Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[Jones Beene]

I ordered one to test. Hey, it makes as much sense as did SMOT. 

The company does seem to have some cred .. but the website is nothing which 
could not have been faked. Do not order anything like this unless you have 
PayPal.

The best advertising is to get a few thousand out there for testing and it is 
unlikely that a scam will last very long - given they are sending you the 
supposed proof for a price which is not unreasonable.
 


 On Monday, August 31, 2015 8:22 PM, Eric Walker  
wrote:
   
 

 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson 
 wrote:


Who within the Vort Collective would like to volunteer to keep a casual watch 
on this development?

If the invention is quirky, the claims outlandish and the inventor a little 
colorful, I'm sure the development will be followed here with great pleasure.

Eric


 
   

RE: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[Jones Beene]

From: ChemE Stewart 

Similar Item:

 

Ø  
http://phys.org/news/2013-02-german-student-electromagnetic-harvester-recharge.html

 

Yes – thanks for remembering this, Stewart, It appears that this effort will at 
least provide us with a baseline for determining how much benefit there is in 
capturing EM “smog” by various means. 

 

A long life AA battery has about 2.6 watt-hours (9300 joules) of useful energy, 
and a rechargeable AA about half of that. The German “harvester” requires 24 
hour to recharge - and thus it can capture about one tenth a watt-hour per hour 
of recharge time. 

 

The ADGEX, if we can believe their spiel, is capturing another form of energy 
instead of background EM/RF smog, which allows it to put out 120 lumen or light 
emission for 12 hours, with a 2 hour recharge. The time of the recharge is 
stated in one place as 2 hours but longer in another reference, so this detail 
needs to be firmed up.

 

120 lumens is equivalent to 2 watts - in a better LED lamp array. Thus the 
ADGEX will go thru 24 watt-hours in a single recharge, which is then 
rejuvenated at a rate of 12 watt-hours per hour, Therefore, this is about 120 
times more energy capture than what is available from EM/RF smog. 

 

That is very significant – if we can believe it. 

 

Since the early product is for sale – then the best way to verify the claim 
seems to be to buy one and test it. If the flashlight works reliably, there is 
no reason (in principle) with mass production that 10,000 of them could not 
power an automobile and recharge overnight

 

Jones

 

Side note: As to what the circuitry consists of – it appears the batteries 
contain nickel. Notably, in many types of batteries, hydrogen is the charge 
carrier and nickel is found in one or both of the electrodes. The dense form of 
hydrogen known as IRH (inverted Rydberg hydrogen) would be an ideal charge 
carrier, especially in the form that Mills calls “hydrino-hydride” but BLP 
apparently could not bring this to market. Have the Russians done it for him?

 

Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[ChemE Stewart]

Another similar bracelet

http://www.iewei.net/en/#HOME

On Monday, August 31, 2015, Jones Beene  wrote:

> *From:* ChemE Stewart
>
> Similar Item:
>
>
>
> Ø
> http://phys.org/news/2013-02-german-student-electromagnetic-harvester-recharge.html
>
>
>
> Yes – thanks for remembering this, Stewart, It appears that this effort
> will at least provide us with a baseline for determining how much benefit
> there is in capturing EM “smog” by various means.
>
>
>
> A long life AA battery has about 2.6 watt-hours (9300 joules) of useful
> energy, and a rechargeable AA about half of that. The German “harvester”
> requires 24 hour to recharge - and thus it can capture about one tenth a
> watt-hour per hour of recharge time.
>
>
>
> The ADGEX, if we can believe their spiel, is capturing another form of
> energy instead of background EM/RF smog, which allows it to put out 120
> lumen or light emission for 12 hours, with a 2 hour recharge. The time of
> the recharge is stated in one place as 2 hours but longer in another
> reference, so this detail needs to be firmed up.
>
>
>
> 120 lumens is equivalent to 2 watts - in a better LED lamp array. Thus the
> ADGEX will go thru 24 watt-hours in a single recharge, which is then
> rejuvenated at a rate of 12 watt-hours per hour, Therefore, this is about
> 120 times more energy capture than what is available from EM/RF smog.
>
>
>
> That is very significant – if we can believe it.
>
>
>
> Since the early product is for sale – then the best way to verify the
> claim seems to be to buy one and test it. If the flashlight works reliably,
> there is no reason (in principle) with mass production that 10,000 of them
> could not power an automobile and recharge overnight
>
>
>
> Jones
>
>
>
> Side note: As to what the circuitry consists of – it appears the batteries
> contain nickel. Notably, in many types of batteries, hydrogen is the charge
> carrier and nickel is found in one or both of the electrodes. The dense
> form of hydrogen known as IRH (inverted Rydberg hydrogen) would be an ideal
> charge carrier, especially in the form that Mills calls “hydrino-hydride”
> but BLP apparently could not bring this to market. Have the Russians done
> it for him?
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[Ron Kita]

