On Sep 1, 2011, at 5:53 PM, Jed Rothwell wrote:

Horace Heffner <[email protected]> wrote:
I don't see your point. I used to do this test with a hose producing 75 kW at Hydrodynamics Inc. It worked fine. The results were close to the expected amount from that heater.


If that was a Griggs device I wonder if your memory might be failing you, like mine has been failing me. Didn't Griggs use around 7 hp motors and achieve much less than a COP of 2, more like 1.2?

He had small ones but I tested huge ones. They could be set to produce no excess, in which case this method recovered about 90% of the input energy, as I recall. It was tricky to make them produce excess. You could tell the thing was in the excess mode by the sound.

You can see a photo a huge one here:

http://hydrodynamics.com/products/large-flow-reactors/

- Jed


I am happy to see such a neat application was found for Grigg's technology. I hope he has benefited from it.

I do see the application appears to be mixing, not steam production.

"Harnessing the power of cavitation, the ShockWave PowerTM Reactor drives the transesterification reaction further to completion than conventional mixing systems. "

http://hydrodynamics.com/app/download/4743775404/General+Biodiesel +Press+Release+Final.pdf

"The use of cavitation prior to liquefaction has been demonstrated to liberate additional starches, significantly increasing yield."

http://hydrodynamics.com/app/download/4756843604/International+Fuel +Ethanol+Workshop+2011.pdf

I didn't see any mention of the power used. The motors definitely look to be in or over the 100 HP (75 kW), range though!

I am still curious about the inner diameter of the steam hose you used. I find it difficult to believe 75 kW of steam can be stuck into a bucket by hand for calorimetry.

I think 75 kW would vaporize about 30 ml cold water/sec, and produce about 47 liters/sec of steam. A 1 cm radius hose like Rossi's would produce a steam velocity of 75 m/s, or 270 kph. I can't imagine immersing that kind of steam jet into a bucket being either safe, or the bucket reliably absorbing all the steam. I think 10 kW would produce about 36 kph output from a 1 cm ID hose, still pretty fast, about 10 m/s.

Best regards,

Horace Heffner
http://www.mtaonline.net/~hheffner/




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