Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-14 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:15:59 -0500: Hi, [snip] Robin van Spaandonk wrote: If some form of fusion energy is developed, then this could turn out to be a wasted investment, since it assumes that energy distribution is most cheaply accomplished when that energy is

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-14 Thread R C Macaulay
LENR may be closer than once believed if you consider that once an LENR heat source becomes reliable, a refrigeration cycle driven gen set becomes more sensible. Richard Robin van Spaandonk wrote: If some form of fusion energy is developed, then this could turn out to be a wasted investment,

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-13 Thread R C Macaulay
Howdy Mark, Whadaya mean it ain't got nuthin to do wid da subject? If BO hadna' oiled the skids of politics with more grease imported from overseas and the middle east, he and Mac would both have lost. The way to hold an election is tie one hand of each candidate to the hand of the other

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-13 Thread mixent
In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:58:46 -0900: Hi, [snip] (11) subsidizing and cutting the red tape required to build a nationwide underground HVDC backbone power distribution system, a project similar in national defense significance to the construction of super

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-13 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 13, 2008, at 12:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In reply to Horace Heffner's message of Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:58:46 -0900: Hi, [snip] (11) subsidizing and cutting the red tape required to build a nationwide underground HVDC backbone power distribution system, a project similar in

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-13 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robin van Spaandonk wrote: If some form of fusion energy is developed, then this could turn out to be a wasted investment, since it assumes that energy distribution is most cheaply accomplished when that energy is electrical. Plasma fusion would need the electricity grid. It would probably

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-12 Thread Horace Heffner
http://www.iea.org/weo/docs/weo2008/fact_sheets_08.pdf Cumulative investment in energy-supply infrastructure amounts to $26.3 trillion to 2030. Unit capital costs, especially in the upstream oil and gas industry, have continued to surge in the last year, more than offsetting the slower

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-12 Thread Horace Heffner
In prior post: (8) subsidizing energy efficient door-to-door taxi/ limo/bus services, should have read (8) subsidizing energy efficient door-to-door taxi/limo/bus/delivery services,. Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: Cumulative investment in energy-supply infrastructure amounts to $26.3 trillion to 2030. . . . This kind of expenditure is not far off from what it could take to convert the world to renewable energy. Exactly! And it stands to reason that would be the case. An

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-12 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 12, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: . . . (2) reducing safety standards for EVs, allowing personal choice to assume risk at least up to that presented by motor cycles . . . BAD IDEA!!! Red Alert! Completely unnecessary and counterproductive.

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-12 Thread Jones Beene
Here is a recent story on Amyris, one the companies which can convert sugarcane direct into gasoline or diesel, which will hasten the switch from fossil fuels to renewables: http://www.amyrisbiotech.com/index.php?option=com_newsroomItemid=27 There is also an article in today's SF Chron on the

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner wrote: The majority of people can't or won't afford a $40,000 EV. That price is ridiculous. I am sure GM can make them much cheaper, if they try. Toyota makes lots of money selling the Prius at $22,000. The Prius is one small mod away from being a plug-in hybrid. (Or $6,000

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-12 Thread Horace Heffner
On Nov 12, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: [snip] . . . (2) reducing safety standards for EVs, allowing personal choice to assume risk at least up to that presented by motor cycles . . . BAD IDEA!!! Red Alert! Completely unnecessary and counterproductive.

Re: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-12 Thread Jed Rothwell
I wrote: As far as I am concerned, they should put automatic sensors in all automobiles and charge anyone who goes over the speed limit a hefty fine, say $1 per mile per minute; i.e., $15 for travelling at 70 mph in a 55 mph zone for 1 minute, automatically subtracted from your credit card

RE: [Vo]:IEA admits major oil shortfall

2008-11-12 Thread Mark Iverson
I'm reading from latest posting, backwards, so it's not in the least surprising that this thread now has nothing to do with oil as the subject line suggests!!! :-) Given that, and just wanting to stir the pot a bit... Jed writes: As far as I am concerned, they should put automatic sensors