to this, but this is the gist
What do you think?
Lawrence
-Original Message-
From: Robin van Spaandonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 5:21 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?
In reply to Lawrence de Bivort's message of Sun, 9 Mar 2008 08:52:34
Lawrence de Bivort wrote:
My general
proposition is that when systems, like corporations, become 'too big' that
due to the internal dynamics of bigness they come to act overall at a
mediocre level of intelligence.
This does seem to be the case. This and other related problems are
described
to study the dynamics I
allude to.
And, no, Ford and GM have not been clients of mine. Unfortunately.
Cheers,
Lawrence
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From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 12:39 PM
To: vortex
Subject: [Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?
SNIP
In reply to Lawrence de Bivort's message of Sun, 9 Mar 2008 08:52:34 -0400:
Hi,
[snip]
Partly it is a matter of Reverting to the Mean, and partly a matter of there
being only so many genuinely brilliant leaders and with size their net
impact is diluted by the inevitable bulk of mediocre people in
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From: thomas malloy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 12:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?
Terry Blanton wrote:
I can't allow the denigration of engineers in the automotive industry
continue. I had a friend who was an engineering
Disturbing the Universe by Freeman
Dyson. This is what you could call one-dimensional thinking.
P.
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From: R C Macaulay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 8:33:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Re: Tooo obvious for Detroit?
Howdy Vorts,
People
Yep, Philip,
We have unit 3 4 nuke plant starting construction soon at Bay City Texas..
part of the South Texas project. They are having their share of the problems
using a Jap design .. plus the environmental problems to overcome.
The problem with Nukes are...
They can operate some 40-50
In reply to R C Macaulay's message of Sat, 8 Mar 2008 11:58:06 -0600:
Hi,
[snip]
Yep, Philip,
We have unit 3 4 nuke plant starting construction soon at Bay City Texas..
part of the South Texas project. They are having their share of the problems
using a Jap design .. plus the environmental
Terry Blanton wrote:
I can't allow the denigration of engineers in the automotive industry
continue. I had a friend who was an engineering manager in Detroit
I agree, IMHO, it's the MBA's and the lawyers.
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I can't allow the denigration of engineers in the automotive industry
continue. I had a friend who was an engineering manager in Detroit
and he said that the reason they built $hitty cars was management and
marketing. The engineers battled constantly for design and
manufacturing standards only
Jones, in fairness, your truncation does miss my point. Repost with the full
quotation beyond the '...' and I'll be glad to respond.
Lawrence
-Original Message-
From: Jones Beene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2008 11:07 AM
To: vortex
Subject: [Vo]:Re: Tooo
MC: Jones is a very sophistcated and clever man, author of thought-provoking
posts. But he can missd the point in a very complex subject.
People in general, including Jones, do the best they can within the vision
that they have and organizations they work for.
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