Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-23 Thread thomas malloy
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: On 2/20/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could this provide a possible explanation for why Iran may actually be interested in a civilian nuclear power generation capability? A 50 MW heavy water reactor?? Surely you jest.

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-23 Thread Harry Veeder
thomas malloy wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Terry Blanton wrote: On 2/20/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could this provide a possible explanation for why Iran may actually be interested in a civilian nuclear power generation capability? A 50 MW heavy

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-23 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: reactor is a plutonium 239 generator, which is how the Canadians and Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I don't think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either. we built the bomb? Sure. Why else do you think Bush has not invaded

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-23 Thread Terry Blanton
On 2/23/07, Jed Rothwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: reactor is a plutonium 239 generator, which is how the Canadians and Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I don't think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either. we built the bomb?

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-23 Thread Harry Veeder
Jed Rothwell wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: reactor is a plutonium 239 generator, which is how the Canadians and Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I don't think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either. we built the bomb? Sure. Why else do you think

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-23 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Harry Veeder wrote: Jed Rothwell wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: reactor is a plutonium 239 generator, which is how the Canadians and Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I don't think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either. we built the bomb? Sure. Why else

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-23 Thread thomas malloy
Harry Veeder wrote: thomas malloy wrote: Canadians and Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I don't think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either. we built the bomb? Harry I think that Canada is a nuclear power, maybe not. They did however build

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-23 Thread Harry Veeder
thomas malloy wrote: Harry Veeder wrote: thomas malloy wrote: Canadians and Indians built their first bombs. Given the World's situation, I don't think that anyone is going to stop the Iranian either. we built the bomb? Harry I think that Canada is a nuclear power, maybe

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-22 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:25:32 -0500: Hi, [snip] Perhaps the fact that the president of Iran asserted that their goal is to erase Israel from the map has something to do with it. The actual phrase, reported in LeMonde IIRC, was something like rayer

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-22 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Robin van Spaandonk's message of Thu, 22 Feb 2007 22:08:28 +1100: Hi, [snip] As I understood it at the time, he should Israel should be ^^ said Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://users.bigpond.net.au/rvanspaa/ Competition (capitalism)

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-22 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Standing Bear wrote: Remember the Hindenberg? What, not old enough? Well we all saw the frantic newscast and the fiery pictures often enough if we have even been marginally educated. Most commentators blamed the Germans for being 'stupid' for building a hydrogen derigible or at least

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-22 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: In reply to Stephen A. Lawrence's message of Wed, 21 Feb 2007 13:25:32 -0500: Hi, [snip] Perhaps the fact that the president of Iran asserted that their goal is to erase Israel from the map has something to do with it. The actual phrase, reported in LeMonde IIRC,

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: AFAIK Iran is building several reactors. The big power reactor (approx. 1 GW) is at Bushehr see (http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/bushehr-intro.htm). This is an informative article. Iran wants to produce 20% of its electricity from nuclear power. The

RE: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-21 Thread Zell, Chris
The Russians keep complaining that they aren't getting paid by the Iranians for nuke technology.

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-21 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jed Rothwell wrote: Robin van Spaandonk wrote: AFAIK Iran is building several reactors. The big power reactor (approx. 1 GW) is at Bushehr see (http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/iran/bushehr-intro.htm). This is an informative article. Iran wants to produce 20% of its electricity

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-21 Thread Jed Rothwell
Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Honestly, I do not see how the US or any what other country can object to this. Perhaps the fact that the president of Iran asserted that their goal is to erase Israel from the map has something to do with it. Of course I realize he says that, but for that matter

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-21 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Honestly, I do not see how the US or any what other country can object to this. Perhaps the fact that the president of Iran asserted that their goal is to erase Israel from the map has something to do with it. Of course I realize he says

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-21 Thread Standing Bear
On Tuesday 20 February 2007 15:47, Jed Rothwell wrote: Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: The Iranians are destroying their own oil fields without help from us. Their fields are in such poor shape from mismanagement and bad technology that the country will soon not be able to produce enough for its

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-20 Thread Harry Veeder
I've also heard Iran has to import gasoline because their oil refining capacity is limited. Harry Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Jed Rothwell wrote: The Iranians are destroying their own oil fields without help from us. Their fields are in such poor shape from mismanagement and bad

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On 2/20/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could this provide a possible explanation for why Iran may actually be interested in a civilian nuclear power generation capability? A 50 MW heavy water reactor?? Surely you jest. Terry

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Terry Blanton wrote: Could this provide a possible explanation for why Iran may actually be interested in a civilian nuclear power generation capability? A 50 MW heavy water reactor?? Ah. Is that what they want to build? Google describes it: New satellite imagery obtained by ISIS from

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On 2/20/07, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well you have to begin somewhere. For example, Canada's first reactor for power production was the 20 MW Nuclear Power Demonstration (NPD) Reactor. It operated from 1962 to 1987. For more historical and technical details see:

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Harry Veeder wrote: I thought they wanted a conventional power reactor, which, as I said, makes sense even though they have lots of natural gas. A 50 MW unit has nothing to do with energy generation, as Terry points out. Well you have to begin somewhere. For example, Canada's first reactor

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Terry Blanton wrote: On 2/20/07, Harry Veeder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well you have to begin somewhere. For example, Canada's first reactor for power production was the 20 MW Nuclear Power Demonstration (NPD) Reactor. It operated from 1962 to 1987. For more historical and technical

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-20 Thread Stephen A. Lawrence
Terry Blanton wrote: On 2/20/07, Stephen A. Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Could this provide a possible explanation for why Iran may actually be interested in a civilian nuclear power generation capability? A 50 MW heavy water reactor?? Surely you jest. No jest, it was a serious

Re: [Vo]: Oil field crises in Saudi Arabia and Iran

2007-02-20 Thread Robin van Spaandonk
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Tue, 20 Feb 2007 18:11:55 -0500: Hi, [snip] Terry Blanton wrote: Could this provide a possible explanation for why Iran may actually be interested in a civilian nuclear power generation capability? A 50 MW heavy water reactor?? Ah. Is that what they want