Re: [Vo]:Scientific American censors discussion of cold fusion, including statements by its own editors

2012-10-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Ouellette closed the discussion section of the article. (At least, she
closed it to me.)

I was going to tell her I summarized our discussion in the news item.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Scientific American censors discussion of cold fusion, including statements by its own editors

2012-10-31 Thread Daniel Rocha
She did close and George end up defending cold fusion!


2012/10/31 Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com

 Ouellette closed the discussion section of the article. (At least, she
 closed it to me.)

 I was going to tell her I summarized our discussion in the news item.

 - Jed





-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com


RE: [Vo]:Scientific American censors discussion of cold fusion, including statements by its own editors

2012-10-31 Thread Jones Beene
The county I live in (Marin Co. CA) is not large in population - but does
have 18 branch libraries with magazine sections. I suspect that all of them
subscribe to Sci-Am.

 

I am going to write to the head Librarian to request cancelation of all
subscriptions to Sci-Am except for one or two to archive. I will cc to the
mag. editors.

 

The argument for cancellation is of course not based upon one ignorant
blogger's uneducated comments, nor the lack of a fair appraisal of the
science (we expect that). Instead the argument for cancellation is based on
the magazine's implicit decision at the editorial level to allow selective
censorship of responses..

 

I doubt that this effort will succeed - but I encourage everyone else on
Vortex - who is in a locale that values freedom of speech, and has lots of
libraries with Sci-Am subscriptions g to do likewise.

 

Jones

 

 

 

 

From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 7:40 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Scientific American censors discussion of cold fusion,
including statements by its own editors

 

LENR-CANR news item:

 

http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?p=1373



Re: [Vo]:Scientific American censors discussion of cold fusion, including statements by its own editors

2012-10-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:


 I am going to write to the head Librarian to request cancelation of all
 subscriptions to Sci-Am except for one or two to archive. I will cc to the
 mag. editors.


I think that is going too far!

They are not the only ones attacking cold fusion, after all.


By the way, in my news item I added handy hyperlinks to my #2 message, in
case you are wondering who I had in mind at the PPPL.

It is astounding that Ouellette thinks she knows so much more than the
Chairman of the AEC and these others. She is arrogant. Pride goes before
the fall. I would say this column is a gift to us, except that it is very
well written. McKubre pointed that out. He suspects it is a concerted
effort by several leading members of the opposition.

- Jed


Re: [Vo]:Scientific American censors discussion of cold fusion, including statements by its own editors

2012-10-31 Thread James Bowery
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 10:13 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.comwrote:


  She is arrogant. Pride goes before the fall. I would say this column is a
 gift to us, except that it is very well written. McKubre pointed that out.
 He suspects it is a concerted effort by several leading members of the
 opposition.


This is why I refer to her as a pawn and wonder what was the point of
this sacrifice.

Is it really just to immunize SciAm's herd of zombies against the heresy*
represented by the film The Believers?

*The heresy of The Believers being, of course, that it didn't, in the
mode of the faithful and pious pseudoskeptic, viciously attack genuine
skeptics.


Re: [Vo]:Scientific American censors discussion of cold fusion, including statements by its own editors

2012-10-31 Thread Jed Rothwell
James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:


 McKubre pointed that out. He suspects it is a concerted effort by several
 leading members of the opposition.


 This is why I refer to her as a pawn and wonder what was the point of
 this sacrifice.


This will not hurt her. Even if cold fusion triumphs, people will forget
that she played a minor role in opposing it. People such as Garwin and and
Frank Close may be held to account, but not her.

No matter what happens, many of the people who opposed cold fusion will
continue to play a major role in the scientific establishment. There are
not enough supporters to replace them. In his 1940 cabinet, Churchill kept
on many of Chamberlain's appointees. He later explained:

If one were dependent on the people who had been right in the last few
years, what a tiny handful one would have to depend on.

I expect that Garwin, Close and the others will do fine. They will soon
modestly accept credit for bringing cold fusion to the world.

- Jed