well-considered predictions, as Terry has ventured. And not just a prediction but a rationale for the justifying their slant on the outcome of