Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-11 Thread Eric Walker
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:40 AM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: 2012-08-08_NIWeek_ Defkalion Technical presentation_ J Hadjichristos.pdf http://www.defkalion-energy.**com/forum/download/file.php?**id=23http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=23 These slides from

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-10 Thread Axil Axil
At this juncture, it is near impossible to tell what the exact nuclear mechanism is at play in the DGT reaction. The Piantelli based compound neutron mechanism has no support that I can see and is just a guess. Even the details of Rydberg matter mechanism is a guess, The matter could be

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-10 Thread Peter Gluck
What is happening now is that for the first time the products of the reaction(s) and their variation as a function of time and of other parameters can be analysed systematically. There are real possibilities to discover what happens, and a lot of unexpected things happen. It is not a simple system

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-10 Thread Axil Axil
Take note: *We use several layers of “agents”, coated around a Si-Al ceramic surface surrounding the nickel foam, to help RSH atoms to survive this journey. Some of these agents are ZnO, MgO and ZrO2.* They don't say what all the agents are. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Peter Gluck

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-10 Thread Peter Gluck
Being in their place, position, would you say what the agents are- exactly? By the way, who is greatest world authority in Rydberg Hydrogen? Peter On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Take note: *We use several layers of “agents”, coated around a Si-Al ceramic

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-10 Thread Axil Axil
Dear Peter you are naughty. For one who adheres to EGO OUT, you temp me sorely. Cheers: Axil On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Peter Gluck peter.gl...@gmail.com wrote: Being in their place, position, would you say what the agents are- exactly? By the way, who is greatest world authority

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-10 Thread Peter Gluck
I am naughty and sleepy but please give a few details/proofs. You have told a lot about Rydberg atoms and I think you know it better than me. On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: Dear Peter you are naughty. For one who adheres to EGO OUT, you temp me sorely.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012 - Rydberg H

2012-08-10 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 03:11 PM 8/9/2012, pagnu...@htdconnect.com wrote: Thanks, I perused it, but I'm not sure how Defkalion incorporates this into their proposed theory. Does anyone have any insights? -- Lou Pagnucco So's paper:

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-08-09 19:33, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, Videos (direct links) Alex Xanthoulis in LENR panel discussion http://youtu.be/0iKCLHxmISs Technical presentation Part 1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_BjWSuX3zE Part 2 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNclBoLgYP0 Part 3 -

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Daniel Rocha
I didn't have any problem. But I am registered their forums. Maybe you need too? 2012/8/9 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com So I can't download the technical presentation in pdf. Cheers, S.A. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-08-09 20:04, Daniel Rocha wrote: I didn't have any problem. But I am registered their forums. Maybe you need too? Could you upload the file somewhere? Google Docs, Dropbox, etc. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Daniel Rocha
It seems they only have a vague idea about what happens. They need special conditions in the lattice, they didn't specify exactly what, they just called it NAE, like Storms do. And that transmutation happens. They did not claim any particular theory. -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Daniel Rocha
I will send you. Then, you do it :) 2012/8/9 Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com On 2012-08-09 20:04, Daniel Rocha wrote: I didn't have any problem. But I am registered their forums. Maybe you need too? Could you upload the file somewhere? Google Docs, Dropbox, etc. Cheers, S.A.

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Alan J Fletcher
1. Alex Xanthoulis in LENR panel discussion at http://youtu.be/0iKCLHxmISs At the very end he says that they ARE moving from Greece to Vancouver, Canada

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Daniel Rocha
In the presentation it says they open their offices next month. 2012/8/9 Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com At the very end he says that they ARE moving from Greece to Vancouver, Canada -- Daniel Rocha - RJ danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Terry Blanton
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, even though I'm logged in, the DGT forum software says that: You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post. So I can't download the technical presentation in

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Part I : audio accent is hard to follow, impossible to read the slides -- I guess it's in the unavailable PDF Showed SEM's of Nickel powder and foam. LENR happens in Active Nuclear Environment. Disguised or Masquerading proton -- Coulomb repulsion zero for a very short window Everything

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:34 AM 8/9/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Part I : audio accent is hard to follow, impossible to read the slides -- I guess it's in the unavailable PDF Showed SEM's of Nickel powder and foam. LENR happens in Active Nuclear Environment. Disguised or Masquerading proton -- Coulomb