I thought that I was getting power from a conductive  Neo Magnet...then I
turned off the flourescent light above meProof- No
Voltage reading.
Ron Kita, Chiralex

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Alain Sepeda 
wrote:

> I've worked on EMI detection in paris.
>
> first source of Em is 50Hz from house wiring (HV lines are negligible few
> meters away) because you are inside the loop, or at least nearby.
>
> second source is FM radio (very clear in paris, they saturated a 1M$
> receptor who was fooled a funny way).
>
> TV is big too, nearly same frequency as GSM.
>
> today your phone is noticeable too, much above GSM antennas.
>
> Wifi is absolutely negligible, as bluetooth.
>
> note that for the brain the biggest EM sources are ...
> neurons. when they fire the EM field is the biggest you can imagine inside
> a biological tissue. really a clinical risk !
> stop thinking please!
>
>
> 2015-08-30 23:41 GMT+02:00 :
>
>> In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:01:35 -0700:
>> Hi,
>> [snip]
>> >There is a recent announcement making the rounds this morning - for a
>> >self-charging battery which is apparently now in production in Australia,
>> >for use in a flashlight. Apparently, the inventor thinks he can capture
>> >Schumann resonance. It would be easy to write this off as fantasy .
>> except
>> >for the fact that it is (claimed to be) in actual production.
>> >
>> >Curiously it uses nickel ..
>> >
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VYC8K77MSc
>> >
>> >http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe#tabs-6
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.adgex.com/News/tabid/69/EntryId/2077/NICKEL-CADMIUM-ACCUMULATORS-
>> >OF-ADGEX-ENERGY.aspx
>> >
>> >Who needs a hot-cat if you can get unlimited free energy from a battery?
>>
>> I suspect that most of the power comes from the wiring in the home. It's
>> by far
>> the strongest form of EM radiation in a house. You only need to touch an
>> oscilloscope lead to see this.
>> IOW there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Robin van Spaandonk
>>
>> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>>
>>
>

Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[Alain Sepeda]

I've worked on EMI detection in paris.

first source of Em is 50Hz from house wiring (HV lines are negligible few
meters away) because you are inside the loop, or at least nearby.

second source is FM radio (very clear in paris, they saturated a 1M$
receptor who was fooled a funny way).

TV is big too, nearly same frequency as GSM.

today your phone is noticeable too, much above GSM antennas.

Wifi is absolutely negligible, as bluetooth.

note that for the brain the biggest EM sources are ...
neurons. when they fire the EM field is the biggest you can imagine inside
a biological tissue. really a clinical risk !
stop thinking please!


2015-08-30 23:41 GMT+02:00 :

> In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:01:35 -0700:
> Hi,
> [snip]
> >There is a recent announcement making the rounds this morning - for a
> >self-charging battery which is apparently now in production in Australia,
> >for use in a flashlight. Apparently, the inventor thinks he can capture
> >Schumann resonance. It would be easy to write this off as fantasy . except
> >for the fact that it is (claimed to be) in actual production.
> >
> >Curiously it uses nickel ..
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VYC8K77MSc
> >
> >http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe#tabs-6
> >
> >
> http://www.adgex.com/News/tabid/69/EntryId/2077/NICKEL-CADMIUM-ACCUMULATORS-
> >OF-ADGEX-ENERGY.aspx
> >
> >Who needs a hot-cat if you can get unlimited free energy from a battery?
>
> I suspect that most of the power comes from the wiring in the home. It's
> by far
> the strongest form of EM radiation in a house. You only need to touch an
> oscilloscope lead to see this.
> IOW there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
>
> Regards,
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[Eric Walker]

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 5:44 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <
orionwo...@charter.net> wrote:

Who within the Vort Collective would like to volunteer to keep a casual
> watch on this development?


If the invention is quirky, the claims outlandish and the inventor a little
colorful, I'm sure the development will be followed here with great
pleasure.

Eric

Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[David Roberson]

Does anyone have a diagram that shows the internal circuitry of this device?  
Why is it only expected to last for 5 years if the energy source is infinite?  
My suspicion is that it is battery backed up and the actual charging rate is 
extremely slow.

