[Vo]:Pirelli Foundation funds successful LENR Cold Fusion Project

2012-04-20 Thread Ron Kita
Greetings Vortex-L If you use a Google Chrome browser it will automatically translate this for you: http://www.greenme.it/informarsi/energie-rinnovabili/7458-fusione-fredda-e-cat-studenti It can be seen even in Italian that the Pirelli Foundation funded the research and a patent application was

[Vo]:Storms paper

2012-04-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Hi. My version of the Storms paper is 344 kB, compressed with PDF Converter Professional. The one Ed sent you is 782 kB so you might want to use mine: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEastudentsg.pdf - Jed

Re: [Vo]:Storms paper

2012-04-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Oops. That was supposed to go to Ruby. Anyway, my version is smaller than the others that are circulating, plus I fixed the page numbers. - Jed

[Vo]:Papers from Robert Bass

2012-04-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Robert Bass recently sent me several papers. I uploaded 6. There are a few others pending. See: http://lenr-canr.org/wordpress/?page_id=1097 - Jed

RE: [Vo]:Papers from Robert Bass

2012-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
Amazing that the first paper from 1990 no less, could be relevant to Rossi/DGT/Ni-H with only a few changes and updates. Bass was already thinking about control issues and poor reliability back then. In retrospect - the solutions are just short of obvious and generic. Alain recently posted to

[Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread fznidarsic
50 nano-meters ..is the magic domain that produces a detectable cold fusion reaction Jed Rothwell, Infinite Energy, Issue 29, 1999, page 23. 50nm times ir freq = 1 million meters per sec; Znidarsic's constant. Frankz

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Where does the charge go? Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin and angular momentum are combined... -m _ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 6:19 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread David Roberson
It is an excellent idea to think out of the box Mark as in this case. Keep your ideas coming! Dave -Original Message- From: MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Fri, Apr 20, 2012 1:14 pm Subject: RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron Where does

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Axil Axil
SEE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(physics) On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.netwrote: Where does the charge go? Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin and angular momentum are combined... -m

[Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion

2012-04-20 Thread Harry Veeder
Sterlling Allan interviews Brilliuon Energy. At 39 minutes someone says CBS is talking to Mckubre about following up their 2009 story on cold fusion . http://www.mevio.com/episode/313695/fen.120417 Harry

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Alan J Fletcher
At 10:28 AM 4/20/2012, Axil Axil wrote: SEE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(physics) Thanks ... and Nature now has an abstract http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nature10974.html#/contrib-auth and an article:

Re: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion

2012-04-20 Thread Harry Veeder
actually its closer to 37 minute mark. On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote: Sterlling Allan interviews Brilliuon Energy. At 39 minutes  someone says CBS is talking to Mckubre about following up their 2009 story on cold fusion .

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Thanks Dave. I even have a hat that has the phrase, Think outside the Box! I've haven't been able to contribute to the idea-tossing within the Collective for awhile because I've been busy with discussions/presentations with an investment group for our technology to do noninvasive (painless)

Re: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test

2012-04-20 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt.stea...@gmail.com An: Vortex vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 23:41 Donnerstag, 19.April 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test Hoyt, You probably know John Walker, the founder of autodesk. He seems

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Where does the charge go? Perhaps 'charge' is an effect which only occurs or manifests when spin and angular momentum are combined... The article speaks about orbital momentum. T

Re: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion

2012-04-20 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Harry Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 19:34 Freitag, 20.April 2012 Betreff: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion This is one of Allans better takes, it seems to me. Question: Why is Brilloin/Godes not able to collect a

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Aren't angular momentum and orbital momentum are the same thing? -m -Original Message- From: Terry Blanton [mailto:hohlr...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 11:41 AM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 1:14 PM,

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Axil Axil
I wonder if electron based quasiparticles can be involved or even causative in the cold fusion mechanism. In physics, fractionalization is the phenomenon whereby the quasiparticles of a system cannot be constructed as combinations of its elementary constituents. One of the earliest and most

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread David Roberson
Does the statement that no observable quantity can depend upon the assignment suggest the multi-universe theory? In that case the spinon and chargon types would be one choice in one universe and the second choice appearing within the other. Our observation would reveal which universe we

