[Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Peter Heckert
LENR - Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, is this possible? If we see physics as a statistical phenomenom, then energy is another word for probability. So, Low Energy reactions are low probability reactions - reactions that dont happen frequently ;-) It is therefore improbable to get energy out of

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2011-12-16 14:49, Peter Heckert wrote: LENR - Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, is this possible? What about LENR - Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions? Personally I Like it more than Low Energy. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Michele Comitini
I have noticed that McKubre often uses LANR: Lattice Assisted Nuclear Reactions. mic 2011/12/16 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com: On 2011-12-16 14:49, Peter Heckert wrote: LENR - Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, is this possible? What about LENR - Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions?

RE: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Jones Beene
Changing the acronym LENR to 'Lattice Enabled' is an improvement over 'Low Energy'- but CANR can also be altered be more relevant to the mechanics of Ni-H reactions, as best we can understand them: CANR = Casimir (or cavity) Assisted Nucleon Reactions. First, the common thread between deuterium

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Arent there better words? I have addressed this question here before, from the point of view of linguistics. It does not matter what you call something. People will know what you mean. See Wittgenstein's discussion of meaning: Don’t ask for the

RE: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Robert Leguillon
My children can buy a new MP3 album from iTunes. If they missed something on TV, they can pause the DVR and rewind. The words may eventually be elimanated, but the next generation is adopting them without care of origin. Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:43:05 -0500 Subject: Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Jed: ... Terminology is often inaccurate and usually a generation behind. We often pick a word for something new that describes the older object better than the new one. Because there isn't a word for the new thing. ... This is why many (myself included) have felt that recent attempts,

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Robert: The words may eventually be elimanated, but the next generation is adopting them without care of origin. But our generation is just as guilty of committing the same type of crimes. Regards Steven Vincent Johnson www.OrionWorks.com www.zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
I regard efforts to change the name cold fusion as attempts to create a euphemism. Euphemisms never work. Whatever bothers people about the old word soon attaches to the new word, so you end up generating word after word. For example: toilet, bathroom, men's room, restroom, etc. Here is what I

RE: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Robert Leguillon
Euphemisms never work. Whatever bothers people about the old word soon attaches to the new word, so you end up generating word after word. For example: toilet, bathroom, men's room, restroom, etc. There is a huge industry of focus-group research that would vehemently disagree. Changing

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: Global warming to climate change? I believe that was a technical adjustment to make the term more accurate. Not a euphemism. CO2 causes both warming and cooling, and also droughts and other effects. It is not limited to warming. This

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
From Robert: There is a huge industry of focus-group research that would vehemently disagree.  Changing terminologies can entirely restructure a debate, and affect changes in perception: Global warming to climate change? Pro-choice to women's health? Gay marriage to marriage equality? In

RE: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Robert Leguillon
He who controls the language controls the argument. The examples I'd provided were all to demonstrate the utility of changing the terminology. You will not immediately remove stigma, but can restructure the entire nature of the dispute. The change in name can have the largest effect on those

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com wrote: In all three examples you cite I personally find it interesting that the politically correct replacement phrase being championed strikes me as being far less descriptive than the original phrase. I disagree about climate change.

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Leguillon robert.leguil...@hotmail.com wrote: He who controls the language controls the argument. No one controls language. The French Academy wishes it did, but it does not. This is one of the fundamentals of linguistics. The examples I'd provided were all to demonstrate the utility

Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.

2011-12-16 Thread OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson
Robert sez: He who controls the language controls the argument. The examples I'd provided were all to demonstrate the utility of changing the terminology. You will not immediately remove stigma, but can restructure the entire nature of the dispute. The change in name can have the largest