Re: [Vo]:graphs of reaction and decay networks

2012-09-20 Thread Eric Walker
Thank you.  Excellent catch.

Eric


On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 10:44 PM, Axil Axil janap...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where are the tritium and the neutrons?

 This reaction has two branches that occur with nearly equal probability: D
 + D→ T+ 1H D + D→ 3He+ n Then 2
 1D + 3
 1T → 4
 2He + 1
 0n http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron  Cheers:Axil

 On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:50 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:

 Hi Eric,

  I made a quick calculation and believe that your balance adds up.  The
 net process is equal to the production of a He4 atom from two deuterons.
  Each deuteron releases 2.224 MeV to build from parts while a He4 atom
 releases 28.2933 MeV if constructed from basic parts.  So if  you start
 with the two deuterons and end with He4 you get 28.2933 - 2 * 2.224 =
 23.8453 MeV.  The total released by your two reactions is 23.8 MeV.  The
 numbers appear to correlate.

  Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 11:54 pm
 Subject: [Vo]:graphs of reaction and decay networks

  I've put together some graphs of exothermic proton and deuteron capture
 reaction networks for several materials together with associated decay
 chains.  See:

  https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzKtdce19-wySThpSnd3bUxJdDQ

  A PDF can be obtained by choosing Download from the File menu at
 the left.  If you see any details in error, let me know.  There is a
 fascinating pair of reactions that I haven't completely made sense of yet:

15N + D - 13C + A + 7.7 MeV
   13C + D - 15N + γ + 16.1 MeV

  At face value, it is a catalytic reaction that takes deuterium and
 yields helium-4.  But I'm not able to make sense of the energy balance.  it
 appears to be saying that if you take 15N and add deuterium, you'll get 13C
 and some energy, and if you take 13C and add deuterium, you'll get 15N and
 some energy.  I've probably messed up the calculation; if not, there's some
 magic going on there.

  Eric





Re: [Vo]:graphs of reaction and decay networks

2012-09-20 Thread Eric Walker
I wrote:

Thank you.  Excellent catch.


My mistake.  See page 4.  I'm finding it a little hard to translate in my
head from 2H and 3H to D and T, but they're at the bottom of the graph.
 The dark green lines mean X + D.

Eric


[Vo]:graphs of reaction and decay networks

2012-09-19 Thread Eric Walker
I've put together some graphs of exothermic proton and deuteron capture
reaction networks for several materials together with associated decay
chains.  See:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzKtdce19-wySThpSnd3bUxJdDQ

A PDF can be obtained by choosing Download from the File menu at the
left.  If you see any details in error, let me know.  There is a
fascinating pair of reactions that I haven't completely made sense of yet:

  15N + D - 13C + A + 7.7 MeV
  13C + D - 15N + γ + 16.1 MeV

At face value, it is a catalytic reaction that takes deuterium and yields
helium-4.  But I'm not able to make sense of the energy balance.  it
appears to be saying that if you take 15N and add deuterium, you'll get 13C
and some energy, and if you take 13C and add deuterium, you'll get 15N and
some energy.  I've probably messed up the calculation; if not, there's some
magic going on there.

Eric


Re: [Vo]:graphs of reaction and decay networks

2012-09-19 Thread David Roberson
Hi Eric,


I made a quick calculation and believe that your balance adds up.  The net 
process is equal to the production of a He4 atom from two deuterons.  Each 
deuteron releases 2.224 MeV to build from parts while a He4 atom releases 
28.2933 MeV if constructed from basic parts.  So if  you start with the two 
deuterons and end with He4 you get 28.2933 - 2 * 2.224 = 23.8453 MeV.  The 
total released by your two reactions is 23.8 MeV.  The numbers appear to 
correlate.


Dave



-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 11:54 pm
Subject: [Vo]:graphs of reaction and decay networks


I've put together some graphs of exothermic proton and deuteron capture 
reaction networks for several materials together with associated decay chains.  
See:


https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzKtdce19-wySThpSnd3bUxJdDQ


A PDF can be obtained by choosing Download from the File menu at the left.  
If you see any details in error, let me know.  There is a fascinating pair of 
reactions that I haven't completely made sense of yet:



  15N + D - 13C + A + 7.7 MeV
  13C + D - 15N + γ + 16.1 MeV



At face value, it is a catalytic reaction that takes deuterium and yields 
helium-4.  But I'm not able to make sense of the energy balance.  it appears to 
be saying that if you take 15N and add deuterium, you'll get 13C and some 
energy, and if you take 13C and add deuterium, you'll get 15N and some energy.  
I've probably messed up the calculation; if not, there's some magic going on 
there.


Eric


 


Re: [Vo]:graphs of reaction and decay networks

2012-09-19 Thread Axil Axil
Where are the tritium and the neutrons?

This reaction has two branches that occur with nearly equal probability:D +
D→ T+ 1HD + D→ 3He+ n Then 2
1D + 3
1T → 4
2He + 1
0n http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutron  Cheers:Axil

On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:50 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

 Hi Eric,

  I made a quick calculation and believe that your balance adds up.  The
 net process is equal to the production of a He4 atom from two deuterons.
  Each deuteron releases 2.224 MeV to build from parts while a He4 atom
 releases 28.2933 MeV if constructed from basic parts.  So if  you start
 with the two deuterons and end with He4 you get 28.2933 - 2 * 2.224 =
 23.8453 MeV.  The total released by your two reactions is 23.8 MeV.  The
 numbers appear to correlate.

  Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, Sep 19, 2012 11:54 pm
 Subject: [Vo]:graphs of reaction and decay networks

  I've put together some graphs of exothermic proton and deuteron capture
 reaction networks for several materials together with associated decay
 chains.  See:

  https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BzKtdce19-wySThpSnd3bUxJdDQ

  A PDF can be obtained by choosing Download from the File menu at the
 left.  If you see any details in error, let me know.  There is a
 fascinating pair of reactions that I haven't completely made sense of yet:

15N + D - 13C + A + 7.7 MeV
   13C + D - 15N + γ + 16.1 MeV

  At face value, it is a catalytic reaction that takes deuterium and
 yields helium-4.  But I'm not able to make sense of the energy balance.  it
 appears to be saying that if you take 15N and add deuterium, you'll get 13C
 and some energy, and if you take 13C and add deuterium, you'll get 15N and
 some energy.  I've probably messed up the calculation; if not, there's some
 magic going on there.

  Eric