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Terry Blanton
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 3:14 PM, MarkI-ZeroPoint zeropo...@charter.net wrote: Aren't angular momentum and orbital momentum are the same thing? Well, technically no since there is spin angular momentum and orbital angular momentum. I was simply clarifying what it meant to separate spin from the

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread integral.property.serv...@gmail.com
Mark, Perhaps adding references to your web page such as : http://photonicssociety.org/newsletters/apr98/overview.htm may allow a viewer to grasp the complexity and and importance of your efforts. Warm Regards, Reliable MarkI-ZeroPoint wrote: Thanks Dave… I even have a hat that has the

RE: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion

2012-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
I think it is a cultural difference. Rossi insinuates having 50 mill, yet is essentially bankrupt. Brillouin claims to need 5 mill, when they already have 5 and want 25. From: Guenter Wildgruber Question: Why is Brilloin/Godes not able to collect a meager 5million? (I asked

RE: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Interesting. 45.6nm is also ? the Rydberg wavelength and the natural unit of length in Dewey Larson's Reciprocal System of physics. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US -Original Message- From: fznidar...@aol.com [mailto:fznidar...@aol.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 9:37 AM To:

Re: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion

2012-04-20 Thread Guenter Wildgruber
Von: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net An: vortex-l@eskimo.com Gesendet: 22:19 Freitag, 20.April 2012 Betreff: RE: [Vo]:CBS, Mckubre and cold fusion Jones,  for some fun see here: In memoriam: After years of health problems, Facts has finally died. ...

RE: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
The Rydberg wavelength is a natural unit in all physics, given that hydrogen is 90% of the known universe. Nothing novel there. The problem - in making any sense out of Frank's constant is that (as he well knows) IR light is not a single frequency, nor even a characteristic frequency, but instead

RE: [Vo]:Seasonal variation of halflife: tritium test

2012-04-20 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
I don't know John Walker, but I posted his studies on editing the past previously. I didn't know he founded autodesk. There's a famous example supporting the concept of multiple pasts regarding Nelson Mandela. Some people have evidence and believe that he died in prison ( newspaper articles,

[Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

2012-04-20 Thread Michele Comitini
Hello vortex-l, Not to be seen before 2020. IBM speeds push for 500-mile EV battery - CNET News http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57417588-76/ibm-speeds-push-for-500-mile-ev-battery/ mic

[Vo]:Remote viewing conference

2012-04-20 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
These are always fun to attend: Our speaker line up is complete for the IRVA 2012 anniversary conference, and we are honored to announce Christopher (Kit) Green, MD, PhD, as our keynote speaker. Dr. Green is a former analyst at the CIA's Office of Scientific and Weapons Intelligence, and the CIA

Re: [Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

2012-04-20 Thread Akira Shirakawa
On 2012-04-20 23:42, Michele Comitini wrote: Not to be seen before 2020. IBM speeds push for 500-mile EV battery - CNET News http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-57417588-76/ibm-speeds-push-for-500-mile-ev-battery/ How much time will it take to recharge these batteries? With energy coming from

RE: [Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

2012-04-20 Thread Mark Goldes
See the Aqueous Fuel Cell invented in Vietnam for a solution. Someone posted it here a few months ago. Moving Beyond Oil and Cheap Green, on the Aesop Institute website, both contain a few details. The only fuel is fresh or salt water. A 2 kW home generator is moving toward the market, priced

[Vo]:Chad Schaffer pleads guilty in Mallove murder trial

2012-04-20 Thread Dr. Mitchell Swartz
*THE GOOD, THE BAD, and THE UGLY * April 20, 2012 At last, Chad Schaffer has pled guilty today to the brutal execution murder of our friend and colleague, Dr. Eugene Mallove. I spoke with Gene by telephone on his last day. We were in the middle of a cold fusion

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint
Hi Reliable, Thx for the feedback... I understand the suggestion and the link to an example... I have hundreds of peer-reviewed and other literature on noninvasive glucose, bioelectromagnetics, the effects of poor glucose control on a person's biology, etc... The history of noninvasive glucose

Re: [Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

2012-04-20 Thread Jed Rothwell
Akira Shirakawa shirakawa.ak...@gmail.com wrote: How much time will it take to recharge these batteries? That could be a problem. With energy coming from what energy sources? Conventional electricity. How are national power grids going to cope with the load of millions of EVs requiring

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Axil Axil
If you remember our discussions on degenerate electrons in the thread: *New physical attraction between ions in quantum plasmas* Centered around the paper http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.5556.pdf with the title: *Novel Attractive Force between Ions in Quantum Plasmas* Discussion: Electrons can

Re: [Vo]:Oxygen breathing battery.

