Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
There is a pretty good photo by Mats Lewan of the band heater and reactor section here: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3166552.ece Best regards, Horace Heffner http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/

Re: [Vo]:A simple method for extremely accurate enthalpy measurement

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: I don't see your point. I used to do this test with a hose producing 75 kW at Hydrodynamics Inc. It worked fine. The results were close to the expected amount from that heater. If that was a

Re: [Vo]:Corrections to heat after death calculations

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 1, 2011, at 10:24 AM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner wrote: Here is what all the opinions in the world cannot change: liquid flow test proves that the machine is producing 12 to 16 kW of excess heat. Period. Again, where is the data for this test.

Re: [Vo]:Corrections to heat after death calculations

2011-09-02 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: My first reaction is: did it not occur to anyone in 18 hours to reduce the flow by a factor of 10 so as to get more reliable numbers?  The restriction would not have to be precise.  Everything depends on the flow

Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline

2011-09-02 Thread Joe Catania
10kW sounds very low, are you in the South? - Original Message - From: Peter Heckert peter.heck...@arcor.de To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2011 5:39 PM Subject: Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline Am 01.09.2011 23:12, schrieb Peter Heckert:

[Vo]:Meat without slaughter: '6 months' to bio-sausages

2011-09-02 Thread Terry Blanton
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21128283.500-meat-without-slaughter.html (Registration may be required -- For Vortex-l use only) 31 August 2011 by Andy Coghlan Editorial: Credible or inedible? Who needs whole animals when you can grow burgers and sausages from their cells alone, in the

Re: [Vo]:Corrections to heat after death calculations

2011-09-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: My first reaction is: did it not occur to anyone in 18 hours to reduce the flow by a factor of 10 so as to get more reliable numbers? I would not recommend that: 1. The machine went bonkers when they started the run, producing very high heat. I

[Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: I am happy to see such a neat application was found for Grigg's technology. I hope he has benefited from it. Griggs left the company many years ago. The company seems to be doing well. They no longer talk about the fact that their machine

Re: [Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
What do you mean by excess heat? I thought it was a link to a website of bio fuel.

Re: [Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean by excess heat? I thought it was a link to a website of bio fuel. It is a long story. The Hydrodynamics gadget produces heat by generating ultrasound. Under some circumstances it appears to produce anomalous excess heat. Many years ago

Re: [Vo]:Meat without slaughter: '6 months' to bio-sausages

2011-09-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
I sure hope this works out. I described this enthusiastically in chapter 16 of my book. I have read that the first cultured meat (in vitro meat) may not taste very good. It may lack flavor and the fibers may not stick together much, giving it an odd texture. Perhaps they can use it for filler, or

Re: [Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
Do you have links for articles regarding this experiment? It looks like fishy.

Re: [Vo]:September 22 might be Rossi's final deadline

2011-09-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
Enzo September 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 AM Dear Dr. Rossi, good luck for tomorrow Andrea Rossi September 2nd, 2011 at 3:10 AM Dear Enzo: I always am delighted of good luck wishes, but…what happens tomorrow of special? Warm Regards, A.R.

Re: [Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Jed Rothwell
Daniel Rocha danieldi...@gmail.com wrote: Do you have links for articles regarding this experiment? It looks like fishy. See p. 43-1 here: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/EPRIproceedingc.pdf it was not fishy. I do not do fishy stuff. It was inconclusive. it is unfinished business. If cold

Re: [Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
Jed, there isn't something called cold fusion. The most reasonable papers, since Schwinger, consider the solid as a kind of powerful device to converge and collide phonons in a small region with an energy of several million degrees, and these phonons also block and take away the heavy radiation

Re: [Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 2, 2011, at 9:44 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote: Jed, there isn't something called cold fusion. This has to be one of the very best newbie statements I have ever seen on this list! It wouldn't have been so emotion evoking if it hadn't been directed at Jed. 8^))) Best regards, Horace

