I think I solved the aluminum supply problem.
Just feed your beer cans into a shredder at the top of the device, p*ss
into it, and you get
... a self-powered drunk-driving machine !
More info:
http://www.phillipscompany.4t.com/HYDROGEN.html
The information below described a new catalyst, CC, that requires zero energy
input once the reaction is started and heated to 180F. After that, hydrogen
is produced for as long as fuel (water and aluminum) are provided.
Zero energy
More info:
http://www.phillipscompany.4t.com/HYDROGEN.html
The information below described a new catalyst, CC, that requires zero
energy input once the reaction is started and heated to 180F. After that,
hydrogen is produced for as long as fuel (water and aluminum) are provided.
Zero
to fill bags for balloons.
Dave
-Original Message-
From: OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson svj.orionwo...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:08 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:World's best H2 catalyst?
More info:
http://www.phillipscompany.4t.com/HYDROGEN.html
From David:
I would also take a second look at the net process energy balance.
If aluminum is required as fuel, you would be in big trouble as it
takes a lot of energy to obtain the fuel. Years ago I made H gas by
putting lye and water into a jar with aluminum foil. My friends and I
used
- Steven V Johnsonsvj.orionwo...@gmail.com
To: vortex-lvortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Feb 8, 2012 10:08 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:World's best H2 catalyst?
More info:
, and harvest the aluminum oxide byproduct for use in
their production processes.
Absent that, am I missing something?
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:28:47 +
From: l...@thedyers.org.uk
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:World's best H2 catalyst?
Indeed. I had just
: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:World's best H2 catalyst?
Indeed. I had just written a reply saying virtually the same think
when your Email arrived. I do not beleive that there is any magic here
that breaks any laws of physics.
On 08/02/2012 15:15, David Roberson wrote:
I would also take a second look
From: Robert Leguillon
*
* This is a lot of aluminum consumption. These are
back-of-the-napkin-style calculations, so I apologize if I've missed
something, but (unless I've made a large mistake) it appears that:
2[Al ]+ 6[H2O] + CC = CC + 2[Al(OH)3] + 3H2
. Absent that, am I
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:
He can drive you around in a vehicle powered this way -
for a fraction of the cost of gasoline.
Sober, I hope.
T
yes, but it is a method to use aluminum as a vector fuel for hydrogen,
provided you have a cheap way to transform Aluminum Hydroxide into
Aluminium...
today not so cheap, but with LENR electricity, maybe the usual method is
OK...
but hydrogen also is a vector, so... many indirection... just to
Von: Alain Sepeda alain.sep...@gmail.com
An: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Gesendet: 18:42 Mittwoch, 8.Februar 2012
Betreff: Re: [Vo]:World's best H2 catalyst?
yes, but it is a method to use aluminum as a vector fuel for hydrogen,
provided you have a cheap way
from discussion here I got the feeling that at a given minimum size,
the answer is : Rankine Cycle turbine, maybe Organic Rankine.
however the minimum size is not clear...
maybe car (20-50kW) is possible.
have to work on turbine, but also radiators, key problem.
for CHP 7-15KW, not sure it can
In reply to Guenter Wildgruber's message of Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:43:28 +
(GMT):
Hi,
[snip]
The next billion dollar question: How to get electricity from say 400°C with
minimal cost/maximum efficiency?
...ask the nuclear fission power industry. They do it all the time.
Regards,
Robin van
While I don't think Stirling are good for larger sizes I do think that they
might work well for 0.2-3kW. Stirling engines were in large volume
production 100 years ago for small output applications (though they were
big and heavy), and the cost is less of a negative factor for small sizes
if they
yest, even below 400C, at 300C+ if I remember,
but with minimum Megawatt power, if not Gigawatt...
who knows what is the smallest efficient rankine turbine ?
2012/2/8 mix...@bigpond.com
In reply to Guenter Wildgruber's message of Wed, 8 Feb 2012 18:43:28 +
(GMT):
Hi,
[snip]
The next
their white paper
http://www.cyclonepower.com/PDF/Cyclone%20Engine%20White%20Paper.pdf
present their rankine engine concept.
it seems that direct drive is possible, since torke can be very high at
starting.
weight and power is ok...
with LENR maybe the throttle will be less easy to control...
At 07:41 AM 2/8/2012, Robert Leguillon wrote:
This is a lot of aluminum
consumption. These are back-of-the-napkin-style calculations, so I
apologize if I've missed something, but (unless I've made a large
mistake) it appears that:
So, we currently produce hydrogen at approx.
$.006048/mole, and
Philips Company ...
http://www.phillipscompany.4t.com/Products.html
... seems a bit flakey.
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