2012-04-20 Thread mixent
In reply to Jed Rothwell's message of Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:52:54 -0400: Hi, This http://www.almaden.ibm.com/institute/2009/resources/2009/presentations/JeffDahn-AlmadenInstitute2009.pdf IBM paper compares some different battery technologies. On page 7 there are some graphs detailing the problem

RE: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
Excellent insight, Axil. From: Axil Axil If you remember our discussions on degenerate electrons in the thread: New physical attraction between ions in quantum plasmas Centered around the paper http://arxiv.org/pdf/1112.5556.pdf

Re: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread Harry Veeder
At any rate the Frank Znidarsic quantity of (frequency) X (length) is conceptually intriguing, because it does not exist within the established oeuvre of physical meaningful quantities. Harry On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: The Rydberg wavelength is a

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Daniel Rocha
There is nothing fundamentally new about this. A quasi particle is a state that scatters or propagate just as it were a particle, but in fact, it is just an interference pattern perturbation of the medium considered. In the article, they just made and electron disturb the media by isolating

Re: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread fznidarsic
No one said this but you, Jones said 200 tera hertz. Twenty terahertz is more like it. (20 exp +12 )( 50 x 10exp-9) = one million meters per second. That's right in the middle of 10 exp12 and 10exp13 right in the center IR band. How long has Jones been working for Stevek? As far as the

Re: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread fznidarsic
The constant means something. It is the frequency and geometry at which a proton conductor becomes dia-magnetic to the electromagnetic, gravitomagnetic,and nuclear spin orbit fields. It expels all of these fields. Using this condition I derived the energy levels of all atoms, the amplitude

RE: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
-Original Message- From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 5:54 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [Vo]:bass and jed At any rate the Frank Znidarsic quantity of (frequency) X (length) is conceptually intriguing, because it does not exist

[Vo]:Znidarsic's constant

2012-04-20 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.
Hi Frank, This is resent from last May (slightly edited): This profound article is the only paper I know of that explains what a magnetic field really is, and also contains a remarkable new look at dimensional analysis: The Dimensions of Motion I think a satisfying view of time is that the

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Axil Axil
There is a discussion that is underway in the field of superconductivity regarding the mechanism of cooper pair formation. The split of electron quantum properties has been hypothesized for some time now as its ultimate cause. How can to particles with the same charge pair up and stay together

RE: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread Jones Beene
Frank, Wow – you mean we can finally pin down a real-world prediction? Like what is the ideal particle size for nickel (a proton conductor) in pressurized hydrogen at its Curie temp (350 C)? Why does expelling other fields result in gain? From there we want to ask: would it be the same

Re: [Vo]:bass and jed

2012-04-20 Thread Axil Axil
Iron may show gain if the reactions ingestion temperature get over iron Currie point of about 750C. Just a guess… Regards: Axil On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Frank, ** ** Wow – you mean we can finally pin down a real-world prediction?

Re: [Vo]:Spinon + Orbiton = Electron

2012-04-20 Thread Eric Walker
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote: If chargon is a boson, it could support a condensate that enables a charge accumulation mechanism whereby the large negative electric charge localized is a small volume can remove the coulomb barrier to allow fusion to

Re: [Vo]:Znidarsic's constant

2012-04-20 Thread mixent
In reply to Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.'s message of Fri, 20 Apr 2012 19:09:27 -0700: Hi, [snip] Only three values are needed to perform all calculations: c, the Rydberg frequency, and Avagadro's number. Almost any three natural constants are enough to derive all the rest. This is well known in