Re: [Vo]:the Alien Scientist extents my work

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 2, 2011, at 9:57 AM, fznidar...@aol.com wrote: http://alienscientist.com/theory.pdf Frank Z Frank this is wonderful! You guys should work out a book deal. All you need to do is fill in with some background physics explanations, add a lot of good graphics and you have a great

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 04:57 PM 9/1/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: The total power of resisters (in your drawing) at 300 W + 300 W = 600 W seems low. Rossi states in Krivit's film he is using 748 watts, from which I did the following computations: http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/KrivitFilm.pdf In another demo the

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 04:57 PM 9/1/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: The total power of resisters (in your drawing) at 300 W + 300 W = 600 W seems low. Rossi states in Krivit's film he is using 748 watts, from which I did the following computations:

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Susan Gipp
The dimmers are commercial ones from an Italian manifacturer. Here the specs http://www.gsei.it/attachs/P020_01.pdf In Italian sorry. Try google translator. 2011/9/2 Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net On Sep 2, 2011, at 11:41 AM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 04:57 PM 9/1/2011, Horace

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
It would have been so much better to use a variac or multi-tapped transformer to vary power. Then a very cheap meter (under $30) could have been used to monitor both instant power and accumulated kWh. This could have been done for about $100 per power lead into the device. Best

Re: [Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
Funny thing it is that I read more than 100 papers on his website.

Re: [Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
Let me reinstate that phrase. There shouldn`t be something called cold fusion, it doesn`t make sense. Millons a temperature of several thousand KeV is required to get over the coulomb barrier as well as a very hard shield is required to absorb the gamma rays. Any serious theory takes that into

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:04 PM 9/2/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: So we have either 9+3 : 9/9 * 300W + 3/9 * R2 = (770W - 65W) giving R2 = 1215W and maximum power at 9+9 is 1515W 3+9 : 3/9 * 300W + 9/9 * R2 = (770W - 65W) giving R2 = 605W and maximum power at 9+9 is 905W If we could trace the cables then we could

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 01:54 PM 9/2/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: That was just a first-order calculation. I presumed the maximum wattages are for the same input voltages. You can do the whole V=IR foo if you want to, but you don't know the voltages applied to the resistors or the resistor values themselves.

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 01:54 PM 9/2/2011, Alan J Fletcher wrote: That was just a first-order calculation. I presumed the maximum wattages are for the same input voltages. You can do the whole V=IR foo if you want to, but you don't know the voltages applied

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 2, 2011, at 1:17 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote: Horace Heffner hheff...@mtaonline.net wrote: I have attached a jpg of the inside of the controller box. Sure is a rat's nest of wires. Where did you get that? A screen capture from a video? A still image? - Jed Yes. I stopped the

Re: [Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:41 PM, Daniel Rocha wrote: Let me reinstate that phrase. There shouldn`t be something called cold fusion, it doesn`t make sense. Millons a temperature of several thousand KeV is required to get over the coulomb barrier as well as a very hard shield is required to

Re: [Vo]:Comments about Hydrodynamics

2011-09-02 Thread Daniel Rocha
I mentioned the focusing of phonons. They are lattice vibrations, so the situation where fusion happens is similar to the collapse of a bubble in sonofusion or the implosion of a fission bomb. The specific details for branching ratios varies or how the collective phenomena varies from theory to

[Vo]:OT: Rescuing a lost quark (our vacation report)

2011-09-02 Thread OrionWorks - Steven Vincent Johnson
Hello Vorts! My wife and I are back from an extended vacation out to Reno, Nevada, Idaho, and Utah. First of all, I want to apologize to Mark Iverson for not being able to take him up on his invitation to get together while we were in Reno. The World Science Fiction convention took up all

Re: [Vo]:Structure of Rossi device

2011-09-02 Thread Horace Heffner
On Sep 2, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Alan J Fletcher wrote: At 01:04 PM 9/2/2011, Horace Heffner wrote: [snip] Gee, if choppers are used this creates transients in the input, and invalidates the use of ordinary current meters or power meters. The current meters in the experiments were on the