Andrea and Jed sez:
>> Mark, I think he should have started his marketing campaign in a country
>> with no internet connections.
>
> Yes!
North Korea could really use the energy.
Guess they could go out and sell a couple of missals to al qaeda.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
Andrea Selva wrote:
Mark, I think he should have started his marketing campaign in a
country with no internet connections.
Yes!
- Jed
obligations?
>
> I hope Rossi has learned the lesson, and will only be making contracts with
> those who have plenty of
> liquid assets so they don't delay his schedule.
>
> -Mark
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson [mailto:svj.ori
rionwo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:11 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:The dream is over? Rossi - Defkalion ran out of money?
Thanks Andrea,
It would appear that Mr. Iverson's assessment may have been pretty accurate.
Put out [the money] or it's the hi-
Rossi says no tests of his e-cat technology have been made in GREECE.
Defkalion may still have some prototype hyperion units (containing e-cats) in
another country.
Harry
From: Jed Rothwell
>To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
>Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 2:57:41 PM
>Subject: Re: [Vo]:The
It takes a lawyer, or a former lawyer, to recognize the following comment by
Jones (a former
lawyer):
2)"There are no Rossi reactors in Greece." True. In fact the reactors
submitted to the Greek
government are made by DGT, called Hyperions and are not Rossi's E-Cats, and
come from a design o
Daniel Rocha wrote:
Jed, I meant dismissed before he split out of Defkalion. He was okay with
> them lying while there was promise of money from Defkalion. If that was some
> minor detail, that would be alright, like releasing date, some fine detail
> about the working of the machines. But, they
Whoa! The Dream is not over. It has just been renamed . and/or redefined.
There does not have to be a lie. The scenario which keeps everyone (both
Rossi and DGT) technically honest is:
1)Cyprus is not Greece, and there are at least two corporate entities
involved with similar names - ma
Thanks Andrea,
It would appear that Mr. Iverson's assessment may have been pretty accurate.
Put out [the money] or it's the hi-way.
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
www.zazzle.com/orionworks
At 12:01 PM 8/8/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote:
Andrea Rossi
August 8th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
the only problem has been that
they were delaying from months their financial duties, until it has not
been possible to go ahead. Of course, since they have not respected what
due,
Which contradicts Ros
Andrea Rossi
August 8th, 2011 at 1:38 PM
Dear Alessandro Casali:
I repeat that the reason of the split from Defkalion has been only and
exclusively financial.
As for all the other issue: as all our Readers know, I always said that
we would have been ready for the market from November only with
Jed, I meant dismissed before he split out of Defkalion. He was okay with
them lying while there was promise of money from Defkalion. If that was some
minor detail, that would be alright, like releasing date, some fine detail
about the working of the machines. But, they lied about everything! They
Alan J Fletcher wrote:
> This is a good summary of Rossi versus Defkalion claims, and Defkalion's
> statements about testing in the Greek government.
>
>
> Except that Defkalion never said they built a CORE (The "fist-sized" part
> of the mini-eCat).
>
Rossi says "Not one single test, of the man
>From Daniel:
> I am not talking about something personal. Just that there was at the very
> least a scam from Defkalion.
Again, it's just business!
Perhaps the following links will shed light on the "nothing personal"
phrase. ;-)
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/show/29227
http://www.great-quot
Daniel Rocha wrote:
I am not talking about something personal. Just that there was at the very
> least a scam from Defkalion.
Perhaps, but I think it is more likely that Rossi is lying about what
Defkalion has.
I think it is unlikely he does not realize what they have. But I suppose it
is poss
At 11:37 AM 8/8/2011, Jed Rothwell wrote:
I wrote: One or the other has to
be lying.
PESN agrees with me. See:
http://pesn.com/2011/08/07/9501887_An_E-Cat_Full_of_Lies_-_Rossi_or_Defkalion/
This is a good summary of Rossi versus Defkalion claims, and Defkalion's
statements about testing in the
Daniel Rocha wrote:
So, at the very least, Rossi erred by omission, a very bad one, by not
> dismissing Defkalion's claims of massively testing e-cats. So, he blatantly
> associated with liars and cheaters.
I do not understand what you mean, "not dismissing." He does dismiss them.
He says " Not
I am not talking about something personal. Just that there was at the very
least a scam from Defkalion.
>From Daniel:
> So, at the very least, Rossi erred by omission, a very bad one, by not
> dismissing Defkalion's claims of massively testing e-cats. So, he blatantly
> associated with liars and cheaters.
It's just business.
Nothing personal. ;-)
Regards
Steven Vincent Johnson
www.OrionWorks.com
I wrote:
One or the other has to be lying.
>
PESN agrees with me. See:
http://pesn.com/2011/08/07/9501887_An_E-Cat_Full_of_Lies_-_Rossi_or_Defkalion/
This is a good summary of Rossi versus Defkalion claims, and Defkalion's
statements about testing in the Greek government.
A later report:
http
So, at the very least, Rossi erred by omission, a very bad one, by not
dismissing Defkalion's claims of massively testing e-cats. So, he blatantly
associated with liars and cheaters.
Daniel Rocha wrote:
> So, we now are aware that one of the parties, either Rossi's or Defkalion,
> has been telling big lies. That makes everything questionable. So, I think
> it is safe to say that, true or not, Rossi's device is at a dead end.
>
On the contrary, when people start fighting ove
I think it is difficult to think that Rossi was not aware of what was
written on the Defkalion's forums by the their staff:
- They have build working systems -- kilowatt scale and megawatt scale.
- Their design for the reactor is different than yours, but is fully
functional.
- They n
It depends on what was your dream- Rossi's E-cat or
LENR performed with Ni but also with all transition metals
on industrial level.
However it would be good to know who has told the Big LIe
Rossi or the Greek Company- do they (the Company) have
generators and some basic know how? Can they continu
>From Daniel,
> So, we now are aware that one of the parties, either Rossi's or Defkalion,
> has been telling big lies. That makes everything questionable. So, I think
> it is safe to say that, true or not, Rossi's device is at a dead end.
Indeed it raises plenty of questions of the soap opera ki
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