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 11:40 AM 8/9/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: 2012-08-08_NIWeek_ Defkalion Technical presentation_ J Hadjichristos.pdf http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=23 Reference 5 is to http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v108/i16/e165007 Phys. Rev. Lett. 108, 165007 (2012) [5 pages]

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:33 PM 8/9/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Reference 5 is to http://prl.aps.org/abstract/PRL/v108/i16/e165007 Full paper is at http://arxiv.org/abs/1112.5556

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Teslaalset
Here's a link to the pdf: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.5556v6.pdf On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: At 11:40 AM 8/9/2012, Alan J Fletcher wrote: 2012-08-08_NIWeek_ Defkalion Technical presentation_ J Hadjichristos.pdf

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 12:40 PM 8/9/2012, Teslaalset wrote: Here's a link to the pdf: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.5556v6.pdf You beat me to it!

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Robert Lynn
http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=23 As with Rossi still no 3rd party validation but lots of very interesting information: As many have speculated Defkalion are using a plasma source of quite high power, 24kV, 22mA at several kHz (automotive level performance), TZM

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Chemical Engineer
I would imagine that anything coming close to those high temperature (thousands of degrees) singularities evaporating would take alot of wear and tear from both the heat and particles actually getting sucked into the singularity. The constant, Hawking radiation spectrum of emissions should over

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:16 PM 8/9/2012, Robert Lynn wrote: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=23 I couldn't find the So paper (other than abstract) on the interaction between Rydberg H and metals, but here's a similar one which references him :

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Teslaalset
So's paper: http://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid%3A53984973-1766-45cc-8bcf-055be714ed73/datastreams/THESIS01 On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Alan J Fletcher a...@well.com wrote: At 01:16 PM 8/9/2012, Robert Lynn wrote: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/download/file.php?id=23 I

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Terry Blanton
Potassium and zirconium. Magic sauce! As expected. T

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread pagnucco
Thanks, I perused it, but I'm not sure how Defkalion incorporates this into their proposed theory. Does anyone have any insights? -- Lou Pagnucco So's paper: http://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid%3A53984973-1766-45cc-8bcf-055be714ed73/datastreams/THESIS01 On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 10:29 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Chemical Engineer
I do not see any mention of radiation/ionization products like gammas, x-ray, etc. They do mention UV laser bombardment. Trying to make sure my theory still holds... DGT still made out that they did not understand the complexities of their Rx I perused it, but I'm not sure how Defkalion

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread David Roberson
DGT mentioned that the reacting hydrogen electron was in the vicinity of the proton and nickel atom for a short time period during which the fusion occurred. Does this match quantum physics theory? I thought that there is no way to locate an electron at a particular time and that it is

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Chemical Engineer
Think of a big lightning ball floating inside that reactor creating ionizing radiation and lots of heat. I would think you would want to keep it away from the walls of your reactor and maybe spark plug/instruments else you will cook them. On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 7:16 PM, David Roberson

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Wolf Fischer
Did they say anything new? The audio quality is pretty bad, so I didn't understand everything: They are a) Talking to several countries (79 if I remember correctly) b) Trying to build production lines (which might take several years? I thought they were already building one...) c) Are they

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012 DGT mentioned that the reacting hydrogen electron was in the vicinity of the proton and nickel atom for a short time period during which the fusion occurred. Does this match quantum physics theory? I thought that there is no way to locate an electron at a particular time

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012 DGT mentioned that the reacting hydrogen electron was in the vicinity of the proton and nickel atom for a short time period during which the fusion occurred. Does this match quantum physics theory? I thought that there is no way to locate an electron at a particular time

RE: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012 DaveR, I got sidetracked with my posting on genies and all, kind of feeling a bit ‘hi’ today!, and forgot that I wanted to respond to your comment about mag-flds… absolutely they will be important because they affect the geometries

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread Axil Axil
Re: http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.5556v6.pdf Here is the article that goes with the paper above, I remembered that I saw this subject before and we talked about it. http://phys.org/news/2012-03-ions-closer-physical-quantum-plasmas.html Cheers: Axil On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Teslaalset

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread David Roberson
Subject: RE: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012 Lots of good things happening this week, and likely at ICCF too… good papers coming out. I am beginning to feel there’s a trend to see more theoretical papers about ‘deuterated metal lattices’ and other titles which indicate the theorists have begun

Re: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012

2012-08-09 Thread David Roberson
-Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:22 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Defkalion GT at NIWeek2012 Dave: I don’t think it’s going to be some oblique angle either… it’ll likely be some multiple of 90degs; or ‘half a pi