[Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown
Clearly not impressed. Annotated paper at : http://shutdownrossi.com/e-cat-science/thoughts-on-the-latest-andrea-rossi-giuseppe-levi-and-hanno-essen-paper/ I've only skimmed it. Jed is mentioned.
RE: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown
Someone actually paid for the url shutdownrossi.com ? Altruistic rarely extends to paid attacks... I would ignore any information on a site with this sort of url. Fran -Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:38 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown Clearly not impressed. Annotated paper at : http://shutdownrossi.com/e-cat-science/thoughts-on-the-latest-andrea-rossi-giuseppe-levi-and-hanno-essen-paper/ I've only skimmed it. Jed is mentioned.
Re: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown+motl
Clearly not impressed. Annotated paper at : http://shutdownrossi.com/e-cat-science/thoughts-on-the-latest-andrea-rossi-giuseppe-levi-and-hanno-essen-paper/ I've only skimmed it. Jed is mentioned. Also, MOTL (#81) shows up at science blogs I was very tempted to critique his comments .. http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/05/21/the-e-cat-is-back-and-people-are-still-falling-for-it/ ps http://phys.org/news/2013-05-rossi-e-cat-energy-density-higher.html Nice diagram! (Gee .. they cropped some stuff off it)
Re: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown
Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Clearly not impressed. Annotated paper at : http://shutdownrossi.com/e-cat-science/thoughts-on-the-latest-andrea-rossi-giuseppe-levi-and-hanno-essen-paper/ This paper or the whole website appears to be down. No great loss. Someone familiar with Facebook should think about gathering stats on these articles, to find out which is popular. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown+motl
Alan Fletcher wrote: ps http://phys.org/news/2013-05-rossi-e-cat-energy-density-higher.html Nice diagram! (Gee .. they cropped some stuff off it) They darn well should have acknowledged you. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown
Gary Wright, Rossi's Florida factory claim nemesis On 23 May 2013 18:56, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com wrote: Someone actually paid for the url shutdownrossi.com ? Altruistic rarely extends to paid attacks... I would ignore any information on a site with this sort of url. Fran -Original Message- From: Alan Fletcher [mailto:a...@well.com] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2013 12:38 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown Clearly not impressed. Annotated paper at : http://shutdownrossi.com/e-cat-science/thoughts-on-the-latest-andrea-rossi-giuseppe-levi-and-hanno-essen-paper/ I've only skimmed it. Jed is mentioned.
Re: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown+motl
Regarding Ethan #84 There is cutting insight to be drawn from the reactions of the professional science cast as they post about the Rossi test. I am a stiffed necked sort who rejects arbitrary discipline. This reaction has kindled in me a resentment of a kind of authority that spreads the scent of charred flesh wide across the land. It seems to me, the professional scientists act like high priests of some perverse science based religion. They must fiercely protect their doctrinaire from a growing heresy, a pestilence of the mind, a plague of skeptics that are marching fast to oppose their holy interests. How could a mere tinkerer teach them about what they have studied for so long? Ethan, their high arch bishop states: “There are some people who buy into the “science doesn’t know everything” angle, and think that a tinkerer will show us the way forward. Maybe this is it, they say, dismissing what would be scientific tests.” This experiment is a threat to the faith of their followers. What they fear the most is that they will lose the dossal faith and sycophant adoration of the faithful of science. The high arch bishop states again: “There are others who loved this on hearing it the first time, and that’s their position on it: they love it, period. No evidence — not even outright evidence of fraud — will change their minds.” This blessed ministry fears that they have lost the power of their sanctified authority. Doctrine is being ignored. How will their students accept what they say in class tomorrow? Blood must be let. Bodies must be burnt at the stake of ideological purity. A clarion call has issued forth far and wide for a holy crusade of the faithful to cleanse the land of heresy and disbelief. From the arch bishop again as he speaks ex cathedra from his pulpit: “For my own perspective, I think we have a responsibility as scientists to tell the public what the science is, what good science is, and whether this is good science or not. (It’s not.) And then, to tell them what good science would look like, and demand it. Otherwise, it’s not worth listening to.” These special men, these chosen few have a sacred obligation to preserve, protect, and defend the hallowed bastions of their certain truths that this chosen priesthood has so carefully crafted over long dark centuries of supreme effort and toil. Their truth can bear no affront; their certainty can stand no injury from an ignorant rabble as these ill-informed miscreants chafe under the oppressive weight of their priestly yoke. Ethan laments in the end: “I don’t know whether people need Gods or heroes; some do, others don’t. But we all need the truth.” Yes, the divine truth that only Ethan can really know. On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: Alan Fletcher wrote: ps http://phys.org/news/2013-05-**rossi-e-cat-energy-density-** higher.htmlhttp://phys.org/news/2013-05-rossi-e-cat-energy-density-higher.html Nice diagram! (Gee .. they cropped some stuff off it) They darn well should have acknowledged you. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown
The site isn't loading. On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Alan Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: Clearly not impressed. Annotated paper at : http://shutdownrossi.com/e-cat-science/thoughts-on-the-latest-andrea-rossi-giuseppe-levi-and-hanno-essen-paper/ I've only skimmed it. Jed is mentioned.
Re: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown+motl
Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Regarding Ethan #84 Axil^2 refers to a letter, here: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/05/21/the-e-cat-is-back-and-people-are-still-falling-for-it/ There is cutting insight to be drawn from the reactions of the professional science cast . . . You mean caste. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:Levi hotcat paper --- shutrossidown
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote: The site isn't loading. It is now back on line. My goodness! The author, Gary Wright, is an extremist. Regarding me, Wright says: Are they [Levi et al.] expecting everyone to blindly believe everything Rossi has said or done in the past as Jed Rothwell is desperately trying to get people to do? After all the nasty things I have said about Rossi it is a little surprising Wright thinks I am blindly supportive. If Rossi turns out to be completely right, I hope that he too will overlook my snide remarks. It is odd that Wright attacks Levi et al. for making equivocal, guarded statements: This abstract was written after the tests, why does it say 'possible anomalous heat production'? Doesn’t that conflict with their conclusions? Yet elsewhere he attacks them -- and me -- claiming we are unequivocal. Which is it? Are we too hesitant, or too certain? Logic is not his strong suit. - Jed
