Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote: sounds like the Les Case system I have now. Tube in a tube. I think it is just a sensor mounted on the outside of a copper tube. The oil flows through the tube. Not having a T will reduce the likelihood of a leak. McKubre and I have some concerns

Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread Axil Axil
Comparisons of systems are valuable in understanding what the LENR reaction is doing. As a general principle, phonon driven dipole oscillations of electrons and associated ions (Holes) are the power plant that drives the LENR process. Heat pumps energy into these dipoles so that they vibrate

RE: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread DJ Cravens
, 27 Jul 2013 12:09:08 -0400 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved From: janap...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Comparisons of systems are valuable in understanding what the LENR reaction is doing. As a general principle, phonon driven dipole oscillations of electrons and associated ions

Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:38:07 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved Perhaps someone here would like to figure how long I would need to run a sealed brass sphere to rule out chemistry from 4 g of active material or even 200 grams total

RE: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread DJ Cravens
]:Kitamura much improved From: DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 9:38:07 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved Perhaps someone here would like to figure how long I would need to run a sealed brass sphere to rule out chemistry from 4 g of active

Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:10:03 PM Alen, where can I find your fakes calculator. What have you got as the high for chemistry for a sealed unit (i.e. no O2 access)? with Li batteries, I think you can get up to 4MJ/L (but I don't know how anyone

RE: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread DJ Cravens
in some computer display alone. Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 12:24:14 -0700 From: a...@well.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved From: DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:10:03 PM Alen, where can I find your fakes calculator. What

Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread Jed Rothwell
DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote: Perhaps someone here would like to figure how long I would need to run a *sealed *brass sphere to rule out chemistry from 4 g of active material or even 200 grams total material. Simplify! Just use the energy density of gasoline, 42 MJ/kg. No

Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:43:44 PM thanks, I know I had seen something like that around here. It's almost set up .. (if not very useful) I just need to plug in the values. Input power : 0 Output power : 1W Inner (active material volume) : 450 ml

RE: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread DJ Cravens
2013 15:23:00 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com wrote: Perhaps someone here would like to figure how long I would need to run a sealed brass sphere to rule out chemistry from 4 g of active material

RE: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread DJ Cravens
that was in use. D2 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 14:34:26 -0700 From: a...@well.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved From: DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:43:44 PM thanks, I know I had seen something like that around

Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved -- fakes

2013-07-27 Thread Alan Fletcher
From: DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 2:50:09 PM Thanks, but based on volume alone, it is clear that 5 days is not enough for a rock solid demo. For what it's worth : http://lenr.qumbu.com/rossi_ecat_proof_v430.php#fakesbyvolume For the INNER -- the most

RE: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-27 Thread DJ Cravens
]:Kitamura much improved From: DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 12:43:44 PM thanks, I know I had seen something like that around here. It's almost set up .. (if not very useful) I just need to plug in the values. Input power : 0 Output power : 1W Inner

RE: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved -- fakes

2013-07-27 Thread DJ Cravens
direct approach for this expo is just to cut it open on the last day. D2 Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 15:24:54 -0700 From: a...@well.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved -- fakes From: DJ Cravens djcrav...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2013 2:50:09

RE: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-26 Thread DJ Cravens
from an metal organic) It looks like he was running at around 200-300 C) D2 Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2013 21:57:16 -0500 From: jedrothw...@gmail.com To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved Kitamura et al. have been working on gas loaded Pd and Ni for some time, originally

Re: [Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-26 Thread blaze spinnaker
I read 195 watts input, up to 20 watts excess. Is that correct? That's a little weak and seems subject to measurement error. On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 7:57 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Kitamura et al. have been working on gas loaded Pd and Ni for some time, originally in a

[Vo]:Kitamura much improved

2013-07-25 Thread Jed Rothwell
Kitamura et al. have been working on gas loaded Pd and Ni for some time, originally in a replication of Arata's Zr+Pd alloy. Kitamura's experiment looks much better to me than it did last year. They finally made a precision flowmeter. It holds a much larger sample of powder. It is about time they