This appears to be more of a toy than a useful product to me.  At least with a 
regular flashlight you can change the batteries once the light becomes too dim 
without having to wait a long time for the light to become useful again.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Ron Kita <chiralex.k...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2015 5:39 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX


 
I thought that I was getting power from a conductive  Neo Magnet...then I 
turned off the flourescent light above meProof- No  
Voltage reading.  
  
Ron Kita, Chiralex  
 
 
  
  
On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Alain Sepeda<alain.sep...@gmail.com> 
wrote:   
   

I've worked on EMI detection in paris. 
  
 
 
first source of Em is 50Hz from house wiring (HV lines are negligible few 
meters away) because you are inside the loop, or at least nearby. 
 
  
 
 
second source is FM radio (very clear in paris, they saturated a 1M$ receptor 
who was fooled a funny way). 
 
  
 
 
TV is big too, nearly same frequency as GSM. 
 
  
 
 
today your phone is noticeable too, much above GSM antennas. 
 
  
 
 
Wifi is absolutely negligible, as bluetooth. 
 
  
 
 
note that for the brain the biggest EM sources are ... 
 
neurons. when they fire the EM field is the biggest you can imagine inside a 
biological tissue. really a clinical risk ! 
 
stop thinking please! 
 
  
 


 
  
   
   
2015-08-30 23:41 GMT+02:00 <mix...@bigpond.com>:

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:01:35 -0700: 
 Hi, 
 [snip] 
  >There is a recent announcement making the rounds this morning - for a
 >self-charging battery which is apparently now in production in Australia,
 >for use in a flashlight. Apparently, the inventor thinks he can capture
 >Schumann resonance. It would be easy to write this off as fantasy . except
 > 
  >for the fact that it is (claimed to be) in actual production.
 >
 >Curiously it uses nickel .. 
  >
 >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VYC8K77MSc
 >
 >http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe#tabs-6
 >
 >http://www.adgex.com/News/tabid/69/EntryId/2077/NICKEL-CADMIUM-ACCUMULATORS-
 >OF-ADGEX-ENERGY.aspx
 >
 >Who needs a hot-cat if you can get unlimited free energy from a battery?
 
 I suspect that most of the power comes from the wiring in the home. It's by 
far 
 the strongest form of EM radiation in a house. You only need to touch an   
  
 oscilloscope lead to see this. 
 IOW there ain't no such thing as a free lunch. 
  
 Regards, 
  
 Robin van Spaandonk 
  
  http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html 
  
 
   
   
  
  

   
  
  
 
 

Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[ChemE Stewart]

Similar Item:

http://phys.org/news/2013-02-german-student-electromagnetic-harvester-recharge.html

If we are going to irradiate ourselves we might as well generate power
while we are alive!

On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 10:14 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

> Does anyone have a diagram that shows the internal circuitry of this
> device?  Why is it only expected to last for 5 years if the energy source
> is infinite?  My suspicion is that it is battery backed up and the actual
> charging rate is extremely slow.
>
> This appears to be more of a toy than a useful product to me.  At least
> with a regular flashlight you can change the batteries once the light
> becomes too dim without having to wait a long time for the light to become
> useful again.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Kita <chiralex.k...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2015 5:39 am
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX
>
> I thought that I was getting power from a conductive  Neo Magnet...then I
> turned off the flourescent light above meProof- No
> Voltage reading.
> Ron Kita, Chiralex
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 4:08 AM, Alain Sepeda <alain.sep...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I've worked on EMI detection in paris.
>>
>> first source of Em is 50Hz from house wiring (HV lines are negligible few
>> meters away) because you are inside the loop, or at least nearby.
>>
>> second source is FM radio (very clear in paris, they saturated a 1M$
>> receptor who was fooled a funny way).
>>
>> TV is big too, nearly same frequency as GSM.
>>
>> today your phone is noticeable too, much above GSM antennas.
>>
>> Wifi is absolutely negligible, as bluetooth.
>>
>> note that for the brain the biggest EM sources are ...
>> neurons. when they fire the EM field is the biggest you can imagine
>> inside a biological tissue. really a clinical risk !
>> stop thinking please!
>>
>>
>> 2015-08-30 23:41 GMT+02:00 <mix...@bigpond.com>:
>>
>>> In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:01:35 -0700:
>>> Hi,
>>> [snip]
>>> >There is a recent announcement making the rounds this morning - for a
>>> >self-charging battery which is apparently now in production in
>>> Australia,
>>> >for use in a flashlight. Apparently, the inventor thinks he can capture
>>> >Schumann resonance. It would be easy to write this off as fantasy .
>>> except
>>> >for the fact that it is (claimed to be) in actual production.
>>> >
>>> >Curiously it uses nickel ..
>>> >
>>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VYC8K77MSc
>>> >
>>> >http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe#tabs-6
>>> >
>>> >
>>> http://www.adgex.com/News/tabid/69/EntryId/2077/NICKEL-CADMIUM-ACCUMULATORS-
>>> >OF-ADGEX-ENERGY.aspx
>>> >
>>> >Who needs a hot-cat if you can get unlimited free energy from a battery?
>>>
>>> I suspect that most of the power comes from the wiring in the home. It's
>>> by far
>>> the strongest form of EM radiation in a house. You only need to touch an
>>> oscilloscope lead to see this.
>>> IOW there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Robin van Spaandonk
>>>
>>> http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[Jones Beene]

