Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-06-22 Thread Standing Bear
On Monday 20 June 2005 22:24, John Coviello wrote: Professor Peter Hagelstein mentioned the iESiusa development at the MIT Cold Fusion colloquium last month. He said a group associated with iESiusa had secured a South Korean patent for a cold fusion technology and that he expected commercial

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-06-22 Thread Jed Rothwell
Standing Bear wrote: Dunno, but their web site only hands out old PDFs. Don't have the patience on a slow connection to get PDF's that will probably turn out to be not on subject. The PDFs they now hand out are old and not on subject. Our subject anyway. The PDFs and other info at the iESi

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-06-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
John Coviello wrote: iESiusa definitely deserves a field trip by cold fusion advocates to see if they seem legit. I have been in communication with them, and I would go, but they want visitors to sign a non-disclosure agreement (NDA), and that is something I will not do. As I said

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-06-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jean de Lagarde wrote: For more than three months since a large exchange in the beginning of march 2005, we have not heard about IESI. Have they been visited by competent people which coud give us news of this supposed fantastic breakthrough or does it exist non disclosure agreements that

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-06-20 Thread John Coviello
Professor Peter Hagelstein mentioned the iESiusa development at the MIT Cold Fusion colloquium last month. He said a group associated with iESiusa had secured a South Korean patent for a cold fusion technology and that he expected commercial developments in the near future. iESiusa also put

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-06-18 Thread Jean de Lagarde
Sources say there has been big breakthrough with CF Pd-Rh alloys. A company called Innovative Energy Solutions Inc. has been formed to market the technology. See: http://iesiusa.com/ - Jed For more than three months since a large exchange in the beginning of march 2005, we have not heard

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-06-18 Thread Jones Beene
Jean, Sources say there has been big breakthrough with CF Pd-Rh alloys. Aha... ! Is it merely coincidental - or were you considering Pd-Rh alloy for the MAHG? At least, something close to this was conclusion was also arrived at by me recently, based on a wide study of the literature of the

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-03-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
thomas malloy wrote: IMHO, if the device is producing a commercially feasible amount of energy, ten times the input energy, the instrumentation doesn't have to be too complex. I agree it does not have to be complex, but it has to be present. It is so easy to show 10 x input, why not do it? The

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-03-03 Thread Horace Heffner
At 10:24 AM 3/3/5, Edmund Storms wrote: You forget Nick, that hydrogen will be mainly obtained from water. As a result, each hydrogen atom that is produced is accompanied by the necessary oxygen for its conversion back to water. I think that was Nick's point too. Also of interest is the fact

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-03-03 Thread Jed Rothwell
A Friend wrote to me: The people I know who have been [to visit IESI] and seen the equipment can't say anything other than there are big objects making lots of noise but no data is apparent or being offered. It smells strongly of Potopov to me. - Jed

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-03-03 Thread Steven Krivit
Jed, Potopov is before my time. Can you say just a word or two about it? It worked? Didn't work? Status unknown? Thanks, Steve At 02:25 PM 3/3/2005 -0500, you wrote: A Friend wrote to me: The people I know who have been [to visit IESI] and seen the equipment can't say anything other than there

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-03-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stop the presses. I downloaded the white paper which is mostly white noise -- vapid. It describes the work of Hyunik Yang (Korea) et al. It says: They used resonate harmonic frequencies to expose the nuclei of atoms so they could put the nuclei together to obtain the energy from the fused

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-03-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Grimer wrote: I can understand your disgust with the poor standard of instrumentation, etc. Jed, but as far as I'm concerned, it all sounds terribly plausible. Actually, I think it is plausible too. That is why I am disgusted by the instrumentation, and also by the documents on this web site.

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-03-02 Thread Steven Krivit
Korean patent On http://iesiusa.com/intellectual.html there is a list of patents, but I don't recognize the number format. Can someone help? 10-20020026277 would be particularly interesting. :) Steve

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-03-02 Thread Hank Scudder
Jed, Just for the heck of it I did a google on Hyunik Yang and got a large number of responses. He has reported on nanowires of Gallium Nitride and Gallium Phosphide, as well as jointly with some russians on an ”Experimental Study of Peculiarities of Electric Explosion ...

Re: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-03-02 Thread Steven Krivit
Good work Robin. From their SEC filing (on their Web site) Patents 1. Hydrogen Technology 1. Korean Patent Application No. 10-2002-0026277 Energy Generating Device This patent has only been filed in Korean and has not been translated into English. The patent basically describes how the

RE: Big CF breakthrough reported

2005-03-02 Thread Keith Nagel
judgement until we find out more. They clearly have some tangible sort of business here. K. -Original Message- From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 11:32 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Big CF breakthrough reported In reply