There is a recent announcement making the rounds this morning - for a
self-charging battery which is apparently now in production in Australia,
for use in a flashlight. Apparently, the inventor thinks he can capture
Schumann resonance. It would be easy to write this off as fantasy . except
for the fact that it is (claimed to be) in actual production.

Curiously it uses nickel ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VYC8K77MSc

http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe#tabs-6

http://www.adgex.com/News/tabid/69/EntryId/2077/NICKEL-CADMIUM-ACCUMULATORS-
OF-ADGEX-ENERGY.aspx

Who needs a hot-cat if you can get unlimited free energy from a battery?

Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[mixent]

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:01:35 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
There is a recent announcement making the rounds this morning - for a
self-charging battery which is apparently now in production in Australia,
for use in a flashlight. Apparently, the inventor thinks he can capture
Schumann resonance. It would be easy to write this off as fantasy . except
for the fact that it is (claimed to be) in actual production.

Curiously it uses nickel ..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VYC8K77MSc

http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe#tabs-6

http://www.adgex.com/News/tabid/69/EntryId/2077/NICKEL-CADMIUM-ACCUMULATORS-
OF-ADGEX-ENERGY.aspx

Who needs a hot-cat if you can get unlimited free energy from a battery?

I suspect that most of the power comes from the wiring in the home. It's by far
the strongest form of EM radiation in a house. You only need to touch an
oscilloscope lead to see this.
IOW there ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

RE: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson]

From Jones,

 

 There is a recent announcement making the rounds this morning - for a
self-charging 

 battery which is apparently now in production in Australia, for use in a
flashlight.

 Apparently, the inventor thinks he can capture Schumann resonance.

 

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VYC8K77MSc

 http://trade.adgex.com.au/elfe#tabs-6


http://www.adgex.com/News/tabid/69/EntryId/2077/NICKEL-CADMIUM-ACCUMULATORS-
OF-ADGEX-ENERGY.aspx

 

[snip]

 

Who within the Vort Collective would like to volunteer to keep a casual
watch on this development?

 

I volunteered myself to watch Black Light Power until I recently got
defrocked. One would therefore think I might have a lot of free time on my
hands to pursue such a task. Curiously though, since I retired the opposite
seems to have happened. I'm not complaining. Doing what I want to do versus
what others want me to do for them does not seem to be a problem for me.

 

Regards,

Steven Vincent Johnson

OrionWorks.com

zazzle.com/orionworks

Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[Terry Blanton]

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Terry Blanton hohlr...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 There is a recent announcement making the rounds this morning - for a 
 self-charging battery which is apparently now in production in Australia, 
 for use in a flashlight.

 NASA Goddard says:

 There is a vertical current flow between the ground and the
 ionosphere of 1 - 3 x 10^-12 Amperes per square meter.  Let's see, if
 I'm charging my 3.7V nom. Lithium battery with a 1m antenna that's . .
 . funny.

Sorry, I left off the reference:

http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/q768.html

Re: [Vo]:Self- charging battery ADGEX

[Terry Blanton]

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

 There is a recent announcement making the rounds this morning - for a 
 self-charging battery which is apparently now in production in Australia, for 
 use in a flashlight.

NASA Goddard says:

There is a vertical current flow between the ground and the
ionosphere of 1 - 3 x 10^-12 Amperes per square meter.  Let's see, if
I'm charging my 3.7V nom. Lithium battery with a 1m antenna that's . .
. funny.